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04-09-2017 , 12:16 AM
Still dont understand how they can penalise Weidman for that?
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04-09-2017 , 12:18 AM
Well ending the fight when Weidman wasn't knocked out and has one round in the bank was certainly more unfair to Weidman than continuing the fight would have been to Mousasi, the knees still count towards his points for round 2 and the damage was done especially when the situation was so close I mean the second knee his fingertips may have grazed the mat even it was so close

Anything other than restarting the fight in the same position is just a bad call (Mousasi holding Weidman with Weidman's hands on the mat)
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04-09-2017 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperMario7
Still dont understand how they can penalise Weidman for that?
They made a mistake and ****ed up is how. How the **** can a fighter be penalised for following the ref's instructions, and it clearly wasn't a situation that warranted a TKO stoppage, Weidman was still fighting/defending

I doubt they'll overturn it, I hope they do even if my bets still lose, at the end of the day they have to rematch and the rematch will go a similar way with Weidman controlling until he runs out of cardio if he does, and if he doesn't he'll win easily and if he gasses Mousasi will take over late

Flatten him Rumble, I don't deserve to have a losing card because of terrible refereeing (or if DC wins make it r3/4 plz)
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04-09-2017 , 12:22 AM
Why isn't Rumble disengaging to strike, so weird

lol fight iq
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04-09-2017 , 12:23 AM
No heart from Weidman, the second he was told it was a legal strike he should have been saying okay lets fight. Instead he was so smashed up he kept trying to milk the situation to recover.

Whole situation was screwy and they should have either a) restarted immediately, or b) given Weidman the full 5 minutes as the ref made the decision to pause the fight as it was too close to call.

Either way the fight should have continued. But Weidman played the whole situation wrong and his brain was scrambled.

Even without the knees Weidman was done and Mousasi was going to unload on him. A hearty laugh at anyone that considered Weidman the Lock of the Week. Don't be underestimating beasts.
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04-09-2017 , 12:24 AM
WHY ARE YOU CLINCHING YOU MORON YOU JUST ROCKED HIM

lol he has some serious ****** level fight IQ today
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04-09-2017 , 12:25 AM
10-9 Rumble I guess due to damage even though DC controlled most of the round?
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04-09-2017 , 12:26 AM
This has got to be the dumbest thing Johnson can do!
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04-09-2017 , 12:26 AM
Is this seriously Rumble's game plan?
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04-09-2017 , 12:28 AM
Come on Rumble survive then I have the next two round for DC to finish or Rumble for the TKO still

Rumble has some serious Erick Silva level fight IQ so far
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04-09-2017 , 12:30 AM
Ew, so gross. Big losing card for me now bricking it all on the main, I was originally going to take DC in r2/3/4 and then only took 3 and 4 and the Rumble spots.

Kinda sucks to go 3-3 for the card and make a big loss due to losing the two big ones, but oh well.
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04-09-2017 , 12:31 AM
Fraud exposed.
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04-09-2017 , 12:33 AM
why the **** didnt rumble just go to his back
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04-09-2017 , 12:35 AM
Smh at Rumble playing DC's game.
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04-09-2017 , 12:38 AM
Did Rumble take a dive?
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04-09-2017 , 12:38 AM
Rumble is a big man with a tiny tiny heart and apparently a tiny brain as well, what a baffling gameplan
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04-09-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
Did Rumble take a dive?
If you're going to throw a fight in a non obvious to the casual observer way this is how (although he'd have had to deliberately miss the follow up head kick and make sure not to hit him too hard with the first one if thats the case so its fairly unlikely)

More likely he went full ******, but it's still probably in the top 10 most likely to be fixed fights of the past few yrs
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04-09-2017 , 12:42 AM
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but it's still probably in the top 10 most likely to be fixed fights of the past few yrs
Lol no.
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04-09-2017 , 12:45 AM
A big big heart you mean right? hope AJ does whatever makes him happy, I think he finally made enough money in his last few fights and hope he is decently set up financially to walk away.
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04-09-2017 , 12:48 AM
Indeed, sorry Swoop but lol no way that fight was fixed or in top 10 of most likley fixed fights.

We just saw a lack of determination and mental toughness from AJ, combined with him knowing he is stopping made that even worse. We just saw a replay of the first fight IMO.
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04-09-2017 , 12:52 AM
Oh I don't think it was fixed as in he got paid off or anything.

I think he literally just didn't care if he won or lost because he was leaving UFC either way and wanted to get out of there asap since he was done fighting.

Figured if he can get a KO he'll take it but otherwise didn't care.
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04-09-2017 , 01:12 AM
if the weidman fight is called a no contest or dq im up 5k kill me now
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04-09-2017 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
No heart from Weidman, the second he was told it was a legal strike he should have been saying okay lets fight. Instead he was so smashed up he kept trying to milk the situation to recover.

Whole situation was screwy and they should have either a) restarted immediately, or b) given Weidman the full 5 minutes as the ref made the decision to pause the fight as it was too close to call.

Either way the fight should have continued. But Weidman played the whole situation wrong and his brain was scrambled.

Even without the knees Weidman was done and Mousasi was going to unload on him. A hearty laugh at anyone that considered Weidman the Lock of the Week. Don't be underestimating beasts.
100% agree, well said.

I think Weidman was thinking/hoping the knees where illegal and gave an unjust impression to the doctor that he was severely injured or damaged by the ''illegal'' strikes. He knew the momentum was changing and he was extremely tired from the takedowns and takedown attempts.

Going in to round 2, Dominick Cruz said Weidman looked gassed and might not be able to continue to take down Mousasi. On the feet it was clear Mousasi had the advantage, also Mousasi was fighting aggressive coming forward at a high pace looking for the finish. Yes he was taken down a few times, but Weidman had to work hard for it, and Weidman did not do any damage on the ground and was not able to keep him down.

Best would be indeed if they just continued the fight, but this was the second most fair outcome IMO. Again I think Weidman kind of screwed himself a bit. In his conversation with the doctor, I heard him saying '' but now I'm going to lose the fight'' something along those lines, I will have to re-watch to get a better impression. But overall it was pretty obvious that Weidman rather did not continue IF the knees where Illegal, but once he heard they where legal and he finally wanted to continue, it might have been a little to late for the doctor who already made up his mind.

I think Mousasi handled it great, apologizing and being sensitive to frustration of Weidman and the crowd by not celebrating the win, telling his corner to keep it down, and also immediately offering Weidman the rematch.
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04-09-2017 , 01:33 AM
Mousasi probably will be like -140 to -150ish in the rematch

agree Weidman looked gassed and while the TD's were consistent, he wasn't doing anything with them.
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04-09-2017 , 01:38 AM
bet of the century lol
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