Lol never heard of them referred to that before

It's pretty easy to see why DJ doesn't want that fight, though I hope it happens for the sake of betting. The line would probably be hovering around Dillashaw as a slight favorite, whereas I think he should be in the -250 range. Dillashaw is pretty much the most impossible guy to grapple, and I don't see how DJ would win the striking.

To be honest i'd expect DJ to open as a small favourite even though I think TJ is a favourite too (although probably not -250 level)

At the end of the day breaking Anderson's title defense record is Mighty Mouse's legacy; if he's not a draw now he never will be and he's only going to make bank as long as he has the title (I mean he's not making Conor money but he's making over 1m a year still if he fights 3x a year). He doesn't want the TJ fight because he's scared he might lose.

The only plus from a UFC marketing standpoint is that because Cody has said he can make 125, the UFC could market it as a champion vs champion fight and whoever wins their first fight would either be a 2 division champ, or have a claim to be #1 contender to the other belt to become a 2 division champ. I'm not sure either Cody or TJ quite has the charisma to be a two division Conor style draw but they'd then have piles of contenders at both BW and FLW so there's a chance either of them could become a draw if they got on a winning streak as they're both exciting fighters. There's a legitimate chance Conor is done after the Floyd fight if he doesn't care about his legacy and was only ever in it for the money and the UFC will desperately need new draws in the lighter weight classes. Holloway, Cody and TJ could all be a draw with the right marketing (Cruz too promo wise but Cruz's fighting style isn't casual friendly even though I love his fights). I'm surprised more UFC fighters don't take promo classes from pro wrestlers, not everyone can be Chael Sonnen or Conor but the guy begging for a bonus and talking about how he'll fight whoever the UFC puts in front of him next isn't going to be the next big thing. It always baffles me when the fighters don't call out a higher ranked opponent who is a good stylistic matchup for them, or someone they have personal beef with (real or wolf tickets) so they can sell a rivalry.

I always thought TJ needed to 'turn heel' so to speak but after this TUF season I disagree, he comes across as the good guy and a sane, logical fighter who cares about his team as opposed to Cody who is basically angry neck tattoo dumbass. All they need to do with TJ is to put him up against TAM guys and sell the rivalry, there's enough footage from this TUF season alone to sell the Cody fight, the UFC really dropped the ball not making the Faber fight and using Faber at the end of his career as a tool to get TJ over (obviously TJ would have destoyed him as Faber was past his prime by the time of their rivalry). Cruz is just a better trash talker than TJ, but TJ is getting better and actually holding his own and even making TAM look like clowns on the current TUF season. If Cody goes on a big run destroying people he could definitely be a star as a heel especially if he turns the angry douchebag thing he has going on up to 11, I know I personally can't wait to see him lose.

It's a shame that Buchholz vs Bang Ludwig couldn't happen to further the TAM vs Elevation rivalry as even though neither guy is UFC level at this point due to Bang being retired and Buchholz coming off multiple losses they're in the same weight class and i'd watch it after this TUF season.

Cody vs TJ when it finally happens should be one of the highest level fights of all time in any weight class.

Can you blame him though? Do you think Mayweather has a standin for McGregor? These are professional fighters, they don't train for 2 fighters, they train for 1. Also like you say, there's nothing to be gained, only loss if either fighter wins.
DJ wins, great, TJ just lost at a lower weight class so the steam from TJ Cody is lost.
TJ wins? Yeah, he's not going to keep fighting at that weight class, he'll move up and we'll have the Conor / Aldo situation, where DJ will fight for the belt against someone like Borg and win. But wait, now DJ's only draw, him being the best p4p fighter with the most title defenses is gone.

LOL why would my post get deleted??

I'd assume because you only post in this thread to insult everyone. No, I didn't get your post deleted, but i'm not surprised it was given it both contained inaccurate information (no, blanket betting underdogs does not show an overall profit in MMA although it's better than blanket betting favourites and as far as I recall the prop didn't actually end up taking place over a series of events, it either didn't happen or was for a single card from memory) and it insulted everyone who posts here. Were you really that proud of it? Why do you even post in this thread if you don't like MMA and just want to insult everyone who posts in this thread?

