Felder looks tough but slow from what i've seen from his other fights on youtube

Where/how do you see Castillo finishing more than 30%? When I was looking at o2.5 I figured Castillo is closer to 20% to finish. Only 2 UFC finishes vs Brenaman, who has nothing left, and Bailey who has been finished a lot. Felder is unproven but seems like he has enough experience to at least survive

Castillo has ever improving standup and decent BJJ and his opponent is the worst opponent he's faced in a long time. I'd take Brenneman over him probably. In a fight he's likely to dominate I think he finishes close to half the time. He also won about half his WEC fights ITD including finishing Ricardo Lamas and that was before he was working on his striking with Bang Ludwig.

I'm thinking hard about Burkman too.

Lombard's performance against Shields was just spectacular (for a boring dec), I really think the entire WW division struggles against him in a 3 rounder

Of the two dogs I think Gaudinot is far, far more likely to win and he's a slightly bigger dog

Excellent. Right before the first event, between rounds, and right before the main event I am pretty busy, otherwise I can get up and say hello.

thinking a hedge play on Cerrone vs Jury would be smart.

we bet Cerrone here night and day, he is a beast and Jury coming in after beating an over the hill fireball does not impress me, I would have knocked out fireball and I am an office work.

No Cerrone is a sick fighter.

When you have to work out if a figher is going to win and the "other fighter", is supposed highly skilled and able to do x y and z and has great footwork vs a world class proven bread and butter fighter.

you don't bet for the upset because past rd 1 once Cerrone has warmed up its all over for Jury he is a boy in with a filled out man, and not just that but Cerrone is on a mission at the moment because he is skint money wise so he is focused for one big push.

I am seeing Jury in round 1 at 15/2 (+750) and Cerrone 8/15, (-187).

Jury has a slim chance in the 1st when Cerrone is not all warmed up and on a war path.
Confused how to bet this fight.


If Jury beats convincingly Cerrone then that is going to be HUGELY impressive, all this talk of him being a well round proper MMA kid.

How does that help when you are vs some one like Cerrone.

To me Jury is a boy in with a proper man of the moment, man.

Im going to go and stick £125 on Cerrone and figure out if I hedge or put further money on Cerrone here, the upset and maybes does not happen often enough if we don't bet Cerrone and Jury gets found out for wanting at the highest levels that will just leave a bad taste in my mouth, if Jury gets in there and KO's Cerrone, or totally dominates him then all the better for Jury and my money will still have been on the expected +EV here.


Huge Cerrone fan love to see him fight, cant see a skilled and light boy take Cerrone off his target.

More interested in this fight than Jones, and even there we bet Jones, a good smaller man vs the worlds best ever.

Jones did not sparkle in a few fights but look at the guy, Anderson.S in his prime is the only guy I can think of that would stand a chance to "handle" him.

F this I am betting £100 Cerrone, and £75 jones.

Let the chips fall were they do, that is my take on it.

Ok logged into betvictor and found £75 in there which I did not know about.. shipped on Donald Cerrone, will hold back until weigh in to see how he is before unloading any more.

Like jones @ 4/7 via betvic , shipping

Donald Cerrone v Myles Jury

Donald Cerrone

(To Win the Bout - Match)

Odds: 8/15

Stake: 75.00

Possible Return: 115.00


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Single: Jon Jones @ 4/7
1 line at £70.00 per line
Total stake for this bet: £70.00
Potential returns: £110.00


these are two fights that will be great to watch purely as fans I believe the Cerrone and Jury fight to be closer than the Jones Cormier.

Jones is physically as well as mentally the vastly superior fighter.

If I had to place a bet here and my life depended on it, I would roll it all on Jones, there is no mistaking what he brings to the cage and a small pudgy little dude all up in him self about his wrestling even if it is all that and a bag of chips... there is a whole other level here.

Jones clash is an all time classic IMHO, Cormier is going to have to get through a wall of sht to get at Jones and even then its level peggings.

I feel you are miles off in your assumptions here (or trolling and I fell for it)

Jones has looked his best vs blown up middle weights or LHW's at the tail end of their careers. He hasn't finished any of the truly legit contenders he faced Gus, Evans or Glover. I can't see him ever finishing Cormier who is basically a much much better version of Evans.


Cormier has been fighting at HW and hasn't legitimately lost a single round in MMA. He is far stronger than anyone Jones has ever fought and brings elite level wrestling and huge punching power. His sparring partner is Cain and he's has a great fight IQ doing enough to control and win rounds very effectively (although sometimes frustratingly conservative).

Here's his highlights for anyone who hasn't seen his earlier fights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLjdu9QFJ4
This certainly isn't the fight you should "bet your life on"

I just think Jones technical striking is levels above Cormier's.

I agree but the trade off there is he lacks the KO power of Cormier.

Jones can certainly win but it's not by any stretch the lock of the year...

Jones vs Cormier is too close to call for me that I won't bet it and just enjoy it, I give Jones a slight edge due to his reach and experience in 5 round title fights at 205. Cormier though is a beast looks better each time we see him and ragdolled Barnett so I imagine he will get Jones down but I don't know if he can do it for 5 rounds or finish him. I'm not saying he can't I just don't know and thats what makes this fight interesting.

