I don't think Rockhold will win a single round against Weidman, he's great at everything, but Weidman is even better at everything

that's not why we post here... we don't insult each other like this, we make constructive comments and talk about betting mma, my post is solid and I made what I thought was a decent point, no one has said my point is nuill, also didn't you read my post I didn't have any money on hunt but felt it was a good bet pre fight.

Also to the OP stating Hunt took the fight on short notice as well, just makes the fight stink all the more.

UFC should not be doing this to Hunt, Hunt deserved a fair crack of the whip here. If he lost in normal setting fair enough.

Any one here ever do any thing at high Alt, you cant move or think because your body has no Oxygen, its a big point ok

Also the comment about a prize fighter needing to be able to fight in any city, that sounds really nice in principle but there are caveats to that.

If you take a fighter that has never fought other than at sea level (a world class level fighter) and you ship him up to a decent ft above sea level with almost no prep. That is boarding on criminal, you are basically setting up the situation for serious damage, like peoples well being.

Right now Im thinking about Barry McGuigan vs Steve Cruz for example with McGuigan fighting in like 110 degree heat or what ever and Cruz being much more accustom to that kind of temp, and McGuigan still represented all the way to the 15th.

MMA is dangerous enough.

I think the UFC did Hunt a huge in-justice here, Ill tell it as it is because nothing is given for tomorrow.

Hunt is not a one trick pony, Hunt deserved a level proper chance at the fight and that means his natural way, heavy set.

yeah hold on, guy was 260 over Werdum 230 right.

Fight stinks... its a void fight in my opinion, the first round before Hunt basically runs out of Oxygen is a snap shot of what the fight could have been.


hunt was an idiot to take the fight at that Alt.

+1 agree with this.

+2 I just don't see how Weidman loses this fight. Even if the striking gets scary he can just take it to the ground

At the end of the day Hunt was in the mix, but not next in line for a title shot and he got given a chance to win a title on short notice, he'd have been crazy to pass on a chance to become the Interim HW champ and get paid for it even in unfavourable conditions - the altitude affects both fighters equally and while a few weeks notice isnt ideal its not like he took the fight on 24h notice or anything and i'm sure he can get another title shot if he wins a few fights and earns one. If he turns this down he's in line behind the winner of Werdum/his replacement and the winner of JDS/Stipe at the very least so he wouldnt have got a title shot for a couple more fights anyway and as it stands even after losing this fight he's still probably only 2-3 wins from a title shot anyway with how shallow HW is

Rose Namajunas just accused Duke Roufus of a bunch of things, negligence leading to the death of one of his fighters, ordering HWs to beat up LWs in his gym etc

I wouldn't be surprised if we are starting to see a few fighters suddenly underperforming because of the more effective drug testing.

I have no evidence on Jake specifically (or anyone else), but surely it must be affecting a lot of fighters.

Dana said if Cub beats Frankie, he will get the next shot at Aldo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99fYRcvmcY

Conor in frankies corner this week needing that win his title shot depends on edgar winning. Think i like barboza frankie and oleynik but not sure about him as rosholts been good lately

I saw the video of the fight they are referring to, it was just horrible to watch. I mean, even I as no medical expert, could see something was wrong the way the fighter was wobbling and keeping his hands. And to see his corner, and the doctor just sitting there watching his phone.

Loved Edgar at -190 opened only a like now. Pickett looks like he might be too short a fave also. And isn't Narvaez the WOAT? The guy they brought in to give Hamill a win?

Originally Posted by SwoopAE View Post
Rose Namajunas just accused Duke Roufus of a bunch of things, negligence leading to the death of one of his fighters, ordering HWs to beat up LWs in his gym etc

I saw the video of the fight they are referring to, it was just horrible to watch. I mean, even I as no medical expert, could see something was wrong the way the fighter was wobbling and keeping his hands. And to see his corner, and the doctor just sitting there watching his phone

yeah I saw this the other day here too:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a01_1416103281

"Death in the Ring: Experts describe what went wrong in fatal kickboxing fight at Eagles Club - Amateur kickboxer Dennis Munson Jr. died after his debut fight in March 2014 at the Eagles Club in Milwaukee. Independent experts say there was a cascade of errors by fight officials."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=CaK-rBBMd6Q


Couple of points.

I was riding home on my bike from central London to home and I think first and foremost, the ref... the doctor, and the corner men they need to have their pay for that night returned, it might sound like a really flippant stupid comment that is almost a joke but im being serious those guys need to understand they did not do any work that night and in turn they need to deal with that. for them to be paid for that BS is wrong, they need to be self returning any wages.


I think its slim when he first starts showing signs of fatigue, like the comments about the leave the corner and the gate signs, its there but you could kind of excuse it. But then it gets to a point that there is no more argument,

The guy fell apart and even after he collapses they don't treat him... that right there is manslaughter.

You got to remember this is serious business, these fighters depend on a number of things, suitable equipment which is safe, a support structure to allow them to expose their sport.

This is like snuff movie, the part at the end when the guy is obviously ill, he collapses.. right there you deserve to be looked up properly possible criminal charges.

this guy did not need to die, the doctor is a *** idiot but the ref really needs to be brought to book.

