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01-14-2015 , 12:13 AM
Hendricks should roll Brown.
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01-14-2015 , 12:26 AM
In a 3 round fight Hendricks -300 at least.
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01-14-2015 , 03:31 AM
Hendricks will dominate Brown, can't see anything else. Hendricks doesn't quit, he has a really good chin, and his cardio holds up for 5 rounds. Think there's this misconception that Brown has unlimited cardio just for the fact he beat a few fighters who don't have as good cardio as him.
Can see him taking down Brown at will as well. This is simply just a not good matchup for Brown, his 7 fight win streak didn't come against the caliber of fighters like Lawler and Hendricks, complete fighters with above average cardio and good chins.
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01-14-2015 , 10:35 AM
Iaquinta -184 vs Lauzon? He did get subbed in a fight he was crushing vs clarke but he should win this easily right, I know Chiesa gave the Lauzon fight away but Iaquinta is just as talented as Chiesa if not more so and should be on the rise while Lauzon is at the tail end of his prime if that these days

Also like Gastelum @ close to evens vs Woodley if its available

Mein/Alves thoughts anyone? Lean Alves but who knows where his heads at atm

Also like the Carla Esparza still champ on Dec 31 prop at +225 but idk if I want to tie up money for a year for a bet

Nelson +200ish vs Reem is tempting too, he has a chin and can take a beating and while Overeem crushes him skillset wise, he will crack Overeem's chin if he lands and can absord enough damage to not get KO'd to land a shot for quite a while so he has a good chance to touch reem's chin and put him to sleep
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01-14-2015 , 11:15 AM
Anyone want to take my action against - to hold the belt at the end of 2015

Hendricks +250
Pettis +115
Cain -112
Mighty Mouse -150.

This way I don't have a bet locked up all year. (Sorry swoop, can't bet against Esparza)
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01-14-2015 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yoyobo
I constantly look for reasons to fade Machida. Last time I bet him was his fight vs Dan Henderson, and have faded him in every fight since (except for Munoz).

+100 here though? Not sure how I don't fire multiple units on Machida. Love Rockhold and hope he wins. Machida should be -180 or better though imo.

Edit: also Stallings +500, and likely to rise. No one should be that big of a dog to Hall.
Fade machida? Doesn't really compute. Guys been world class his whole career. If your just saying you can't trust big juice on a passive guy then maybe?

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tbh I like Rockhold in this fight. Besides Weidman I think he's the best in the division.
Not sure why Rockhold is seen so highly. He's very good but I don't think #2. Also I think the ufc kinda ****ed up pegging him vs Lyoto. May ruin a huge contender and fight. Rematch Jacare for shot imo and Yoel vs Machida would be wild and smarter.


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Originally Posted by just_mo
Ya Rockholds really good and Machida's chin is a concern but Rockhold's been KO too and shouldn't Machida have the edge if this is on feet?
Why is machidas chin a concern? Wtf

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Originally Posted by yoyobo
Anyone want to take my action against - to hold the belt at the end of 2015

Hendricks +250
Pettis +115
Cain -112
Mighty Mouse -150.

This way I don't have a bet locked up all year. (Sorry swoop, can't bet against Esparza)
What do you mean exactly?
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01-14-2015 , 01:22 PM
Like bet on those?how would that work?
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01-14-2015 , 02:06 PM
Machida's chin is alright.
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01-14-2015 , 02:51 PM
Yeah it's alright. It's not like...the worst. But it's not what I would call good either. More than anything it's just that he doesn't react to damage well. He wanted out as soon as Bones hit him with that elbow.
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01-14-2015 , 03:29 PM
I meant I wanted those lines. If anyone wants to bet against them.

Those 4 lines are the exact same that uni bet is offering. I just don't want to lock up a money for an entire year. So if anyone on here wants to make the bet we can just settle when it ends.
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01-14-2015 , 03:50 PM
Well, he's only been KO'd once (Shogun, clipped him behind the ear, didn't see it), dropped once to the mat (vs jones, also dont get why u think he wanted out, if he wanted out, he could have just tapped. Besides, he was undersized vs a certain GOAT).

He just went to war with Weidman and showed he's gotten better in that aspect of brawling, and Weidman hit him with some bombs. I think he has proven he has an alright chin, he doesn't really have those fluke KO losses, and so I'd even extend it to a good chin. Agree though, he's weakness lies when fighters, like shogun/weidman put the pressure on him with good foot work.

Just think the "his chin though" comment isn't warranted.
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01-14-2015 , 04:00 PM
Machida's chin is more than okay. Think that's a silly thing to be worried about.
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01-14-2015 , 08:03 PM
Machida hates getting hit. I don't see how this is even up for debate. He gets skittish when people with power put pressure on him and hesitates to engage with them. Look no further than Rampage and Henderson fights.
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01-15-2015 , 02:32 AM
Those don't have to be exclusive though, you can have a good chin and not like being hit.
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01-15-2015 , 03:35 AM
Regardless, it has a pretty strong net negative effect on your overall performance, one not dissimilar to having a weak chin.

