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09-25-2014 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by yoyobo
Does Cruz still get ppv points? Would assume he is still under the same contract. Not sure how all that works, but sounds like a reason.
This would explain him and faber being put on prelims. No way Dana wants to pay them points on a ppv unless they are main or co main. Bump them to prelims or free cards and he doesn't have to pay them.

All speculation obv but seems like a plausible reason. Hope it's not the case, these guys are underpaid even with ppv pts
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09-25-2014 , 11:05 PM
Faber actually requested to headline the prelims, being on free tv gets him more exposure he says.

Doubt they get ppv points, I'd think only co-main & main events get a piece of that action. Unless your name is Conor and then you'd get all the perks with discretionary checks.

Still not sure why people say they are underpaid, their only worth what the market pays them. WSOF announcing a 50/50 spilt with fighters on their next ppv event sounds reasonable and will be interesting to see how that pans out.
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09-26-2014 , 05:18 AM
Pretty sure I read Gil gets points whenever he's on PPV, that's why they straight gave him a title shot and another now even though he almost lost to Diego
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09-26-2014 , 09:10 AM
Hey guys whats the page i can draft UFC event?

Thanks
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09-26-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by marek_heinz
Pretty sure I read Gil gets points whenever he's on PPV, that's why they straight gave him a title shot and another now even though he almost lost to Diego
He didn't almost lose to Diego. He beat him up for two rounds and got caught in the third, after beating him up for most of that round too.

Gil deserves that shot right now more than anyone. If it wasn't for a bad decision he could be the champ right now.
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09-26-2014 , 12:17 PM
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He didn't almost lose to Diego. He beat him up for two rounds and got caught in the third, after beating him up for most of that round too.
I dont understand what you are disputing, he got legit knocked down and Diego screwed up the followup, not denying he dominated the rest of the fight. But if Diego reacts better, he finishes there
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09-26-2014 , 12:55 PM
Saying he almost lost to Diego is like saying Jones almost lost to Belfort. Or GSP almost lost to Condit.

Sure I guess it's true. Both of them were close to getting finished at one point in the fight. But it's a pretty terrible description of how those fights went.
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09-26-2014 , 02:33 PM
Cote dec +515, Johnson/Cariaso u4.5 +110, Cerrone -115, Nunes +245, Romero -135, and Cruz/Miz GTD -250 are my bets. glgl
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09-26-2014 , 02:59 PM
Seem solid.

Vinny -185 vs briz tonight. Might be worth a unit or two.
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09-26-2014 , 04:42 PM
What? Why? Didn't Brilz almost beat Lil'Nog and Vinny totally sucks? Without any further analysis i'd be leaning the other way at evens let alone at that price. Brilz hasn't been subbed since 2001 so it's not like he's lacking submission defense
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09-26-2014 , 05:09 PM
Not Alvarez ITD at -350 seems solid. Cerrone's only KO loss was body shot to Pettis and he got subbed late by bendo in WEC. I think giving Alvarez a 20% chance of finishing is generous and that still leaves some value.
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09-26-2014 , 05:36 PM
Maybe it's my love of Vinny more than anything.

Brilz isn't the kind if guy that is going to use amazing footwork and jabs to keep his opponent off of him though (in the way Davis did)and when Vinny gets a hold of him, I think that's it.

Also at this point in their careers I feel Vinny works harder. From everything he said/did leading up to his last metamoris fight, he seemed very dedicated to becoming the best MMA fighter he could be. Training very hard, and just doing everything right. I also got the same sense leading up to his Phil Davis fight. Clearly he's not a guy that is ever going to be a top contender. But he has the work ethic of one. In these promotions, with washed up ufc talent, that's pretty rare.
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09-26-2014 , 05:56 PM
I just struggle to bet on a guy who got KO'd by Perosh in under 10 seconds as a favourite against competent opposition. At the end of the day work ethic aside his best win is Igor Pokrajac. Brilz certainly doesn't have impressive wins either and he's getting old, but he does have a win over Boetsch and a close fight with Lil'Nog. Seems like i'd cap this at closer to evens on pure records/fights I remember alone, but I haven't seen either of their fights outside of the UFC so I might be missing something

