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03-18-2019 , 03:27 PM
Got my face kicked in this week. Brutal to have to pay my bookie $600+ lol.

Anyways, who can get me the hook up w/ a bookie with a good UFC book where I can hit props etc?

Hard to find
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03-18-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Gatsby
Michelle Waterson, bet the house on that 1!!!

EDIT: Not the house obv, but think she wins, Carolina just too damn hittable, don't see how she's a fav tbh! She's tough but Michelle got too many skills to get beat by her imo, in fact I think she will dominate her quite easily!
Tread lightly on that one man. KK much bigger, stronger, better in the clinch, and a history of a much better gas tank.
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03-18-2019 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Gatsby
Michelle Waterson, bet the house on that 1!!!

EDIT: Not the house obv, but think she wins, Carolina just too damn hittable, don't see how she's a fav tbh! She's tough but Michelle got too many skills to get beat by her imo, in fact I think she will dominate her quite easily!
Karolina is like the Arturo Gatti of MMA.
She is super durable and has an underrated clinch game.
If she can keep the fight inside Michele's kicking range, and use her clinch elbows, she finishes Michele.

I think KK should clearly be the favorite
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03-18-2019 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Knittle
Got my face kicked in this week. Brutal to have to pay my bookie $600+ lol.

Anyways, who can get me the hook up w/ a bookie with a good UFC book where I can hit props etc?

Hard to find
Where do u live
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03-18-2019 , 10:59 PM
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Woodley just got destroyed. Nobody wants to see a rematch of that.
This, instant rematch if it was a flash finish or close fight but he got dismantled for 5 rounds landing no offense. The division is deep with contenders Woodley needs to win a fight or 2 to earn a rematch.

If you get a rematch losing a dominant 5 round decision you may as well announce you need to beat the champ twice for the belt it was one of the most one sided title fights ever and it's not like Woodley has a previous win over Usman thatd make a rubber match necessary

If Woodley can win two fights vs top 10 guys sure give him a rematch but Covington and askren at least should be ahead of him assuming askren wins his next fight
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03-19-2019 , 05:14 AM
Got to agree Karolina isn't an easy fight for anyone outside of very top of the division. Saying that she has a win over Rose and put Joanna in a bit of trouble.

Also Waterson doesn't really have the one shot power to deter Karolina's output or ability to get into clinch range. The odds look about right to me.

I like Blaydes for this weekend. Blaydes is up with the best of the division, was super impressed with the way he dismantled Overeem and two losses against is nothing to be ashamed of. It is heavyweight so there is always that chance he eats a big shot but I just think he is going to be able to push Willis up against the cage and maul him on the ground.

Willis used decent footwork against Hunt but he didn't have to worry about the grappling and that was probably Hunt's worst performance in the UFC. I just think Blaydes is a much higher calibre of fighter then Willis and the fact he is coming off a loss gives us better odds then he should be.

Got £400 on Blaydes at 1.4
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03-19-2019 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Knittle
Got my face kicked in this week. Brutal to have to pay my bookie $600+ lol.

Anyways, who can get me the hook up w/ a bookie with a good UFC book where I can hit props etc?

Hard to find
why you dont play online?
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03-19-2019 , 12:11 PM
At first I thought betting Gaethje as a small dog +120 looked good against Barboza as his constant forward pressure would keep Barboza from kicking range. But then I looked at Barboza's record and noticed his last win came from a body shot TKO (punch to the body) and it seems that the way to beat Gaethje is to spam body shots. Barboza also only has one loss by KO and that seems like Gaethje's only path to victory unless he suddenly decides to wrestlefu*k, which he never will. So I bet Barboza at -150 instead.
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03-19-2019 , 03:22 PM
I really like formiga ground game but figueireiro is a beast too !thompson , blaydes ...this is it for me ! 2 cards in a row with poor betting value
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03-19-2019 , 04:06 PM
I think there is some value with Willis. That camp just knows how to win fights. They know a big heavy weight fight is next for Willis, if he wins.

I also LOVE Figueireiro and Gaethje.
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03-20-2019 , 09:40 AM
Karolina isn't an easy fight, I disagree 100% that's she the stronger fighter though. I still think Waterson has way better technique and is better in a lot of areas.

This will likely end in a DEC and I favor the much more skilled and athletic Waterson. She can go anywhere and be comfortable, she got decent ground game and I think she will easily out point and out work Karolina.