@Swiftx you make a good point, if there's any chance Cody is healthy by the end of the year they need to just re-book the TJ/Cody fight. BW is pretty exciting at the moment with a bunch of options up next for either guy if they win. Rivera/Almeida winner vs Cruz for the next title shot would make sense although it might remove a contender unnecessarily as Cruz could get a title shot straight up if TJ wins since he beat him and if Cody wins he probably only needs a single win over a top 10 guy to justify a rematch. Assuncao and Moraes are in the mix too, Caraway, Lineker/Dodson/Barao/Sterling in the tier below that, even Munhoz is a solid prospect.

Sounds like a description of a posting forum to me

Dana should just let DJ fight Borg, have him break the record and then get rid of the division lol.

No, don't blame him at all - I 100% agree, and he shouldn't have to put up with that.

It's one thing when a fight falls apart at the last minute for whatever reason and they scramble to find a replacement so everyone can still fight and get paid. But saying that's what you're going to do from the outset because, even months out, you've got real concerns over whether the guy can make the weight? That's garbage.

Bellator 180 NYC lines out on 5Dimes.

I bet Bader for 2u at +110 vs Davis and Wanderlei 1u at +110 against Sonnen as well as Mitrione over Fedor at -150 to win 1u. I actually like a lot of the unders on this card: 1u each at +100 and -110 on the under 1½ of Sonnen/Silva- Sonnen is a quitter and I hope Wanderlei knocks him out or maybe Sonnen gets an early submission or ground & pound.

1u Machida/Gallagher under 2½ at +110 thinking it ends in a Gallagher tap or Machida KO; 1u Chandler/Primus under 3½ at +100 expecting Chandler to KO his opponent and 0.5u Gracie/Marfone under 1½ at -140 expecting a Gracie round 1 sub.

mittrione -115 on 888 poker
just got a unit on it
really wanna put more on it
but am wussy haha

Backed Mitrione at 1.95. I do favour him in this fight and seeing money come in on 5dimes and Pinnacle made my mind up.

Even though Chael Sonnen looked bad against Tito. I do think his style of fighting favours an aging fighter compared to Silva's brawling style. Got him at 1.73 so that is pretty good compared to the current line at 5 dimes.

Pretty tempted by Douglas Lima at 2.5. Looks good at first glance but need to watch his last few fights again.

Nice job getting the 1.95 on meathead
Where'd you find that price?

Sportingbet, Marathonbet a Russian based bookie actually have meathead as the underdog.

You should write another whiny novel that no one will read

Swoop is an A+ contributor to the thread, while you're a know-nothing non-entity.

hahaha I'm a "non-entity"? I've never been called that before.

Aren't you the guy that bets like 20 bucks each bet and everyone sucks your .0001 ROI dick?

Like, I believe I speak for all of the regular contributors to this thread when I say you're contributing nothing of value to this thread and please either contribute useful MMA-related analysis or post your MMA bets if you want to post in this thread or take your trolling to the low content thread where Thremp and the millionaires club could use some company.

Anybody thinking about backing BJ Penn?

I know he has looked like crap in his last few fights. But Frankie is a beast and not a guy you want to fight after a few years off and Yair was always a really bad matchup.

Siver seems like a much more suitable opponent. People always raved about Penn's ground game and to my knowledge is still training at Jackson-Wink. At odds of around 3.0 I its worth a shot.

I was going to take Siver if he was a dog due to how washed up BJ is whereas despite them being the same age Siver hasn't shown the same level of decline. That said, Siver was never as good in the first place.

If I had to guess Siver is a small fav, but i'd rather have Penn at +200 than Siver at -200 if I had to pick. I'd guess Siver is something like a -150 favourite but there are so many unknowns. There's no way BJ's cardio lasts 3 rounds, but it could last 2 and if he can get Siver down he should be able to choke him out a lot. I doubt he can compete on the feet anymore, he's completely fallen off the cliff with his striking. His failure to implement changes to his gameplan or get coaches who aren't yes-men in his corner mean I have no confidence in him at all anymore.

I'm probably going to just stay away from it. If I had to take Penn i'd consider Penn by sub as I don't see him winning any other way (I guess he could win a 29-28 winning the first 2 rounds too)

This fight will tell us whether Penn has any business fighting any more I guess. If it's a competitive fight sure he can hang with lower to mid UFC level guys, if he gets beaten down he's done.