They need to have their wages taken back for that night there is no question about that.

RIP to the guy that died there, he should have taken a knee, little did he know he was in blood sport movie with no support.

Kelvin Gastelum vs. Tyron Woodley slated for UFC 183 co-main event

http://sbnation.com/e/7007462

Close fight, leaning Gastelum though, better cardio and pushes the fight forward, and Woodley has trouble when fighters push forward and make it a dirty fight. Think Woodley will buckle, though he has lots of power and Gastelum leaves lots of openings and he wouldnt want to get hit clean by Woodley, which is a possibility.

I would fade Gastelum against most of the top 10 but I hope he figured out his new diet and comes in fit to crush Woodley.

Anybody on Cub this week ?

That doctor should be brought up on charges.

That was pretty *damn* disgusting. Unregulated kickboxing. Amateur fighters. Everyone on the payroll of the big (and only?) promoter in town, 33 secs that went missing but it wasn't "deliberate", right. The ringside doc, referee, cornerman at the very least should never be able to corner / work a fight again at any level of sport and criminal charges should be investigated.

Took Edgar at -200 for 2 units think that will be my only play for the weekend.
I think Cub will need to finish inside 5 rounds otherwise I see Edgar outworking him and getting the better of the grappling exchanges.

Just caught up on the Bellator fights and Manhoef vs Schilling was great glad the show overall did well in the ratings as I like the way Coker matches up fights.
The lineup for a show next Feb looks great Daley vs Lima, Mcgreary vs Newton, Lashley vs Thompson 2 and Sok vs Vassell.

Fired a few small ones

Edgar -201 1u
Vanzant -141 0.5u
Barboza -123 1u

Nothing else looks to amazing. Anyone love anything in particular this card?

Really loving the Gustafsson price vs Rumble, for the first time possibly ever in his career Rumble will probably be the smaller fighter and I think that will hurt him, Gus has the TDD and reach that i think Rumble needs to KO him to win and if Jones can't do that with all the damage he landed on him in r4 etc then I don't think Rumble can either

Hope gastelum is a dog will def bet him at plus vs woodley

I'm amazed they didn't put him against Matt Brown. Oh wait they want him to win.

Matt Brown vs Tarec Saffedine for a 5 rounder booked for February I believe.

totally random off topic question.

was walking home and saw up a head a big guy who was drunk, he started kicking every thing he could see in the street and was in the centre of town,

I dropped back behind him and watched to see if he was stupid enough to start a fight with some one.

If he had done some thing unfair to some one in the street like lashed out at some one I was going to jump on him, I am 6"2 and pretty strong but out of shape +20 pounds (230)

if you have the element of surprise and your vs a random large maybe strong drunk guy and you are totally sober and looking to hold the guy until the police arrive do you look to KO the person, or go for some kind of lock.

this was on bond street in London heading down into Piccadilly so I would not needed to have held him for more than 3 minutes.

I considered it as he was kicking a huge pile of work mens materials away from a bunch of work men and thought if I was going to step in it would be to KO the guy clean or at least cause such a bad injury he would not be dangerious to me if he was to pull a knife or some thing.

What do you think, smash legs, or actually throw a punch if your untrained in boxing? (I have done shadow boxing and can hit hard).

I am 6"2 and pretty strong but domesticated but still have my Irish side going on.

How many of you guys would step in, if in a public setting and some guy gets totally out of line and starts wacking people.

Sneak up rnc and whisper "good night sweet prince, shhhh" into his ear.

Could be good, could go either way - either Tarec beats him with technique or Brown beats him with the heart of a grinder. I feel like if Brown can survive 2 rounds he'll win in 5, in a 3 rounder it seems close. Brown has way more heart but if Tarec connects on him he could do some damage and accumulate a lead on the cards

I'd love to see Wonderboy/Brown 2 at some stage in the future if their paths cross, or Wonderboy/Tarec for that matter

@Balla i'm a FW size guy with no MMA training so i'd probably call for assistance in that spot unless the person in question is smaller than me and threatening someone smaller etc.

Due to a bit of a downswing on the last card i'll be going smaller on this one - 1u Edgar, 1u Barboza 0.5u Vanzant and the 0.25u each on the unders on the HW and Barnatt fights. I want to fire harder on Barboza but it's hard to with that chin. See how they look at weighins I guess but I think the Green that fought his last few fights gets outstruck by Barboza most of the time

Gastelum is the most promising TUF winner in a while (along with Chris Holdsworth and Julianna Pena if she can recover from injury) so i'm sure the UFC want to give him the easiest route possible to a title shot. A win over Woodley probably gets him a number one contender fight and as long as they keep him away from Rory and Lombard and Lawler he's in with a chance of earning a title shot imo

Current TUF season is a lot of fun btw if anyone isnt watching especially as it's a tournament for the belt - it'll be interesting to see who the 'Ronda of this season' is, I feel like Carla, Rose, Randa and Jojo are probably the four most likely in that order. I think it's the best season since the Tate vs Rousey Holdsworth/Pena season

1.5U Barboza