Karolina is also very hittable, so she's will most def be getting tagged, prob not getting tko'd but Michelle will be evasive like she always is and Karolina will be getting lit up like always...How you can think Karolina can win this fight is beyond me!
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03-20-2019 , 11:41 AM
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At first I thought betting Gaethje as a small dog +120 looked good against Barboza as his constant forward pressure would keep Barboza from kicking range. But then I looked at Barboza's record and noticed his last win came from a body shot TKO (punch to the body) and it seems that the way to beat Gaethje is to spam body shots. Barboza also only has one loss by KO and that seems like Gaethje's only path to victory unless he suddenly decides to wrestlefu*k, which he never will. So I bet Barboza at -150 instead.
He really got the knockout from multiple spinning back kicks to the body that landed flush. Edson usually struggles vs fighters who pressure heavy (Tony Ferguson, Khabib, Kevin Lee) and that's Justin's style, but I think Justin is one of the most overrated fighters, so i think Edson will get it done.
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03-20-2019 , 11:58 AM
im allin gaethje as a dog. ffs gaethje was a dog vs vick who's tailor maid to break under his pressure with the way he backs up to the cage in a straight line.

Last edited by Joe Pulaski; 03-20-2019 at 12:03 PM.
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03-20-2019 , 12:52 PM
Kevin Lee still nearly got decapitated and Gaethje likes to bite on the mouthpiece and throw hands which is the nut worst way to fight Barbosa

if Justin fights smart he should win on paper, but until proven otherwise, back the truck up on Barbosa
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03-20-2019 , 03:04 PM
I knew TJ had to be on some sort of performance enhancers to do as well as he did vs Cejudo.
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03-20-2019 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Gatsby
Karolina isn't an easy fight, I disagree 100% that's she the stronger fighter though. I still think Waterson has way better technique and is better in a lot of areas.

This will likely end in a DEC and I favor the much more skilled and athletic Waterson. She can go anywhere and be comfortable, she got decent ground game and I think she will easily out point and out work Karolina.

Karolina is also very hittable, so she's will most def be getting tagged, prob not getting tko'd but Michelle will be evasive like she always is and Karolina will be getting lit up like always...How you can think Karolina can win this fight is beyond me!
Come on man you contradict yourself in the same post.
"Karolina isn't an easy fight"
"How you can think Karolina can win this fight is beyond me!"

Your right that Karolina is very hittable but Waterson doesn't have the power in her hands to keep her at bay. She might be evasive but its hard to keep someone closing the distance if you don't have the power to back them up.

I could very easily see Karolina implementing the same gameplan she used against Rose. Closing the distance with volume and outworking Waterson in the clinch.

Ended up backing Jennifer Maia at 2.38 for £100.

This is a combination of following steam as she has been backed into 2.27 on Pinnacle and also based on the opinion of a few people that have good records betting MMA.

Watched some tape of the two and can see that its not a bad matchup for Maia as she usually struggles with fighters that can shoot under her and get takedowns. Davis though is much clinch orientated with her takedowns and will probably be happy to stay on the feet for long periods of time.

Its most likely going to be a scrappy brawl that could go either way so don't mind taking the underdog here.
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03-20-2019 , 05:02 PM
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Kevin Lee still nearly got decapitated and Gaethje likes to bite on the mouthpiece and throw hands which is the nut worst way to fight Barbosa

if Justin fights smart he should win on paper, but until proven otherwise, back the truck up on Barbosa
what are you talking about that's the absolute best way. the worst way was dan hooker trying to fight a ranged kicking attack. do you guys not remember the michael johnson fight?
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03-20-2019 , 05:51 PM
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what are you talking about that's the absolute best way. the worst way was dan hooker trying to fight a ranged kicking attack. do you guys not remember the michael johnson fight?
what I'm saying if Justin never tries to take him down he will not win this fight - he'll just get his legs kicked from under him until he drops hands and then he'll eat one to the temple
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03-21-2019 , 04:59 AM
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Come on man you contradict yourself in the same post.
"Karolina isn't an easy fight"
"How you can think Karolina can win this fight is beyond me!"

Your right that Karolina is very hittable but Waterson doesn't have the power in her hands to keep her at bay. She might be evasive but its hard to keep someone closing the distance if you don't have the power to back them up.

I could very easily see Karolina implementing the same gameplan she used against Rose. Closing the distance with volume and outworking Waterson in the clinch.

Ended up backing Jennifer Maia at 2.38 for £100.

This is a combination of following steam as she has been backed into 2.27 on Pinnacle and also based on the opinion of a few people that have good records betting MMA.

Watched some tape of the two and can see that its not a bad matchup for Maia as she usually struggles with fighters that can shoot under her and get takedowns. Davis though is much clinch orientated with her takedowns and will probably be happy to stay on the feet for long periods of time.

Its most likely going to be a scrappy brawl that could go either way so don't mind taking the underdog here.
Perhaps a bit of a contradiction. I meant more that she's tough and can take a beating, but also somewhat a tough fight for most because she's so durable, but that does not mean that I suddenly think she can win.

Wonderboy has no power but he will out point you all day long, Tony has no power, Holloway has no power, Nate is a volume fighter, does that mean that a sloppy brawler is going to do something to them???
Do they need power in their hands to keep them at bay? I don't agree with your line of thinking, Michelle doesn't need power, stick and move is enough, a jab a 1-2, her kicks are amazing and she can strangle you at any moment.

