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06-10-2015 , 10:32 PM
-105 available if you are thinking of putting more
http://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/j...cgregor/winner

gl grumpy
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06-10-2015 , 11:21 PM
Pinny discouraging bets on conor and encouraging aldo bets w their line vs other online books makes me want to be on conor. My brain says aldo but i just have this weird feeling conor is going to beat him

Also i love gastelum but is anyone else tempted by nate +376 i cap it more like -300 for kelvin than the 400 the line suggests
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06-11-2015 , 02:57 AM
nate historically loses to guys like gastelum id hedge potential on marquardt by ko but even that is iffy
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06-11-2015 , 05:02 AM
Oh Gastelum will beat Nate to a pulp. No doubt about it. Nate is a very good all around fighter, but he has to have an advantage somewhere to be able to beat the other fighters (he hasn't beat a top 10 in the last 3 years).

Gastelums TDD is high level, his cardio is among the best, his boxing has gotten a lot better, his speed / athletisim is better than Nates. Considering how Gastelum looked against Woodley despite looking like **** at the weigh ins and struggling with the weight, says a lot.
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06-11-2015 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
Oh Gastelum will beat Nate to a pulp. No doubt about it. Nate is a very good all around fighter, but he has to have an advantage somewhere to be able to beat the other fighters (he hasn't beat a top 10 in the last 3 years).

Gastelums TDD is high level, his cardio is among the best, his boxing has gotten a lot better, his speed / athletisim is better than Nates. Considering how Gastelum looked against Woodley despite looking like **** at the weigh ins and struggling with the weight, says a lot.
the only concern is his size and the fact nate has a 3 inch reach advantage and 4 inches on gastelum and is a relatively competent range striker which could lead to a snorefest of a fight
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06-11-2015 , 07:18 AM
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the only concern is his size and the fact nate has a 3 inch reach advantage and 4 inches on gastelum and is a relatively competent range striker which could lead to a snorefest of a fight
Yeah, but Gastelum moves well and is an active fighter not content standing on the outside. Only way Gastelum loses (except for the lucky KO) is if he has another real bad weight cut and Marquadt just out-works him when Gastelum gasses.
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06-11-2015 , 02:18 PM
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Yeah, but Gastelum moves well and is an active fighter not content standing on the outside. Only way Gastelum loses (except for the lucky KO) is if he has another real bad weight cut and Marquadt just out-works him when Gastelum gasses.
hard to have a bad weight cut moving up a weight
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06-11-2015 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
Yeah, but Gastelum moves well and is an active fighter not content standing on the outside. Only way Gastelum loses (except for the lucky KO) is if he has another real bad weight cut and Marquadt just out-works him when Gastelum gasses.
If that potato of a man misses weight at 185 he should be left in Mexico.

This fight is a punishment for missing weight at 170. Win or lose he has to go back to 170 as he has no chance in hell at 185. Just visualizing him in the cage with Romero, Rockhold, Weidman is disturbing.

He should make 155 with no problem considering his age and body type.
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06-11-2015 , 06:04 PM
Kelvin Gastelum, nate @ -133 ITD is a good bet man, Gastelum is a tank and he is a natural fighter, fluid with decent head movement and awareness he also sets up his attacks nicely and does not panic or rush he is methodical, it is a big ask for nate to stop him, if he does it will be by some unusal sub after nate pussys out on the feet.

nate is over, every time he enters the ring he loses, Kelvin Gastelum beats him 9 times out of ten, a lot of the towards the end of the 1st or the 2nd.

guy is no joke that's for sure, a powerhouse, the way he flipped the suplex on jake elienberger was impressive

gat is a natural fighter with no big mistakes just strong pressure, he is very strong indeed, nate wont be able to handle his strength.

nate is over imo, the worse thing for ufc would be for him to win.

http://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/k...o-the-distance

lock in a half unit at -133 imo itd

Edit: Also Nate does not have the abiity to control Gat, he will have to fess up and conflict with him brutally or get ended himself and early he will gas against this guy because he is such a powerful guy,

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06-12-2015 , 07:26 PM
Marquardt itd +560 1units
Cain tko/ko -110 2units
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06-12-2015 , 10:10 PM
Square parlay for degen AXS TV action tonight:

CES 29 Risk $40.00

Matt Bessette (-215) + Chuck O’Neil (-230) $40.00 for $44.08
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06-13-2015 , 02:39 AM

UFC 188: Official Weigh-In





















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06-13-2015 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by theporkchop
hard to have a bad weight cut moving up a weight
Yes. Although the feat has been accomplished.