Also, just added a 0.13u to win 7.3u parlay on Cruz/Thompson/Ebersole/Kennedy/Lee/Gibson/Masvidal/Alvarez - not going to make any huge bets on the next card so may as well have some longshot sweats to bink big. I think it hits more than 1 in 54 times or whatever the price is, so it's probably ok.
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09-26-2014 , 06:44 PM
Ya Brilz can grapple a bit, no way would I lay that kinda juice on a guy who got one-hittered by Perosh.
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09-26-2014 , 06:52 PM
I have Romero, Mizugaki and Dustin

Hoping for Romero and one of the underdogs.
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09-26-2014 , 07:01 PM
I've convinced myself I think, 0.4u on Brilz +175 - not going bigger because I haven't seen him fight since UFC days but I think this is more like a flip than the odds suggest
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09-26-2014 , 08:16 PM
Three fights cards tonight, two with action. I was originally on Vinny in the Titan main event but changed my mind and bet Brilz when his odds climbed.

Bellator 126 Risk $176.00


Brandon Halsey (+100) vs Alexander Shlemenko $50.00 for $50.00
Halsey wins in round 1 (+550) $5.00 for $27.50
Halsey/Shlemenko Over 1½ (-180) $45.00 for $25.00
Halsey wins by 5 round decision (+471) $10.00 for $47.10

Marcin Held (-115) vs Patricky Freire $46.00 for $40.00
Held wins in round 2 (+600) $5.00 for $30.00

Thiago Meller (+240) vs Bubba Jenkins $15.00 for $36.00

Titan FC 30 Risk $191.00

Jason Brilz (+166) vs Vinnie Magalhaes $60.00 for $99.60
Vinny Magalhaes (-165) vs Jason Brilz $66.00 for $40.00
Brilz/Magalhaes Over 1½ (-160) $40.00 for $25.00

Parlay:
Mike Richman (-250) at Bellator 126 + Anthony Gutierrez (-230) $25.00 for $25.22
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09-26-2014 , 08:27 PM
Cruz&Zingano -146
Thompson&McGregor -133
Cariaso +900
Cruz&Kennedy&Alvarez +463

Last edited by vanDrubi; 09-26-2014 at 08:37 PM.
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09-26-2014 , 08:35 PM
Added 0.5u Ebersole +211, I don't think he's that much of a dog to Howard and will have a size advantage plus Howard's showed some weakness to grapplers in the past and Ebersole really needs to win this one as a loss would be 3 straight

Cariaso out to +1051 now, is that the longest any fighter's been in the Main Event since this started? Off the top of my head it might be
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09-26-2014 , 08:41 PM
Means he is being given a 8.69% chance of winning.

No (male) fighter is ever that bad variance in MMA is too high. Less so in Womens MMA as far fewer fluke KO's
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09-26-2014 , 08:43 PM
Also is it me or did Romero have less of a size advantage than I expected? Quite like Kennedy now, I thought Romero was bigger and Kennedy was smaller
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09-26-2014 , 09:30 PM
Going with mostly dogs. Haven't been this excited for a card in awhile. First time that a main event is pretty much like bottom 2-3 fights for me on a stacked card.

Hope at least couple of these dogs will win:
-Gamburyan
-Tuck
-Cote (think he's drawing almost dead)
-Nunes
-Kennedy

Parlaying Cruz with McGregor
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09-26-2014 , 09:34 PM
Outside of Cerrone, I don't like a single side line for this card. Then even with Cerrone my read isn't very strong, and a lot of people seem to be on Alvarez, so not even sure I'll bet that.

Might take a stab on some o/u lines then watch as a fan. Decided to skip my Vinny bet and watch that as a fan as well.
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09-26-2014 , 10:02 PM
Just watched ep5 of embedded. Cowboy's a cool guy, real chill dude.
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09-26-2014 , 10:09 PM
Added Shelmenko, and tiny bet on cariaso
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