Duly noted. Brb, betting house on mcgreggor

I will. I am a super ultra lightweight and the only bets I've booked were Diaz and Tate separately and as a parlay last time. Other than that I lose friendly bets to my coworker about 90% of the time.

I know Nate isn't well spoken, but imagine if he was of Conors caliber, he could have destroyed Conor orally. He has so much ammunition it's crazy, he could bring up 10 days notice, how his hearts is bigger than Conors (he didn't give up when he was down), how he let him of easy last time sinking in that rnc, when he could have rained down punches from the mount. Also I get it's not his style, and Nate has actually grown on me quite a bit with how honest he is, that it's not definite he's going to win and that anything can happen in a fight, all he can promise is he will be there til the very end.

Ever since puppydog Nate stepped up on Karo Parisyan on the ultimate fighter he has been one of my favorites. He keeps it real to the point it is not a cliche. I like that he is vegan and never talks about it. As abrasive as he is it is all lack of etiquette that is pure bs anyway. His heart seems pure.

Definately the coolest vegan on the planet and like you said Johnny he isn't like what seems like 99% of vegans who never stfu about it. Feel people are underestimating conor and over hyping Nate, it's a complete reversal on public opinion since the last bout. It's too close to call imo and look forward to how you guys will bet on it.

I think Conor has a chance for sure. He is smart and talented and driven. I just have my doubts about his gas tank, especially compared to Diaz, and also doubt his ability to end it early. If he is going to be more efficient with his energy Diaz will for sure test his patience. To me that is where it is won or lost. Can he stay cool and not blow his wad this time? If so he can win a decision which sets up the trilogy with the hyped up narrative of finish vs point fighter which they both want anyway.

Still I like Diaz round 4.

Nate has been finished like once by KO

Let's be real here, CM is NOT submitting Nate

Advantages for Nate : way way way better cardio , longer reach , better grappling , superb boxing.

Advantages for Conor : ???

I really can't justify betting anything on Conor. The only thing serious that concerns me would be Nate throwing a match for a trilogy which means he retires super rich. But Nate is as real as they come. The dude likes to scrap. Can't see him throwing a fight....

So I say Diaz is a 90% fav in my eyes....

I agree mostly. I'd put it at 70% or so. I think Conor actually can outbox Nate when they are both fresh, so if he stays calm and collected and if he worked on his cardio enough to matter he could take three rounds by points and stay on his bike for two. That's the only path I see to victory here for him and it has to come together perfectly. It has happened to both Diaz brothers enough in the past to prove it is possible though.

Conor won 3/5 of round 1

Towards the end he was getting hit

By the 2nd he was getting picked apart

And keep in mind this is Diaz with no camp

I say bet the house on Diaz lol

Don't get me wrong I agree Diaz is a clear favourite and style wise he's a bad match up for conor. However this full camp thing also means Diaz is doing mcgregor levels of media which is mentally draining which could effect one physically. Diaz is hot property right now and all that I'm saying is most people are making him out to be unbeatable, which looking at his record is not the case.

He's gotten beat by LW and WW opponents. Conor is a LW who fights in featherweight because it's a huge advantage for him.

Conor's advantage is hitting smaller opponents. KOs is his forte. Nate doesn't get KOd. All of Conor's losses have been from submissions. Nate is a submission King.

The thing is people are so wrapped up by Conor from his hype train, it affects people's judgement to critique him accurately. Just like Ronda Rousey.

It was only a matter of time until she is exposed.

I think a Aldo rematch Conor loses. Tbh, I don't think CM ever goes back if he loses to Nate. That weight cut is too much.

Regardless, CM is a good fighter of course. But he is not well rounded.

Nate via submission round 3.

If Conor wins this his only shot is from KO. And I just don't see it happening. But you never know, obviously anyone can get that one punch.

Can't wait!!!

Agree 100% but Diaz is a slow starter and if Conor slows his roll he can stretch that 3 minutes out quite a bit and not punch himself out. He was gassed which is why he got picked apart. I don't know if he will be able to pace himself better and not gas or not, but Diaz often has won the last rounds in fights that he lost. Can Conor win the first three rounds is the question I am not 100% sure of.

I'm still betting on Diaz.

He punched himself out because that's his only shot with a larger target.
Diaz is harder to hit. And he dodges pretty well.


