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Khabib makes it so hard to like him despite me wanting to because he's made me so much money i'm probably going to cheer for Conor despite his bus rampage now unless I end up with a bet on Khabib

People have been condescending for years now, Poirier, Mendes, Aldo, Alvarez...

You can bet your account against a simple minded like me if you want, have the mods agree to ban the loser. Easy win for you and you shut my mouth.

Since that guy will lose his balls, this bet is open to anyone who wants it

Well done Jim.

Ended up adding Bandejas myself mainly based on the fact that I think Gallagher is a cocky prick. Nice to see him get hit with the sweet chin music and finished.

I thought that was a good point raised that Al Iaquinta went the distance vs Khabib

Every one knows in their heart of hearts if Conor fought Al he would KO him.

Khabib is not going to come in and dominate conor in the first two rounds, Khabib could win but for 100% it wont be by KO or by grab a hold and rag doll soon as you please sir, those days are long behind.

When your a fighter like conor and you know your foe has 1, count it 1 way to beat you, that makes it difficult for a one trick pony.

You have to be very careful with a guy like conor that has the whole spectrum and also mentality and ethos beyond professional.

Khabib can take the hardest of conor, but in the 3th can he, if he tires and 80% of his take down attempts have been stopped and he is winded himself, what is he going to do then.

The thing about conor is he is a difficult nut to crack, nate did it by taking the hardest shots conor could land and pacing himself in a way conor had never seen.


No one, even Khabib, is just snap coming into the cage and trying to go body to body as a go to and whittling down one of the greatest fighters in modern history.

Demian Maia for all his brilliance, at the end of the day joe rogan roasted his arse that he could take him self to the highest level of the game and push for the belt with out striking, kicks. Khabib striking is lacking.

You start shipping huge units on Khabib you need to post your logic, your
thoughts, your business plain for how he beats conor.

Conor has the option of landing blows between 10% and 80% power... and adjustment for speed. You are talking about an untouchable fighter if he wants it that way, if forced he will see you but see you lit up with some thing horrific as the payment for stepping in, there are parts of the body you don't want to be hit with by a professional martial artist,


A professional gambler would bet this fight by hedge, this is not a straight up winner bet, its too close. The ITD is a lock imo.

This is going to be a huge fight, conor is going to come in off the camp of his life, this is his bogey man and every one including him knows it.

It’s a lot easier to secure a takedown than it is to score a one shot KO. And getting GNP’d by someone like Khabib is exhausting, I wouldn’t count on Conor’s KO power being there after Rd1, yes he stopped Mendes but Mendes was gassed and Khabib is a different animal. Also I think thinking in terms of narratives like “He’s going to have the camp of his life” is dangerous and counterproductive. It’s a fight and anything can happen but if they fought 3 times I would expect Khabib to win at least twice.

No one is talking about how much sharper Conor's hands are going to be after that Mayweather camp & fight. You already have a guy with the sharpest punching precision in MMA pre-Mayweather fight. That IQ isn't going to go away. The true xfactor is the freakish strength of Khabib in relation to the 155 division. Conor knows this and I guarantee he has been strength training in addition to bringing in Jordan Burroughs to help with the wrestling. As he gets stronger and sharper with the take down defense, that added power is going to turn into more punching power and that's how you equalize Khabib. Conor's fight IQ is so sharp that he knows Khabib will bring the pressure forward, regardless of how many times he gets tagged. With his hands being sharper than ever, I see Conor catching him on a takedown attempt and stoppage by punches 2nd round. I don't see a situation where Khabib finishes Conor. MMA judges are so bad that even if Khabib controls much of the fight on the ground, but Conor has the edge in striking, Conor will get the decision.

how can james krause beat warlley alves?

funny that you say that...i convince myself earlier tonight that it could happen lol with a lot of commitments & luck lol
in all seriousness, kraus a durable guy that dont get hit clean (as far as i remember loli didnt renew my ufcfightpass membership)...i feel if he work the body early, lots of changing level ,grinding and survive 2 rounds of world-class beating, then he might have a better cardio in the 3rd and take advantage of it ! if you are looking for a major upset on that card like i do ,i maybe completely out of lines too lol
im all in betting on tennis these days

i don't see it, krause isn't really a cardio guy himself.

this is mma m8...if nobody think that kraus can beat alves they wouldnt even make the matchup !

lol wtf is that weak ****

loser has 3 months after the fight to travel to Dublin/Makhachkala and record a video of himself standing in an easily verifiable popular location in a broad daylight yelling "Conor/Khabib is my daddy!" 10 times

failure to produce a video by deadline results in a $5K fine payable to victor

qtb and we will work out escrow

LOL. Plan to beat Conor, are you serious??? Mendez ragdolled him for 2 straight rounds, and he had 10 days notice and is not even close to Khabib level in just about everything. This **** has to strop ffs!

Nate destroyed him on 10 days notice too. Mendez would of done the same had he Nate's cardio.

You talk about a 1 trick pony in Khabib, are you this deluded to think Conor has anything other than a left hand. If you are talking more well rounded fighter, I think you have to give it to Khabib.

This **** is too funny, Khabib takes down everybody, yet you think that Conor can defend those take downs???? You mean like he defended those of Mendez, right?? Owhhh wait you only watched the take downs defends when Chad was all gassed out, yeah Conor looked good stopping those, but you have to be 1 deluded sob to not see how or why Conor was able to defend those!

