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04-23-2015 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mossified84
sounds good bookd u have brown i have means ur 225 to my 150
Booked gl. U going to 189 live? We may be able to settle up in person if we both go and neither of us are in day 4 of wsopme, ill be going live if im not still in wsopme
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04-23-2015 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Booked gl. U going to 189 live? We may be able to settle up in person if we both go and neither of us are in day 4 of wsopme, ill be going live if im not still in wsopme
not sure yet, i would really like to but just depends how things go all summer as i might end up back in mexico by then, but ill b in vegas for 5-6 weeks if u wanna grab a drink or smoke one
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04-23-2015 , 08:09 PM
Ben Askren is fighting tomorrow (April 24) against Luis Santos (61–9–1). The lines are up:

https://www.bestfightodds.com/events...-champions-921

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Luis-Santos-16216
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04-23-2015 , 11:42 PM
Worth fading jackson?

He had the fight cancelled and wouldn't be surprising if that ruined his camp, all the distractions mean I doubt he is really anywhere near -290 here
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04-23-2015 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by elliot10181
Worth fading jackson?

He had the fight cancelled and wouldn't be surprising if that ruined his camp, all the distractions mean I doubt he is really anywhere near -290 here
I think it might be. Obv. a r1 ko is possible for Jackson as Maldanado is quite hittable (does have a good chin though) but if the fight goes the decision which it should if it leaves r1 then I see Jackson losing r3 for sure as Maldanado always picks it up at the end. R2 will be the decider on how soon Jacksons gas tank empties.

Leaning Maldanado for sure at the line.
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04-24-2015 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by anteatereater
Ben Askren is fighting tomorrow (April 24) against Luis Santos (61–9–1). The lines are up:

https://www.bestfightodds.com/events...-champions-921

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Luis-Santos-16216
He wins this one and there's no way Uncle Dana can deny him a crack at a top 40 opponent on the fight pass prelims.
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04-24-2015 , 01:25 AM
Horiguchi at +650.

You want to tell me that there isn't value here on him landing a lucky punch on Mighty Mouse?
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04-24-2015 , 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mossified84
not sure yet, i would really like to but just depends how things go all summer as i might end up back in mexico by then, but ill b in vegas for 5-6 weeks if u wanna grab a drink or smoke one
Ya cool i'm one of the only poker players I know who doesn't smoke but keen to grab a drink and watch one of the other cards this summer before 189 at Lagrasse and grab some drinks or w/e

I'll PM you my US number when I arrive in the first week of June

Orensi: Dodson hit MM hard and while he went down he didn't go out. Horiguchi is nowhere near as fluid as Dodson and from memory has worse wrestling and power as well.

I'm not lining up to fire MM at -800 but i'm tempted to take MM ITD if its at plus
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04-24-2015 , 05:00 AM
Fully expect Rampage to beat Maldonado, either via 29-28 r1/2 or by KOing him early although Maldonado has a great chin, he's super slow and hittable and Rampage has a lot of power.

If a 5 rounder this would be closer but I fully expect Rampage to win this one. won't fire -280 or w/e the line is now but if it was -180 I definitely would. He will have to be the worst rampage we've ever seen (which is possible) to lose this one, or Maldonado has to have improved which I doubt since he's just a sloppy brawler with a lot of heart and a good chin

Cote is pretty tempting, Riggs is pretty old in fight years and Cote has looked respectable lately even in his loss to Wonderboy since his disappointing Sakara fight a few years ago.