I wish I wasn't such a girl and I could bet my net worth on Diaz lol but knowing my luck he'll get tagged like Aldo

Im unsure also whether he will fight again at FW, if he loses to Diaz options are few and far between so he most likely will have that rematch with Aldo. Diaz is a WW who fights at lightweight so people who jibe mcgregor with that must understand that almost everyone cuts to a weight class lower than maybe they should. In fact there are a number of FW taller than conor.

I know Diaz has a huge advantage on the mat but he's not got great wrestling and tbh never looks to take it to the floor. So if mcgregor doesn't gas there is a reasonable chance it stays standing imo. I know the cardio issue is something that every one talks about and rightly so but if conor takes a more calculated approach he may be able to hang in there. Now whether five or whatever many months it is will be enough to improve cardio levels is another thing. But it should be epic what ever way it plays out.

I don't think people are effected to accurately critique conor due the hype train. Everyone has questioned his bjj and his ability to defend the takedown against top wrestlers. Unlike ronda where people thought she could stand and bang with the best of them.

Like I said for me I fancy Nate but unlike you I wouldn't be confident betting the house on it.

Conor isn't as overhyped as Ronda, he's not the greatest all around fighter, no one's said that. But he actually posses really good offensive and varied striking. He also has better ground game than Ronda has boxing. His sweep on nate was pretty nice and he has good ground and pound, like he gameplanned vs Max Holloway.

For me it's pretty much a toss, it's who can implement his game. Nate pretty much wants the same fight, get it gritty, high pace exchanges etc. Conor will prolly try to pace himself and outpoint Nate on the feet, being more cautious of Nate's range, drag it out a bit, work in burst rather than one long segment of going at it. But execution is a different story than theory and Nate might just get his way or Conor manages to avoid those boxing range exchanges.

Bookmaker finally cancelled my over-sized 8.75 unit Conor McGregor vs Frankie Edgar future bet. Was thinking about putting it all on Nate against Conor at +money, but the more I read people's opinions the more worried I am about Conor somehow pulling off a victory.

Yeah some people's hate on Conor has gone way too far IMO.

Did he lose the first fight? Yes, obviously he did. Should he be the favourite in the rematch? Probably not. But is Nate Diaz unbeatable? Obviously not, unless you don't know what the 10 in his 19-10 record means...

For all those people going on about how Diaz is a lock to win this fight and there's no way Conor can beat him, please, go back and watch Diaz-Dos Anjos. Remind yourself how terrible he looked once Dos Anjos kicked the hell out of his lead leg, and try to tell yourself Conor couldn't do the same thing.

He has paths to victory in this fight, telling yourself otherwise (or, indeed, betting on ANYTHING in MMA as though it's a certainty) is crazy.

I actually lean towards Conor in the rematch, ill take him at evens or close to it but not quite at -135. Will wait and see which way it moves I guess.

I rewatched the Dos Anjos fight and to me it looks like what cost Nate the fight was taking a beating while on his back. Standing up they were trading blows and I'd give the edge to Dos Anjos, and I agree the leg kicks did play a factor. Nate was checking them, but he did have to fight orthodox occasionally. If you only look at the both of them standing up, it wasn't that bad for Nate.

Conor can't do the same thing

There I said it lol

Conor doesn't have the kicks like dos anjos. Conor is a left hand machine


You mention Diaz record.... But he has been stopped 2 times in 30 pro fights. The odds on him going down are pretty low and CM won't beat him on the ground

I heard Diaz had injured a rib so badly that he couldn't do any hard running in camp and that's why he missed weight. Diaz was so injured that he couldn't even run, still managed to go 3 rounds with Dos Anjos. That's the reason why I bet $200 on him at +380 against Johnson, it remains to date my single biggest win. I bet $300 at +110 about a month ago for the upcoming fight. I wish I had bet the first Connor fight when he was at +360.

He did look a little funny when it seemed like he stumbled or somehow lost his balance a couple times. How much are you going to bet on him for his upcoming fight?

$300 is my max single wager for an MMA fight, so I am maxed out.

Sure Conor can win i just think he wins less then 50% of the time so i like Nate as a dog.

He likes to load up with the left hand for sure but to say he has no kicks in his arsenal is plain wrong. Go back to the mendes fight where he thrown excellent front kicks to the body which weren't teep like as they had a whip to them.

In the first fight conor decided to set up his punches with a lead stomp style kick Jon jones like which was somewhat successful in allowing him to close distance and also disrupt Nate's rhythm. However mcgregor was lunging with his shots and missing quite often which caused him to gas. This fight though conor is intelligent enough to use kicks both to the lead leg and body to disrupt Nate imo.