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05-13-2017 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tikmassy
You not hedging with an Andrade KO? Possible Gnp, she got wrestling and possible tko standing too.
Not yet, I actually think if Andrade wins it'll be via a takedowns-based decision a lot. She could rock and finish Joanna early but if it doesn't happen in the first I don't think it will. I'm more worried about a Gadelha first 2 rounds style decision loss if she doesn't gas the way Gadelha did, I think Joanna's volume striking means she will eventually win the standup even if she loses the first round a lot

Sort of considering adding more on Edgar but haven't yet
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05-13-2017 , 09:32 PM
Great ****ing card so far!!! Best card all decade!
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05-13-2017 , 09:34 PM
She hits like a truck, think she might put her lights out then Gnp her, if not she's not winning a dec imo!
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05-13-2017 , 09:38 PM
Added another 3.5u Edgar making it my clear 2nd biggest bet of the card after Maia

Let's go Alvarez!
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05-13-2017 , 09:43 PM
Close round but I think Poirier nicked it
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05-13-2017 , 09:43 PM
Cashed out of my 5u Alvarez bet for about a 1u loss with a few seconds left in r1

10-9 Poirier, Eddie is still in this but Poirier won the first and stuffed the only desparation TD attempt easily

edit: like tikmassy said below, Eddie looking too tentative/stiff and not working the clinch/wrestling
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05-13-2017 , 09:43 PM
Eddy looking cautious and stiff!
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05-13-2017 , 09:45 PM
Hope I don't regret getting off Eddie, this is the gameplan he was supposed to use
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05-13-2017 , 09:47 PM
Wow, Eddie has a hell of a chin
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05-13-2017 , 09:49 PM
Cant believe Poirier doesnt finish him!
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05-13-2017 , 09:49 PM
Is that disqualification?
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05-13-2017 , 09:50 PM
Wow, looks like the DQ win is there for Poirier if he wants it

Crazy that a fight that may end due to an illegal knee

This new rules/old rules thing with downed opponent is stupid

lol @ im not telling you what the result will be but you're def done right to Poirier he's asking Poirier to gamble on it hope Poirier isn't badly hurt, sounds like he may have a serious eye injury

Should be a DQ win for Poirier shame it ended this way but what a great fight, the second round anyway

So glad I got off Alvarez assuming it's a DQ would be a tilting way to lose, or will be tilted if they **** it up and give him a TKO
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05-13-2017 , 09:53 PM
No contest is iffy, the second knee was a clear and deliberate knee to a downed opponent, there's no discincentive for fighters to not throw illegal strikes and get a NC if caught doing it since they sometimes get away with it and get a TKO win but are never DQ'd for a loss

I guess it's fair that Alvarez may not have known in real time but it was so blatant

Set up a rematch I guess. What a chin from Alvarez to survive that beating.

Between the Weidman/Mousasi debacle and this fight now i'm sick of great fights being ruined by controversy over the new/old grounded fighter rules

Also I guess I run bad cashing out for a small loss when it's going to be a push/NC? But Poirier was definitely getting the better of Alvarez until he sort of punched himself out/Alvarez rallied
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05-13-2017 , 09:54 PM
What's with the dumb reffing all the time, so many mistakes it's should be criminal!
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05-13-2017 , 09:55 PM
hmm on the replay it looks like where Eddie's head was he couldn't see Dustin was grounded so NC is actually correct in hindsight

Crowd is the absolute worst booing both of them after that amazing fight and turns out neither guy did anything wrong

Assuming Poirier's eye is ok set up a rematch for UFC 213 in Vegas imo

In hindsight I don't think the refereeing was a mistake, look at where Alvarez's head is, DQing him is fine due to how blatantly illegal the strike was, but the first two were closeish and the third one Alvarez's head was above Poirier's body so there was no way to see his knee/hand was down even though it super clearly was so I sort of understand them giving him the benefit of the doubt - either a DQ win for Poirier or a NC is fine I guess but they probably should go with the DQ in these situations just to discourage fighters from throwing questionable strikes because as I said before even if it would have been harsh on Eddie, at some point you need to DQ people, I mean Erick Silva got DQ'd vs Carlo Prater for something way less blatant a few years ago with the back of the head strikes
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05-13-2017 , 09:56 PM
Edyy got heart man! He was hurt big time but he got some super human powers and just stayed stood up!
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05-13-2017 , 09:56 PM
The fact that you can make a knee illegal by putting a hand down is stupid. So my knee is legal if your hand is an inch off the ground but illegal if it's touching. One of the silliest rules in mma
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05-13-2017 , 09:58 PM
With such stuff they should be allowed to watch replay back and make the right decision! this is just amateur BS imo.
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05-13-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
The fact that you can make a knee illegal by putting a hand down is stupid. So my knee is legal if your hand is an inch off the ground but illegal if it's touching. One of the silliest rules in mma
They shouldnt be able to take advantage of it the way Weidman did imo but a downed opponent is different and Poirier was down unlike Weidman, he just put his hand on the ground.

Agreed though rule needs to be looked at.
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05-13-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tikmassy
With such stuff they should be allowed to watch replay back and make the right decision! this is just amateur BS imo.
Agree with the replay part but the rule needs to go in general. It puts the person standing at an unfair disadvantage and does nothing to increase fighter safety. I hate it when a fighter randomly slaps at the ground fishing for a DQ.
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05-13-2017 , 10:01 PM
Reduced my Branch bet from 6u back to 3u taking a 0.15u hit because of the late steam on Jotko
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05-13-2017 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy64
The fact that you can make a knee illegal by putting a hand down is stupid. So my knee is legal if your hand is an inch off the ground but illegal if it's touching. One of the silliest rules in mma
I agree this rule is utterly ridiculous, like in real time the Weidman knee looked 100% illegal but on replay it was just barely legal but it would have been a premature stoppage anyway even if it was legal, no way the ref stops the fight right there if the knee is legal, so ruling it a TKO is absurd but you can't make it a DQ either - as it went you have to go with a NC but it ruined the fight and disadvantages either Weidman not giving him a chance to recover if you go with a TKO win due to the replay or Mousasi having a chance to finish the fight off a legal strike if you NC or restart the fight after giving Weidman a chance to rest

They need to fix it either way we've lost two great fights this month due to the weird ambiguous situations that arise due to it now - and if you're going to award a TKO when its marginal but legal and a NC when it's marginal but illegal, why would a fighter not knee their opponent in the head if they're uncertain, it either needs to always be a TKO win or DQ loss, or always be a NC when it's ambiguous in real time but the replay makes it clear the strike was legal/illegal
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05-13-2017 , 10:07 PM
Jotko v Branch finish ITD. Think Jotko will finish but have hedged on Branch too.
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05-13-2017 , 10:08 PM
Great post fight interviews by both guys. Does anyone consider just how messed up Alvarez's head might have been when he was throwing the knees? 30 seconds earlier he was concussed.

Great form by Porier and great heart by Alvarez to get himself back in the fight.
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05-13-2017 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tikmassy
They shouldnt be able to take advantage of it the way Weidman did imo but a downed opponent is different and Poirier was down unlike Weidman, he just put his hand on the ground.

Agreed though rule needs to be looked at.
I was speaking in more general terns
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