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12-09-2014 , 05:23 PM
Looking at this weeks card like Swoop said the Cruickshank line stands out to me as the best on the card. He is better then Noons everywhere, has the momentum and Noons has been out for a while I see him more of a -350 fav so good value at -200.

Watched the Rogan podcast with Schaub. Rogan did pretty much just tell Schaub how it is but and felt kinda of bad for Schaub as Rogan just went on and on. I used to like Rogan but he comes across as a bit of know it all prick and tends to dominate conversations a lot when you want to hear what other people think.

Not sure what will happen in the Jones vs Cormier fight could see it going either way but if I had to bet I'd lean Jones just as he's more proven at 205, 5 round fights and has more tools. Saying that Cormier has one huge tool his wrestling and that could be enough if he constantly takes Jones down and wears on him whilst holding his own in the standup he could take it. Will be such a great fight that I don't want really to bet on either and just enjoy it as I'm sure they'll be better spots on the card.
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12-09-2014 , 06:35 PM
I actually was leaning Noons and Oliveira. A bunch of lines opened for the JDS card. Gonzaga looks intriguing to me?
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12-09-2014 , 07:20 PM
Think i might fade steam on Struve and Diaz, I expect the fight day lines to be much better. Wouldnt be surprised to get +250 on Diaz and +300 on Struve.

Like Gonzaga too i think and JDS and the under 2.5 in his fight.

I'm pretty much a Diaz hater but I think he matches up great with RDA here kinda like how he did with Cerrone and Maynard - Bendo was an awful MU for him and called that too.

This weekend's lineup is pretty awesome considering no PPV card

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12-10-2014 , 12:41 AM
Yeah Diaz should match up ok here for sure. RDA is a very skilled boxer but so is Diaz, it should be competitive there.
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12-10-2014 , 11:28 AM
I think DC with take him down and get a GNP victory. Corr has a fed in his prime level GNP game. Without a ref stand up I really don't Jones getting of the ground once corr takes him down. So it will be very important for how many points bones can score before he winds up on his back. In short if the fight is mainly fought standing Jones wins if we have a ground war DC wins. The one variable would be the bottom game of Jones.
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12-10-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stressed
Just curious, why won't Jones finish Cormier ever?

GnP TKO, never?
Submission like one against Machida, or RNC etc... Impossible?

Cormier is tough as nails, no doubt.
But he's also short and chubby.
U really think bones can ever get top position in this fight? Only way I see that happening is if he knocks him loopy first then just jumps on top of him
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12-10-2014 , 07:41 PM
Made my first two plays of the TUF Finale card

3u Cruickshank -172 (love that price)
0.5u Oliveira +100

Tempted to bet Clark and Ellis as dogs but i'm bigger fans of their opponents so might resist. Kagan's tempting as a dog too. I'm actually pretty tempted to just blanket fire all of the womens 115 underdogs.

For the other card this weekend i'm liking the prices on Struve, Diaz, Gonzaga and JDS ITD. I think i'll get 1/2 wins from Diaz and Struve as dogs most of the time then I really like the matchup for Gonzaga if he fights smart and JDS will obliterate Stipe with his better chin/power. I think i'll do 2u each on the four of those lines.

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12-11-2014 , 12:26 AM
Heading to TUF final this weekend, PM me if any of you guys are there and want to meet up.

Can't believe they are selling CMpunks strength as BJJ and he's a white belt......

He does have some great head kick KO's though:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKloIXsyr4A
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12-11-2014 , 01:31 AM
This one is better. Too bad UFC wasn't a thing in his day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeBByT-onTI#t=51
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12-11-2014 , 03:12 AM
1u Buchholz +130 for WSOF card
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12-11-2014 , 04:18 AM
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This one is better. Too bad UFC wasn't a thing in his day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeBByT-onTI#t=51
i use to own people hard in that game. Just PDs over and over then a finishing move
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12-11-2014 , 07:17 AM
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U really think bones can ever get top position in this fight? Only way I see that happening is if he knocks him loopy first then just jumps on top of him
No, I do not think Jones will get top position in the fight but there's a small possibility. What would you lay that Jones won't ever have top position in the fight?
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12-11-2014 , 08:31 AM
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No, I do not think Jones will get top position in the fight but there's a small possibility. What would you lay that Jones won't ever have top position in the fight?
Well if we're talking about getting top position by out wrestling DC or getting a legit TD literally 20-1. Now he may knock DC down with a strike or incapacitate him in some way and get top position that way but if that point the fight is likely over anyway. In short I don't see Jones getting a TD in any situation where it will matter much. Kinda of point but I think being short and stocky gives DC just as many advantages as disadvantages
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12-11-2014 , 08:35 AM
We know Jones as the advantage at distance. Range 2 and 3 if u ever played fighting games. How much of an effort will it take for DC to close the gap and get into range 1 and 0 ?
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12-11-2014 , 11:08 AM
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Well if we're talking about getting top position by out wrestling DC or getting a legit TD literally 20-1. Now he may knock DC down with a strike or incapacitate him in some way and get top position that way but if that point the fight is likely over anyway. In short I don't see Jones getting a TD in any situation where it will matter much. Kinda of point but I think being short and stocky gives DC just as many advantages as disadvantages
Completely agree with what you're saying.