What do you guys think is better, MM ITD +100 or fight goes U4.5 rounds at +100? Both are available, i'm leaning u4.5 as MM should almost always win, but I think he gets caught more often than finishing specifically in the last 2.5 mins of the a 25 min fight

Made my first few bets of the card

1.5u MM/Horiguchi u4.5 rounds -101
0.25u MM wins by Submission +250 (honestly I should have probably hit this for my major bet but I chickened out and went with the under instead)
1.7u Bisping -144
0.25u Dolloway wins by KO/TKO +950 (close to breakeven hedge if Dolloway catches Bisping and KO's him and still win 1.45u if Bisping wins - I should probably go bigger here as I do think Bisping gets Ko'd more than 1 in 9 times, but I also expect Bisping to win the fight and want my major play on that side)
1u Cote -197
0.5u Letourneau -157
0.07u to win 1u Parlay (MM/Horiguchi u4.5+Bisping+Cote+Letourneau+Markos+Rampage)
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04-24-2015 , 05:30 AM
all credit to maldonado guy is a leigitmate tough out for any one heck i think it would even take some effort from rumble but the more i think about it the more i think rampage is not only still a top 5 talent but also a potential challenger to rumble if he wins vs jones rampage losses are to grinders jones and wanderlei in the last 12 years and as long as bader/cormier winner(bader btw) gets taken out of the title picture in their next fight it could be an easy path of maldonado and then osp before title contention
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04-24-2015 , 05:56 AM
What, rampage to beat Johnson at this point in their careers and previous last 4 performances?
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04-24-2015 , 05:58 AM
Rampage will smoke Maldonado though, this is the perfect fight for him. A slow brawler with a hittable chin and who's idea of a defense is sticking his chin out. Maldonado has some nice body shots though.
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04-24-2015 , 07:02 AM
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all credit to maldonado guy is a leigitmate tough out for any one heck i think it would even take some effort from rumble but the more i think about it the more i think rampage is not only still a top 5 talent but also a potential challenger to rumble if he wins vs jones rampage losses are to grinders jones and wanderlei in the last 12 years and as long as bader/cormier winner(bader btw) gets taken out of the title picture in their next fight it could be an easy path of maldonado and then osp before title contention
Obama just won the presidency over McCain. Justin Bieber is making some YouTube videos. Facebook seems like a cool concept and Rampage is a top 5 opponent.
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04-24-2015 , 08:22 AM
I do think rampage is still top 15 (barely) but he isnt top 5 anymore
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04-24-2015 , 09:24 AM
Yeah sure, seeing as Maldonado/Hendo/Shogun are up there.
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04-24-2015 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by anteatereater
Ben Askren is fighting tomorrow (April 24) against Luis Santos (61–9–1). The lines are up:

https://www.bestfightodds.com/events...-champions-921

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Luis-Santos-16216
No Contest (eye poke) - Round 1

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/4/24...antos-ruled-no
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04-24-2015 , 02:32 PM
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Not a big Brown guy but isn't he stopping Means every time here?
have you guys watched tim means last fights? dude is technically a beast with his striking with a rly good chin.
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04-24-2015 , 02:37 PM
the thing with rumble vs rampage is that rampage has the power to stop rumble and that means he has a shot at winning that fight i mean rampage is only 36 he beat mo handidly his last loss was glover who i'd give 0 chance to beat rampage now he beat machida at machida's peak in a division where ryan bader is top 5 and cavalcante is top 10 its not farfetched that rampage is a contender
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04-24-2015 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by theporkchop
the thing with rumble vs rampage is that rampage has the power to stop rumble and that means he has a shot at winning that fight i mean rampage is only 36 he beat mo handidly his last loss was glover who i'd give 0 chance to beat rampage now he beat machida at machida's peak in a division where ryan bader is top 5 and cavalcante is top 10 its not farfetched that rampage is a contender
while i agreed with some previous posts u made this one couldnt b more wrong, rampage isnt beating ne1 who has a lick of wrestling and a gameplan

and he most certainly did not even win the king mo fight let alone easily

Chase Raymond
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Dallas Winston
BloodyElbow.com 29-29 DRAW
SevereMMA.com 28-29 Lawal
Chuck Mindenhall
MMAFighting.com 28-29 Lawal
Nathan McCarter
BleacherReport.com 28-29 Lawal
MMAJunkie.com 28-29 Lawal
Mike Whitman
Sherdog.com 28-29 Lawal
Chris Nelson
Sherdog.com 28-29 Lawal
TJ DeSantis
Sherdog.com 28-29 Lawal
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Jason Floyd
TheMMAReport.com 28-29 Lawal
Adam Martin
MMAOddsbreaker.com 28-29 Lawal
ESPN.com 28-29 Lawal