I'd be surprised by anything other than a sub (25-50%) or dec(50-75%) win for Waterson. I think its super unlikely that Karolina wins by tko (this is what you're suggesting right?) Some of the time Karolina wins by dec but she needs a strong performance, if she's not perfect forget about it.

Again I disagree with your assessment about Karolina's volume and clinch. Sure her clinch is good but she's not outworking Michelle nor is she going to man handle her and get easy clinch work in, just don't see it happening. Karolina has a slight gas tank issue imo as well, and if she goes too fast too soon, you will see her slowdown a lot in the 3rd.

Karolina is much slower with much less skill imo. She's a dog everywhere the fight goes except perhaps the clinch, why would I bet on Karolina exactly?
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03-21-2019 , 08:13 AM
Pretty sad TJ got USADA'd. Makes Cruz's performance against him even more impressive. Will be interesting to see what he popped for. Hoping it's a Machida style situation but expecting it to be some sort of PED to improve cardio given his style.

'TJ is the one who taught us how to do it' looks even worse from Cody now. No doubt TJ's been juicing the whole time (disappointed but not that surprised he did have a bit of a roider physique but I hoped he was clean) and I wouldn't be at all surprised if a large chunk of TAM is as well given Cody's slip. Worth looking at the guys TJ trains with too probably.

Anyway that kind of sucks. What do we do for the BW belt now, no point in Cejudo moving up unless he wants to permanently now, but Cejudo vs Moraes I guess for the vacant belt if Cejudo wants it? If not i'd say do Moraes vs Yan. Yeah, Yan only has one top win, but Cody's coming off 3 losses, Cruz is hurt and TJ will be suspended for a year plus probably depending what he pops for and all of the other top contenders have either recently lost to Moraes or don't deserve a title shot. I guess Munhoz is the next best option. If they're doing Cejudo vs Moraes, i'd do Munhoz vs Yan for #1 contender I guess on the same card so they can sub someone in if any issues.

Not much I love betting wise this card except just going to take the favs in the main and co-main because I can't see either of them losing outside of punchers chance. Wonderboy is just the worst matchup imaginable for Pettis and I think Willis only has a puncher's chance.
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03-21-2019 , 01:51 PM
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Perhaps a bit of a contradiction. I meant more that she's tough and can take a beating, but also somewhat a tough fight for most because she's so durable, but that does not mean that I suddenly think she can win.

Wonderboy has no power but he will out point you all day long, Tony has no power, Holloway has no power, Nate is a volume fighter, does that mean that a sloppy brawler is going to do something to them???
Do they need power in their hands to keep them at bay? I don't agree with your line of thinking, Michelle doesn't need power, stick and move is enough, a jab a 1-2, her kicks are amazing and she can strangle you at any moment.

I'd be surprised by anything other than a sub (25-50%) or dec(50-75%) win for Waterson. I think its super unlikely that Karolina wins by tko (this is what you're suggesting right?) Some of the time Karolina wins by dec but she needs a strong performance, if she's not perfect forget about it.

Again I disagree with your assessment about Karolina's volume and clinch. Sure her clinch is good but she's not outworking Michelle nor is she going to man handle her and get easy clinch work in, just don't see it happening. Karolina has a slight gas tank issue imo as well, and if she goes too fast too soon, you will see her slowdown a lot in the 3rd.

Karolina is much slower with much less skill imo. She's a dog everywhere the fight goes except perhaps the clinch, why would I bet on Karolina exactly?
I am not suggesting that Karolina is value or that Waterson is a terrible bet. But I disagree that Waterson is sub 1.5/-200 odds in this spot which is what you are implying.

For for me personally the odds look about right.

Also I don't think your comparison with Wonderboy etc is relevant at all. We all know there is a huge power differential between a women weighing 115 pounds and male fighters ranging from from 145 to 170.

Are you forgetting that Wonderboy stopped Whitakker and Hendricks (before he fell off a cliff)?

Tony one shot KO'ed Kikuno and Nijem from memory.

Anyway seems like things are getting pretty off topic. Good luck with your bet hope it goes well for you.
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03-22-2019 , 04:46 PM
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Where do u live
in the USA so I'm somewhat limited.
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03-22-2019 , 09:34 PM
Bellator 218 Risk $253.16

Valentin Moldavsky (-127) vs Linton Vassell $253.16 for $200.00
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03-22-2019 , 10:07 PM
LFA 62 Risk $229.87

Ahment Kayretli (+117) vs Levi Mowles $100.00 for $117.00

Casey Kenney (-130) vs Vincent Cachero $129.87 for $100.00
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03-22-2019 , 11:18 PM
nitrogen is your best bet. pinnacle lines and fast withdrawals. you need bitcoin though, but that shouldn't be too hard. there's a lot of us-facing books you can use though. decent list here

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-sites/

I think us-facing is the default here with your ip, but make sure you check that box on the left side.
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