Freire -180 looks ok on Bellator? Thinking about Georgi also. Also like Tibau.
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01-15-2015 , 10:30 AM
Anyone else tempted by Jake Shields even at -4xx vs Brian Foster? He does have a win over Matt Brown but it's from 2010 when Brown got subbed by whoever and he has a win vs Steve Carl but its way older; he's barely a UFC caliber fighter if he even is one and Jake Shields is still top 15 even if he's no longer in his prime he's only really been dominated by Hector Lombard + the loss to Ellenberger when his dad had just died. I probably won't, but I mean how does Foster win this, stuff all the takedowns and win a narrow decision standing?

Also I kinda hate this next UFC card for betting, i'm on Bendo and Larkin and the FLW fight o1.5 rounds but nothing else seems appealing.
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01-15-2015 , 11:13 AM
I agree with you I don't see how Foster wins this fight outside an unlikely flash ko. Shields should probably be around -550 or more.

I have added Larkin at -150 for 1.5 units and 1 unit on Soriano at +130 alongside my arb on Conor which will net me 0.8 units and 1 unit on Park at +160. Feel pretty positive about all these bets.

Larkin should get the win here he has underwhelmed in the UFC so far but I like how he matches up with Howard. He is a lot more versatile on his feet and moves better well whilst Howard is a lot more of a plodding forward thai style striker and try to land big shots. So long as Howard can't impose his wreslting and turn long periods of the fight into a grappling contest I think Larkin takes it.

Soriano has been highly touted but had two really tough matchups for him in Kawajiri and Skelly. Rosa is a prospect himself and showed really good scrambling ability in his fight against Siver but also lost position fairly easily when he was in advantageous positions. I don't think from what I've seen that Rosa will be able to get the fight to the ground that easily and on the feet I expect Soriano to pick him apart with his pinpoint kickboxing and hurt Rosa on route to a decision or a KO win.
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01-15-2015 , 11:18 AM
Ya Larkin should beat Howard but Larkin is one of those guys who has fights where he just doesn't look like he cares so it's hard to trust him.

Parke tho? I think Tibau should definitely win this but he's another who always seems to be in razor close fights. On paper tho...
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01-15-2015 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
Ya Larkin should beat Howard but Larkin is one of those guys who has fights where he just doesn't look like he cares so it's hard to trust him.

Parke tho? I think Tibau should definitely win this but he's another who always seems to be in razor close fights. On paper tho...
Its a close fight but I slightly favour Parke, I think he puts out more volume and has better cardio but Tibau is more explosive and has better takedowns with a stifling top game. I caught the opener at +160 thought there was good value there but at the current line its pretty marginal.
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01-15-2015 , 04:20 PM
Tibau is better than Parke everywhere. There isn't a single area I give Parke an advantage. On top of that Tibau is a waaayy better athlete, and holds wins over some of the top guys in the world. While Parke is still struggling with guys like Santos.

Parke never finishes Tibau, so unless he can somehow steal one of the first two rounds, I don't see how he wins this.
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01-15-2015 , 04:46 PM
: Johny Hendricks vs. Matt Brown

this will be the hardest fight of Hendricks life
If I get to see Hendrix vs Brown I will be extremely pleased.


Hendrix had better come into the fight with exceptional cardio because Brown is going to make a life time stance about sht in the 3rd, 4th and 5th.


Going to be like a deer hitting your window screen at 70 after the 3rd round, brown is not going any place and Hendrix is good enough to not get KO'ed but he is in there with a proper hardcore dude.

some thing special about both of these fighters, Hendrix is going to be backing his arse up that's for sure.

As a side I have Hendrix still as the champ, Lawler did not take from Hendrix the championship.

Hendrix is still the champion in my estimation, he was not beaten crushed or other wise dealt with by lawler. fluffing your chest up in the 5th does not count.

Johny Hendricks vs. Matt Brown is a true word championship bout.
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01-15-2015 , 05:31 PM
This thread makes me so hopeful that I'm going to get a good line on Hendricks. Guy is going to smash Brown. We might even see another flash KO.
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01-15-2015 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by yoyobo
This thread makes me so hopeful that I'm going to get a good line on Hendricks. Guy is going to smash Brown. We might even see another flash KO.
What odds would you offer me that Brown doesn't get KO'd?

What odds would you give me that Brown wins the 3rd round should it go that far?

What odds would you offer me that Brown wins the fight?
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01-15-2015 , 07:27 PM
Will give you

brown to win +225.

Brown to win the third round (on 2 judges score cards, or via finish, no third rd is a push) +125

Brown not to get finished -500.

These are all off the top of my head. After I properly cap we can adjust if you like, as of right now I won't move those lines. Or we can wait until lines are released and bet vig free.
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01-15-2015 , 11:56 PM
souza-romero is off
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