Read more at http://mmadecisions.com/decision/517...w7zeKhemeWw.99
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04-24-2015 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Ya cool i'm one of the only poker players I know who doesn't smoke but keen to grab a drink and watch one of the other cards this summer before 189 at Lagrasse and grab some drinks or w/e

I'll PM you my US number when I arrive in the first week of June

Orensi: Dodson hit MM hard and while he went down he didn't go out. Horiguchi is nowhere near as fluid as Dodson and from memory has worse wrestling and power as well.

I'm not lining up to fire MM at -800 but i'm tempted to take MM ITD if its at plus
sounds good think ill prlly get there on the 25th of may
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04-24-2015 , 03:48 PM


Any views about this,
what does it mean when a ref does this?

Edit just a month to UFC 187...

Light Heavyweight Jon Jones (c) vs. Anthony Johnson
Middleweight Chris Weidman (c) vs. Vitor Belfort
Lightweight Khabib Nurmagomedov vs. Donald Cerrone
Heavyweight Travis Browne vs. Andrei Arlovski
Flyweight Joseph Benavidez vs. John Moraga


Andrei Arlovski could easily KO travis brown? He has hugely better movement..

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04-24-2015 , 05:27 PM
Is Aldo the biggest lump of the century. How is he not 1/3?
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04-24-2015 , 06:04 PM
Both fighters are extremely dominate of the cage and sharp, both have speed technique, power and tremendous leverage.

Conor McGregor is an extremely special fighter, he is a lethal weapon, he is in the cage with Aldo for a reason, he looks like a champion.

watching both of these fighters highlight real is unbelievable, Conor McGregor has dedicated his whole life to MMA and it shows, his stats are unheard of.

Aldo is going to have his hands full on the feet, he will be more than matched there and I think Conor will slightly outshine Aldo physically,

hugely looking forward to seeing this fight, it might end early inside of 45 seconds, these are two big dogs going in for the kill.

Cant see Conor lose.....how is some one going to beat this guy, he is a beast, look at this body and approach to the sport.

Crazy fight.





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04-24-2015 , 07:08 PM
I think there's value in a few of the dogs on this Invicta card. I may regret my large Peggy Morgan bet. Hopefully she can use her massive size effectively against the cage and on top of her less experienced opponent.

Invicta FC 12 Risk $290.00

Livia Renata Souza (+175) vs Katja Kankaanpaa $50.00 for $87.50
Roxanne Modafferi (+135) vs Vanessa Porto $50.00 for $67.50
Raquel Pa'Aluhi (+180) vs Ediane Gomes $50.00 for $90.00
Peggy Morgan (-140) vs Latoya Walker $140.00 for $100.00
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04-24-2015 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by theporkchop
the thing with rumble vs rampage is that rampage has the power to stop rumble and that means he has a shot at winning that fight i mean rampage is only 36 he beat mo handidly his last loss was glover who i'd give 0 chance to beat rampage now he beat machida at machida's peak in a division where ryan bader is top 5 and cavalcante is top 10 its not farfetched that rampage is a contender
MEDIA SCORES
Mike Chiappetta
MMAFighting.com 29-28 Jackson
FightMetric.com 29-29 DRAW
Chris Nelson
Sherdog.com 29-30 Machida
Mike Whitman
Sherdog.com 28-29 Machida
MMAJunkie.com 28-29 Machida
************** 28-29 Machida
Jordan Breen
Sherdog.com 28-30 Machida

Also, you forgot to mention that Rampage beat Matt Hamill and Matt Hamill beat Jon Jones.
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