I have Tavares at +120 and Gaudinot at +550 both for a unit. I like Jury but will wait a little to see if he hits +200, its similar to the Rory vs Condit fight in that this could be the one one where Jury lacks enough experience to take it and gets caught. Its an interesting fight and we'll see if Jury is really elite.

Other line I'm considering is Lombard/Burkman ends inside the distance at -160. Lombard finishes guys the caliber of Burkman the majority of the time and Burkmans only shot will be a KO or submission after rocking Lombard.

that Cormier video is sick the guy is a beast,

Jon 'Bones' Jones Highlights 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llOzI7KGdJA

Cormier is going to get his valid test of his life time vs Jones, his match test.

Jon hits solid, like a axe through a tree I don't care how fit you are one hit in the wrong place and your in the wrong place on this sweet earth because you know your getting what ever is required next,

Jons is hugely impressive when he is a head a bit, like Tyson, Cormier moves like fedor.


With Bones being of bruce lee sht I have to know he knows distance is the one of the most important aspects here and explosive techniques.


I no way see this fight going the distance, one of these guys is getting brutally KO'ed, Im seeing 6/5 at the under 4.50 rounds.

I just added following.

Daniel Cormier v Jon Jones

Under 4.5

(Total Rounds U/O - Match)

Odds: 6/5

Stake: 35.00

Possible Return: 77.00




If jones beats Cormier inside of 4.5 rounds (they are suited to conflict, they are both not of the same distance some thing has to give).

If Jones beats Cormier I am way a head here and considered a genus, if Cormier wins he will do it by getting in close and smothering Jons badly and quickly jons or very few could hand an on top Cormier.


Jones to win, and some one to win by 4.5, and its a flip if its either fighter at worst I think Jons technically owns Cormier for the first 2.2 rounds?

One of the sickest match ups of our lives, you have to put your pencil in the sand and make a bet here even if its 1 dollar.


COME ON COWBOY, break him down he ant got nothing on you smash him in the face lol.

Don't let the fire hydrant look fool u DC is the superior athelete in this match up.

Uhmm. No.

Uhmmm yes. Who's the world class Olympic athlete. DC is physicaly stronger and more explosive. Having a long lanky and sinewy body doesn't automatically make Jones the superior athelelete.

Jones is the technically superior striker but that doesn't make him the better athelete

Agree with grumpy here, cormier as a former olympian throwing fighters like Barnett and Henderson around the cage like children is definitely the superior athlete.

To be fair I shudder to think what Jones would have been if he trained seriously from an early age. Instead of learning to fight from YouTube vids

Jones has shown a great chin, not worried about Cormier knocking him out at all.

Being in the Olympics doesn't either.

Jones had his first pro mma fight at age 21. By age 22 he was in the UFC. by age 23 he was a world champion. By age 24 he was arguably the best p4p fighter in the world.

the strides he was able to make in such a short time are truly incredible, and something that very few people could make. I mean just look at his striking from his first UFC fight to his fight with Shogun (a 18 month time span). He went from below average to truly elite mma striking.

Cormier may win this fight. I may even bet on him. He is not the better athlete here.

Cormier is a super athlete for his size but I think overall Jones is the more athletic guy.

I guess athlete is pretty subjective.

Cormier is stronger and more explosive, jones more agile and has creativity in strikes only really seen in him and Silva.

All depends on if cormier can push jones against the wall and/or take him down often. I think jones showed a good sprawl game vs gustafsson though. My guess is cormier wont get tired, he has that olympic athlete pedigree whrere he knows when to waste energy and when to conserve it for later opportunities. But if he cant wall n stall, cormier is in big trouble the way jones throws his oblique kicks. I mean, has cormier ever faced a serious kicker?

The debate about getting inside vs. Jones is a mute point. Virtually anyone can get on the inside at any time vs. anyone if they are willing to pay the potential price. Look at Chael vs. Jones... he went right at him got to the inside and discovered that he'd have suffered less (but still lose) if he stayed on the outside like everyone else.

Cormier will be able to get to the inside as he has no illusions that he has a chance from the outside. The difference between him and Chael is his wrestling should be good enough to take Jones down and it should be good enough to keep him there.

I will be betting on Cormier and I think he will either win via decision (similar to a GSP win) or the frustration of being on his back will cause Jones to get dq'd in the 4th/5th or he will get caught by flipping to his stomach in an attempt to get up and get rnc'd.

Since Cormier will force a close exchange/wall stall the question is does Jones have what it takes to stop the takedown? I doubt it. But if he does and cormier keeps him pinned who wins the rounds? I don't believe Cormier will ever settle to being stuck on the outside as he wants to win and the people that have stayed on the outside have mentally quit as they are taking the route of less punishment but still losing.

Only 2 fighters which are equal to jones on the outside have been gustafsson and machida. Outside of those, pun intended, dont see cormier managing the distance due to his short nature and limited kicking ability.