BJ penn is done, s o its too risky for me haha. id take siver if the money is ok.

when I look down the Floyd Mayweather Jr v Conor McGregor - Total Rounds Betting Odds, I look down at under 10.5 I am getting empty Irish countryside running through my head.

An inside tip from me on Floyd is this....

Floyd "let", Mosley fight on and hang in there, that is to say in the later rounds, Mayweather with out any shadow of a dought let shane hang in the ring with him when he was done properly.

Conor is a brute and is going to bring it but its like the Spanish bull fighting, what happens with the bull, for what reason.

As far as I am concerned this is legit free money as is possible.

You can not go from being a legit full scale leathel weapon MMA fighter to a dedicated fast twitch muscle schooled boxer, IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT.

You would have to be one of the most gifted natural boxers that had ever lived and Mayweather would still own you past the 4-5-6.

From what I understand Mayweather is continuing on trucking on, girls a plenty as and when? food / training / looking out for easy bread.

Conor is going to get nothing flash done a simple right hand, clean, his chin is going to move a small distance but very fast.

Floyd is a little bulldog that scaled back the weaponary but he is a hurtful fighter that knows all about human anatomy just like Tyson, he has underrated power and the less well timed his opponent the more window of opportunity he allows him to unload picture perfect weighted punches, which he wont just step in and load up on in the 9th or some thing, it will be a testing of the waters, cracking him I the 1st, 2nd,3rd, just another to gauge his chin, huge hurtful body shots and step backs in the 4th, allowance of conor to display his fitness but its not going to count for a hill of jelly beans.

We love any thing close to evens on the under 9.5 here, this is a bet you wait your whole life to unload on.

In boxing offense is as important as defense because as long as you are in there unless the other fighter is completely neutralized you are better of putting the other guy to sleep.

Mayweather is going to want Conor out of there because with out question he is dangerious and allowance to continue will be more risky than the huge advantage he will have to step, in spots, and end conor.


Mayweather is not going to get any extra money or any extra credit for taking conor to the 12th, which no one knows if Connor could even do, he is a 5 round cage trained fighter and Diaz smashed him under pressure, What do we think Floyd is going to do once his timings come into play (will be evident right from the 1st quarter of the 1st round).

This is a freak event, we bet the most obvious of outcomes, a flash fluke conor upset in r1,r2 and Mayweather under 9.5 / 10.5.

Make money off the event, don't make a house, but we make money off this event, I am going to add more, the books holding better odds my accounts are closed due to degen poker account closures.





Ninja edit;

Adding a little more:

Hi All,

I am a newb at betting and I have a question. I am a professional MMA fighter and have a fight in October. Never bet before, but i want to bet this one. Do you think it is ok? (will i have any problems and where to bet?) I want to bet a significant amount

Well if you're betting against yourself that's match fixing and illegal so obviously don't do that

If you're betting on yourself then I think it's morally fine as long as the bet's straight up to win (given it wouldn't affect the fight from a match fixing persepctive if your bet is on yourself to win straight up) and not any sort of a prop that would affect the fight - it'd be easy enough to bet under a friend/acquaintance's name anyway and i'd imagine it would be unwise PR wise to bet under your own name assuming you're betting on yourself. From memory Tito Ortiz used to bet on himself in his fights, at least I think I read something about that.

What org is the fight in and what country are you based in, might be able to let you know which books are likely to offer lines on the card you're on.

All of the big orgs (UFC Bellator WSOF One Rizin etc) should have odds widely available, the inbetween sized ones like Venator/Legacy/etc should have lines at some books but not a lot.

Also by a significant amount do you mean hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands? If it's tens of thousands you may have trouble getting that much down unless you're fighting in one of the big orgs

I would strongly advise to ask or read up on what the rules of the organization you fight in are, in regards to sports betting rules.

In British soccer, it's a 'blanket ban' on any kind of betting on soccer. I have seen one or two MMA fighters flash winning tickets on Twitter as to what MMA fights they've bet on but I have no idea if it's actually allowed or not.

A 'best' worst case scenario? Get someone close to you to place bets for you in their name but your money.