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12-21-2014 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RB87
Only bet I have tonight is Cummings at -165 to win 1 unit.
He did miss weight which is kinda off putting but only by a very small amount. I still like how he matches up with Carlos jnr and think he'll be able to dictate the fight with clinch work and get eventual top position and ride out each round. His striking looks decent enough to keep himself out of trouble and he moves really well for a 205 fighter and is a great athlete with a a high level mindset which should mean we see constant improvement fight to fight.
1 unit for me been pretty lazy lately with my mma betting only made like 1 bet a card for the last 6 or 7 events but my bankroll keeps moving steadily upwards so guess its not a bad strategy coupled with getting strong favourites early and arbing at fight time.

Really enjoyable event glad to Machida won he's my all time favourite fighter and I really think he changed the game when he came into the UFC. His movement was so different from anything else I'd seen at the time. Don't know who he'll fight next maybe Jacare, Romero or Rockhold but they might want to keep those guys for Weidman.
I'd happily just watch Machida crush mid tier fighters like Bisping etc for the next few years and retire with a few more highlight KO's.
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12-21-2014 , 10:25 AM
I hope Machida fights Romero next, he will WRECK him probably with his movement and striking. Romero is so hittable and Machida's TDD and movement are great. Slightly scary fight due to Romero's athleticism but he should still win. Machida/Rockhold would be great too, I think Machida TKOs him standing but he's a very Weidman-esque fighter, just not quite as good as Weidman at anything in particular. Jacare will probably be fighting the Weidman/Vitor winner, I doubt he gets another fight before that. They need to keep him around and ready to save the card anyway in case Weidman gets injured or Vitor gets injured or fails a drug test before the title fight anyway.

Personally i'd love to see Machida/Romero, but I expect to see Machida/Rockhold assuming we don't get any new arrivals at 185
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12-21-2014 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Well, except Sasaki being -500. That seems a bit misplaced.

Interesting fact I just came across, Jesse Ronson went 0-3 in his last UFC run, losing all 3 fights by split decision.
Not only did he lose he was dominated.
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12-21-2014 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
Erick Silva is the new Guillard, it's not fixable simply put. How do you fix lacking cardio, when it's genetically said u can't go 5 rounds at a decent pace.
Most of the time the fighters can go 7 or 8 rounds full force in sparring with no issue but then find they crash in the cage after 3. It's because of the adrenaline dump effecting them on fight night. I work with guys to reduce the fight or flight response and therefore give them more energy later in the fight.

Silva almost always goes full force and for the kill in the first then burns out. I'd assume that's a mindset issue rather than lack of training/cardio.
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12-21-2014 , 03:06 PM
Erik Silva vs Brandon Thatch if he gets past Thompson. Seems like an easy matchup for the UFC to make. Know you get a fast pace with an early stoppage most times. Great for fox prelim headliner or main card PPV event.
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12-21-2014 , 03:13 PM
Too bad for Silva he can't fight TUF rules, win 2 rds and fight over. No cardio problems
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12-21-2014 , 03:32 PM
Don't know why Issa was +400. Maybe because everyone else knew he was injured, but I didn't, so I bet on him anyway. Or atleast the All American commentator mentioned that he was nursing some rib injury, during the walk out.
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12-21-2014 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by elliot10181
Most of the time the fighters can go 7 or 8 rounds full force in sparring with no issue but then find they crash in the cage after 3. It's because of the adrenaline dump effecting them on fight night. I work with guys to reduce the fight or flight response and therefore give them more energy later in the fight.

