I don't like him cuz by all accounts he appears to be a piece of ****. Fake, full of himself, a chronic liar, nearly killed a pregnant woman...yeah sure you never did cocaine Jon, cool story bro. He's also a poor sport and a bad representative for MMA/UFC.

I've never been a fan of Cormeir but I'll be rooting for him just because I would prefer not to have JBJ as champ even though he is likely to win. JBJ with a loss is more a interesting fighter and story...much like Ronda.

Also is kind of weird to me to see him talk to little kids about how much he loves fighting lol. Recess was prob interesting after that.

JBJ had his 1 loss and won't have another anytime soon. He's the baddest man on the planet in my books and I'd like to see him move up to HW.

i think its quite conceivable that jones gets flash ko'd by rumble especially with how rumble obliterated mauler i also think it's conceivable bader point fights him and steals the title in fact before bader got screwed out of the dc title fight i in fact predicted a bader title win in 2016

at hw i think jones loses to cain but is never worse than a pick em against the rest of the field but i think i say the same for rumble and dc so that's more indicative of how bad heavyweight is right now

I agree that rumble could catch him, but it would have to be quick.

Bader, I just don't see it.

I think jones could very possibly clear out the heavyweight division. Have you seen his Instagram lifting posts? He is beasting recently. The way he fought after half assing his camps and training, if he focuses who the hell could stop him?

again cleaning out heavyweight isn't exactly impressive anymore now if mir arlovski jds overeem were in prime more impressive but they aren't heck i wouldn't be shocked if someone like weidman could make it easily into top 5 at heavyweight

HW is not deep as it has been before, but it's still impressive to think that he can likely beat anyone in the ufc at any weight class. Certainly more impressive than topping the women's bantam weight division, and that made rousey the most impressive human in the history of the world for a good year or so.

You don't think weidman could clean out lhw, right?

i think him vs jones would be very interesting

if all things were equal i would pick mighty mouse over jones for now

Sure Rumble could get a fluke victory against anyone but the dude doesn't have the heart of a champion and I hope he never wins a belt (don't expect him to either, but obviously he could).

I think Jones handles Cain as well. Don't get me wrong, Cain is a very good fighter but Jones is on a completely different level, IMO. Obviously he would need to put on weight but given his frame I don't think that would be a problem at all. Werdum would present the most difficult puzzle, IMO.

When you have the ability to consistently knock people out like AJ, its not a fluke. He finishes people other have not been able to. Not saying he would be a favorite to beat jones, but it would depend on jones ability to not get hit, at least in the beginning of the fight, not a "fluke" punch by AJ.

Jones looks enormous lately. He has been hitting the weights like crazy. I think he easily fights at heavyweight without issue as well.

How does anyone think that a Jones move to HW wasn't inevitable?

He's 6'4" and the heavyweight champion of the world will always be king. His head is on straight. Look at the ****ing guy; that **** takes real work.

he also see's who his likely future contenders are(bader osp glover) and see's that the buys for those fights just isnt there

He'll always get challengers, Gustafsson 2 will always sell once Gus gets 2-3 wins over top 10 guys, Cormier 2 will sell obviously but yeah if he thinks he can win, Werdum/Cain superfights become tempting and im sure Weidman would be if Weidman cleans out MW and wants a shot at 205 as well - Weidman is probably 3 title defenses from cleaning out the division (Jacare, Romero, Rockhold) and then maybe someone else who deserves a shot by then

i dont think he cleans it out that quick id assume whittaker gets a shot i think brunson could creep into it vitor will also get 1 final shot and i think 1 of samman/theodorou gets a shot likely going through each other and then it becomes a move up situation

FWIW if Rousey (or, hell, Anderson Silva going back a ways) has proven anything it's that you don't necessarily need a good / intelligent / compelling matchup to sell a lot of PPVs. You just need a star, or some other angle.

There's still Rumble at 205, plus the inevitable rematch with Gus (which Jones wins easier than the first fight IMO), obv he needs to get through Cormier and actually get the belt back first too. That's at least three matches before you even worry about the second tier of guys like Bader or OSP (who I don't think is ever likely to make it into title contention) or whoever else has worked their way into contention by then.

Other thing I guess is are the matchups at heavyweight really that much more marketable for him? Jones v Cain or Jones v Werdum / whoever is champion at the time, that's big news, sure. But the heavyweight talent pool is even more shallow than LHW, with the added detraction that most of them can't go more than a round and a half without gassing out either.

+1

People saying he came across egotistical, selfish thinking only about himself, would have been the same people screaming ''Fake'' when he would show more remorse and talked about how he genuine was worried that he might have hurt someone etc. I prefer this version, more real indeed.

I espcially liked he part when he talked about the UFC and that they bend him over a few times before, and that he preferred dealing with Lorenzo over Dana and that he still might take legal steps against the Nevada commission.

Nope. Some of the people would have believed he actually could be sorry for more than the consequences to his career. Loads of people pull off humility because, well lots of people have it. It's not that I wanted him to pretend he cared about anything other than how great he is and how getting caught was inconvenient for him, it's that I wanted him to actually care about that a bit.

well judging JJ by his words and what he normally says in interviews, one would think he is a great caring and loving christian. I don't think he came across as someone without humility or someone who did not care. Its mostly his actions and the mistakes he made that people judged him on, and how completely different (fake) that was then what he portrayed to be.

Given the fact that the little bit of humility and remorse he showed in this interview, already caused plenty of people calling BS and saying that its all fake. Im sure if he showed it more like you wanted the negative response would have been bigger.

You already claiming he does not have any humility and he does not care. I personally would not care what he would have said, since it would have just been the same meaningless words like before, it might have been enough to convince you, but most people wouldn't buy into it.

I get your point, I just don't agree. There are more than the two choices of being an ******* and pretending you are not one or being an ******* and being honest about it. There is also a choice to be less of an *******, TRY to be less of an *******, or at least introspective enough to be aware that you are one. I just can't get excited for *******s to be successful.

jones vs gus 1 did just 310k
jones vs texiera did 350k
jones vs cormier did 800k

the hw sell on name value alone

Let's be honest though, the public brawl, obvious hatred and the endless trash talking between the two of them did more than its fair share of selling the Jones-Cormier fight. It wasn't just sold on the basis that Cormier was a former heavyweight.

I'd argue that heavyweights like Cain and JDS sell on name value as headliners (though Cain's last three fights have all been down in the 300k buys range). Go to the second teir of guys though and you get results like Werdum-Hunt, which only did about 185k.

This is a tough card to cap. My fave bets right now are Casey and Hendo/Mas. over. I think Hendo dec. at even money is decent too.

Most of the fights are mid-level guys that could go either way.

Feel like adding more on Casey with the line moving in my favour. After seeing the weigh ins she looks a lot bigger and stronger then Ham, suppose fighting in your opponents hometown is a factor but still feel like she should be -300 here though.

i think its just that werdum isnt a draw and really its because prior to the title win he was rarely mentioned by ufc brass

What the **** is going on with the Tae Hyun Bang line, fixed fight or some other ridiculousness like a major injury?

Have a small bet on him, kinda want to email the bookies and ask if they're gonna take down the line because I want the hell off it with that type of move

edit: have tweeted at Pinny and bookmaker.eu asking if they're going to take the line down or not

The last time I saw line movement like this it was a major match fixing scandal in Korean esports, so...

Anyone chime in on this? I almost bet when line got close to evens earlier today