You serious about the 20/1 on a Jones takedown?

Mind if make a tiny wager on that? Will be an interesting sweat.
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12-11-2014 , 03:55 PM
I'll do that bet too. Even give you 18-1.
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12-11-2014 , 06:11 PM
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I'll do that bet too. Even give you 18-1.
Not trying to hurt your guys action but what about factors like DC gets hurt just prior with a punch... or he's exhausted, perhaps injured.
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12-11-2014 , 06:13 PM
Looking forward to the TUF finale. Watched the whole season and I think there are at least 6 legitimate fighters out of the bunch. Should be a fun division to watch.
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12-11-2014 , 08:54 PM
Just went to the weighins,

Was surprised Aisling was off by so much.

The 115 girls irl are really tiny (think middle school sized) not a shock there aren't many KOs.
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12-12-2014 , 01:14 AM
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Completely agree with what you're saying.

You serious about the 20/1 on a Jones takedown?

Mind if make a tiny wager on that? Will be an interesting sweat.
No over all odds would not be 20-1 because as I pointed out Jones may knock him loopy making a TD much easier but at that point the TD would be a moot point as the fight would be close to over anyway.
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12-12-2014 , 01:30 AM
Out of the aussie girls <3 chambers (she has the same nickname as my girlfriend for the same reason, lol) she seems smart and cool, but rawlings really is a filthy bogan who seems to have no class.

Heather Clark is growing on me esp after it turned out she did have the injury she claimed on the show and the other girls were telling her was made up etc

Aisling looks fat at weigh-in, I don't know how that's even possible at 115 although I guess she did miss weight. Wouldn't be surprised if she's sick or something so fired chambers mostly due to the weight

Love Markos to grind out Penne.

The only womens fight w reasonable odds i'm skipping is Esparza/Rose because they clearly were the two best on the season. Either way we get a deserving champ. If Esparza wins and Markos does too they need to make that fight next simply because of the hatred they have for each other. If not i'm guessing Gadelha/Jederczuk winner gets the next shot probably. Not sure who would be best for Rose to fight next if she wins.

Added some more bets

I'm going to fire Diaz, Struve, Gonzaga and probably JDS as well but waiting for better underdog prices on that card.

Currently got

3u Markos -110 (I think she can grind Penne to a 30-27 a lot of the time if she fights to win and she should since it gives her a chance of getting Esparza next win or lose which is the fight she wants)
3u Cruickshank -172 (I think Noons is a has been and only looked good vs Stout because Stout is washed up too - Noons barely outboxed a past his prime G-Sot prior to that and G-Sot is a grappler)
2u Buchholz +130 (From what i've heard he should be a favourite and he does have a better resume)
1.5u Kagan +145 (I think she will grapple**** Hill easily a lot of the time and i'd rather bet on grappling than muay thai at 115 due to higher chance of finish)
0.5u Oliveira +100 (pre weighin, obv not gonna add more)
0.5u Clark +160 (odds play again, I think it's probably a flip with Bec, neither of them are that good so take the dog)
0.5u Ellis +299 (odds play, I love Felice and think she's a fav but not this much of a fav)
0.5u Chambers +185 (mostly because Aisling looks so bad at weighins and might have something wrong with her)
0.1u all of my 10 picks except Buchholz and Oliveira +518000 (lol, guessing I might hedge a bit on this one if it's live going into JDS think this has the highest odds of literally anything i've ever bet)

On a lot more dogs than usual this weekend but feeling good about it. Going to be on 9 dogs and 3 favs (one of which is at evens) once I add Gonzaga, Diaz, Struve and JDS, and I think i'm going to go 6-6 or thereabouts a lot.

Anyone like either side on Fitch/Palhares? Obviously prime Fitch 50-45s him but Palhares is in his prime and Fitch isn't. Not sure which way to go. Kinda hope Palhares takes his leg home in r1.

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12-12-2014 , 03:39 AM
Been grappling with Markos 3-4 times a week for the past 2 or so months. very biased, but I really think she has a great shot at winning this. Liking the odds here.

Don't think fitch is worth fading at -140. Although I do think he is a rightful dog.
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12-12-2014 , 04:49 AM
Palhares seems like he should maybe win but his cardio is a major concern against a guy who is gonna dominate later rounds. Over 1.5 seems crazy at -115? Fitch is not gonna be an easy sub
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12-12-2014 , 04:58 AM
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Palhares seems like he should maybe win but his cardio is a major concern against a guy who is gonna dominate later rounds. Over 1.5 seems crazy at -115? Fitch is not gonna be an easy sub
I thought danna kicked that dirty pos to the curb? Or was that a different palhares?
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12-12-2014 , 05:09 AM
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I thought danna kicked that dirty pos to the curb? Or was that a different palhares?
It's in the WSOF, Palhares won their belt and Fitch is the number one contender there
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