Spoiler:
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06-13-2015 , 09:34 AM
06-13-2015 , 01:37 PM
Was going to place bet relatively big on Cain TKO, where is this -110 I see other people betting? Bovada has it at -160 fml. And Pinnacle doesn't have props?
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06-13-2015 , 01:51 PM
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Was going to place bet relatively big on Cain TKO, where is this -110 I see other people betting? Bovada has it at -160 fml. And Pinnacle doesn't have props?
Line movement- you missed that four days ago on 5Dimes. Best you can do today is -140 or -150 on 5Dimes or Boookmaker.
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06-13-2015 , 02:18 PM
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BIG EZ

Akhmedov 2.4u
Jordan 2.2u
Medeiros 1.8u
Tavares 1.8u
Rivera 1.6u

Going to bet Medeiros anyway.
1u upswing

2015 total : -29u
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06-13-2015 , 02:22 PM
Mehiko

Alvarez 1.2u
Dober 1u

Could not find much to bet on
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06-13-2015 , 02:54 PM
My pre-fight action- surely will have several live plays depending on how the fights go:

UFC 188 Risk $1573.46

Cain Velasquez/Fabricio Werdum won't go 5 round distance (-195) $195.00 for $100.00
Cain Velasquez wins by KO/TKO (-110) $55.00 for $50.00
Fabricio Werdum wins by submission (+1050) $25.00 for $262.50
Eddie Alvarez (+155) vs Gilbert Melendez $100.00 for $155.00
Eddie Alvarez wins by 3 round decision (+285) $25.00 for $71.25
Eddie Alvarez/Gilbert Melendez Over 2½ (-220) $220.00 for $100.00
Kelvin Gastelum wins by TKO/KO (+210) vs Nate Marquardt $25.00 for $52.50
Yair Rodriguez +3½ points (-115) vs Charles Rosa $46.00 for $40.00
Angela Hill +3½ points (-120) vs Tecia Torres $48.00 for $40.00
Angela Hill wins by 3 round decision (+415) $25.00 for $103.75

Henry Cejudo wins in round 3 (+1050) vs Chico Camus $10.00 for $105.00
Efrain Escudero (+130) vs Drew Dober $50.00 for $65.00
Efrain Escudero wins by 3 round decision (+251) $20.00 for $50.20
Patrick Williams (+150) vs Alejandro Perez $40.00 for $60.00
Johnny Case wins by submission (+434) vs Francisco Trevino $25.00 for $108.50

Cathal Pendred +3½ points (-125) vs Augusto Montano $50.00 for $40.00
Cathal Pendred wins by submission (+700) $10.00 for $70.00
Not Augusto Montano inside distance (-130) $65.00 for $50.00
Gabriel Benitez (+235) vs Clay Collard $25.00 for $58.75

Fights to end in KO/TKO over 3½ (+125) $25.00 for $31.25
Fights to end in KO/TKO over 4½ (+358) $20.00 for $71.60
Fights to end in KO/TKO over 5½(+1069) $10.00 for $106.90
Fights to end in KO/TKO over 6½ (+3375) $4.00 for $135.00
Fights to end in KO/TKO over 7½ (+16500) $1.00 for $165.00

Kelvin Gastelum wins Fastest SUB (+1400) $10.00 for $140.00
Johnny Case wins Fastest KO (+750) $10.00 for $75.00
Eddie Alvarez/Gilbert Melendez FOTN award winner (+300) $15.00 for $45.00

Parlays:
Eddie Alvarez/Gilbert Melendez Over 2½ (-220) + Cain Velasquez/Fabricio Werdum Under 2½ (+115) $50.00 for $106.36
Henry Cejudo (-975) + Kelvin Gastelum (-455) + Cain Velasquez (-500) $162.90 for $100.00
Henry Cejudo (-975) + Tecia Torres/Angela Hill Over 2½ (-215) + Cain Velasquez (-500) $106.56 for $100.00
Albert Tumenov (-415) + Henry Cejudo (-950) + Tecia Torres (-300) + Kelvin Gastelum (-400) $100.00 for $128.60
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06-13-2015 , 04:01 PM
I bet that Cain Werdum doesnt last 1 minute lol. Can't see Werdum surviving too long today.
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06-13-2015 , 04:07 PM
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I bet that Cain Werdum doesnt last 1 minute lol. Can't see Werdum surviving too long today.
I don't have that prop available at my books, and I don't really like it in this particular fight very much. However, I would like it from time to time on certain fights.
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06-13-2015 , 05:11 PM
Kimbo is -300 on 5dimes. Seems absurd when he's drawing dead the second it hits the ground. Apparently he opened -405
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06-13-2015 , 05:23 PM
Shamrock is way more battle worn than Slice though.
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06-13-2015 , 06:23 PM
is kimbo slice fighting?
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06-13-2015 , 06:30 PM
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is kimbo slice fighting?
Yes, vs Ken Shamrock in like a week or so.
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