The only way Conor wins this is by fluke ko or some kind of nonsense were Khabib throws his game plan out the window and trades with him, I don't see either happening. We'll see what happens, however if I'd had to pick a scenario that might be more plausible I'd go with the latter, I think Khabib might be prone to ego problems, he seems like the kind of ***** that will actually deviate from his game plan, because Conor hurt his little ***** ego.

Time will tell though. Conor might get it done because Khabib's ego will prevent him from beating Conor, unless the whole Artem thing and the "I wanna fight you anywhere, send me location" type of comments are just purely promoting the fight on his end and he has no intentions outside the ring, then I see Khabib winning.

But if he serious about those comments and actions, then I think he too is going to fight too emotional and we all know what happens when you fight emotional.

We;ll see though, I don't think Conor has it in him to beat a Khabib that shows up and plans to take him down and ground and pound him. No way in hell, the only way would be an Also fluke, what's the possibility of that happening again?

I mean come on ffs, Mendez got him down multiple times and controlled him, Conor could not get up. Only once Mendez started tiring was Conor able to get back up and even defend. But do you really see Conor outworking Khabib, i mean come on ffs, the guy is 1 of the best at cardio, he takes everybody down at will and pounds their head in..

He destroyed RDA, who in turn destroyed Nate, who in turn choked Conor out and made him look like an average bum in the 2nd fight, i mean ffs, are we really even discussing this ****??

You think Conor can go 5 rounds with Khabib? He could barely go 5 rounds with Nate and that was all stand up, imagine grappling,wrestling and clinching, **** imagine a guy at 185 pounds laying on you, for 3 rounds and pounding your face in, you think Conor gunna have cardio after that? What the **** are you guys smoking?

Stuff that doesn't make me this angry.

And nobody is talking about it because it's negligible, it will barely be noticable. I heard some ****** on Youtube state that Conor would be twice as good after the Floyd camp, htf are you going to be that much better? It doesnt work like that, you learn and improve fastest at a very young age, 1 camp isn't going to do much at all for you, once you are an adult and have learned all the trade already. He was already very good at boxing, the floyd match won't have nearly as much of an impact as you think it will.

5-10% max on his boxing ability, if that!

More like stuff that makes you deluded to the point of talking complete nonsense. Lay of the drugs buddy.

"Drugs", "Buddy"
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And you don't see Khabib finding a finish, what??? He can finish him several different ways, and if anything this fight will end in a finish.

The 1 trick pony can finish him by 100 different submissions, by ground and pound tko, by ko (less likely) and by what I think will happen the towel after being mauled by the bear and the bear refusing to sub him, and Conor has no option to tap, so then towel, the first towel in the history of MMA!

How exactly can Conor finish, owhhh yeah by a 1 trick pony shot.....Hmmmmmm

i think khabib will win too, but its far from a lock imo

khabib didnt even finish AL iaquinta whos barely a top 15 LW. in fact al stopped his takedowns later lol.

I wouldn't look too much into his last fight, he tends to fight differently vs different guys. He does like to see and test his stand up game in the ring and sometimes it hurts him a bit, think MJ for example.

Don't think he will try with Conor at all, perhaps after he has beaten him up a good amount for a few rounds and he knows conor can't hurt him anymore, you see him do that so often.

Conor hasn't fought in over 2 years, something to consider as well. MMA is never a lock bet imo, have seen plenty of upsets. But we are going to get close to even money on Khabib, hard to pass that up imo.

Fili/Johnson steamed down to even money.

I'm on Vick and the under 2½, Fili hedged with Johnson round 1, big on Hill over Casey, small on under 1½ for Barberena/Ellenberger plus Barb KO Sanchez over Perz, big on the under 1½ for Anders/Williams plus Anders round 1, under 2½ for Alves/Krause & Alves KO, backing underdog Alcantara against Sandhagen, on underdog Moraga vs Figueiredo, on Yahya over Sanders & Yahya sub, underdog Faria over Calderwood, Dober as a favorite over Tuck, small on the under 1½ for Gall Sullivan plus Gall sub.

Also took 5 units on Conor at +160. I think he'll be prepared for Khabib despite it being a hard fight. And if I change my mind later, the price will have moved well in my favor I think so I will be able to get Khabib for much better price, mathematically made even better by having some on Conor at that early price.

Gonna wait for weigh ins now I guess since it's steaming against and i want to make sure no news of a Johnson injury or anything. I kinda want Yahya but haven't had time to watch the tape to make sure it's not a bad stylistic matchup which it seems likely to be. I may end up just passing this card idk

Also, Ferguson/Pettis added to 229, mandatory we get a Ferguson fight on 229 so I like it since he can step in if Conor or Khabib gets injured and save the supercard so i'm very happy with that. Any combo of those three fighting is amazing and I want to see all three possible fights during their careers at least once. Also means we can probably have a post co-main call out and a post main event staredown if Ferguson's on the card and wins (and I guess if Pettis beats him he's #1 contender by default)

I'm kind of considering Conor too just because I feel like casuals steam him like they did vs Floyd and I think a fair line is Khabib being a small fav. Conor really is next level standing against him, but Khabib will maul Conor on the ground and will get him down each round unless he gasses or Conor can start landing on him at will from the first minute

Just put your account where your mouth is.