Silva almost always goes full force and for the kill in the first then burns out. I'd assume that's a mindset issue rather than lack of training/cardio.
Perhaps, I am no expert in the area. All I know is, there is a ceiling, just for talent, as there is for cardio. Is it possible though that some fighters simply have awful cardio, adrenaline dump or not?
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12-21-2014 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wpd5
Erik Silva vs Brandon Thatch if he gets past Thompson. Seems like an easy matchup for the UFC to make. Know you get a fast pace with an early stoppage most times. Great for fox prelim headliner or main card PPV event.
Whoever wins that fight is a hot prospect ranked above Erick Silva right now imo. While i'd like the fight Silva is 5-4 in the UFC technically. Bring Erick up a bit slower this time and the winner of that fight gets a top 10 guy. Give him someone top 25ish like Matt Wiman to build a bit of a streak and more hype before he gets thrown back to the top 15. A main card PPV fight with a top 15 guy will sell more for him if he has 2-3 highlight reel finishes in a row first. He's only 29-30ish no need to rush it.
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12-21-2014 , 04:09 PM
Some do but it's really rare to see it in lower weight classes.

I'd expect Silva to be training at a high pace 4/5 hours 6 days a week. The fact he burns out in around 5/7 minutes during fights means it's likely an adrenaline dump. I don't know him or his camp though so I could be wrong.
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12-21-2014 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by phenomenal
Don't know why Issa was +400. Maybe because everyone else knew he was injured, but I didn't, so I bet on him anyway. Or atleast the All American commentator mentioned that he was nursing some rib injury, during the walk out.
Because his Sakasi was a real prospect and Issa looked to be on his way out. His last two fights showed bad striking/wrestling, and a poor ability to transfer his BJJ skills to mma ( Doane even sub'd him)

Think with the preflight info the line was about right.
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12-21-2014 , 07:19 PM
Machida outstruck Dollaway 12-0.
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12-21-2014 , 07:55 PM
Well his gameplan sucked, he did what Bader tried to do, play the distance game and "feel" out Machida. You don't "feel" out machida, you put pressure on him with good footwork and disrupt his tempo, and try to mix in takedowns if possible.
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12-21-2014 , 11:22 PM
think i might stick a biggish bet on myles jury if he opens at like +170-200

thoughts?
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12-21-2014 , 11:31 PM
Likely a good bet +200 and above

Cerrone pretty much always starts slow gives away the first round, that gives any even semi competitive opponent a pretty decent advantage.
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12-22-2014 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Give him someone top 25ish like Matt Wiman to build a bit of a streak.
Is Matt Wiman moving to WW?
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12-22-2014 , 01:36 AM
Booked up for 182, anyone going?
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12-22-2014 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Swiiftx
Well his gameplan sucked, he did what Bader tried to do, play the distance game and "feel" out Machida. You don't "feel" out machida, you put pressure on him with good footwork and disrupt his tempo, and try to mix in takedowns if possible.
Agreed, people who barrel at him have had far more success, Shogun excepted.
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12-22-2014 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by andrew12341231
Is Matt Wiman moving to WW?
Got the weight class mixed up in my head for some reason. Tumenov/Musoke winner or something substitutes in nicely. Magny/Kuunimoto winner works too. Mein/Alves winner maybe if they want to move him up faster?
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12-22-2014 , 06:53 AM
By the way if anyone ITT likes watching SC2 proleague, going to record my bets over the whole yearlong season on twitter along w my record (assuming all bets 1u which obv isnt the case with my actual bets).

Will be interesting to see if 5%+ ROI is achievable over a whole year (1000+ bets) at -108 lines.

I'm going to do this for MMA as well but i'll start that in 2015 - never really kept records for MMA betting and going to start in 2015.

I think i'll wind up with 2-5% roi in esports and i'd be happy to show a profit of $1 at the end of the year for MMA. Think this was my first losing year on MMA despite the awesome card to close it out. Would need to double check stats for that though. Might have broken even but I think I fell just short.

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12-22-2014 , 05:14 PM
Cruz has done his ACL again.... This time the other leg

Shame as would have been a great fight
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12-22-2014 , 05:18 PM
Assuncao out now too, broken ankles
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12-22-2014 , 05:48 PM
wow that sucks

Crazy day for BW division
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12-22-2014 , 06:10 PM
Damn... Does this mean Barao/Dillishaw again?
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12-22-2014 , 06:37 PM
Has to, unless CM Punk can make 135.
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