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Originally Posted by stoffmakers
the exact point of disconnect is that people think mikhel is attacking them when all hes doing is trying to save them/make them more money for whatever reason I don't know. I'm also one of the 'chat room millionaires' and I rarely give out advice or picks because unless people understand the #process and numbers behind the bets it doesnt matter if they are the ****ing fighter they cant properly handicap and win longterm.
Look, I don't even have a that big problem with *******s, but he's an ******* clearly. I don't have a judgment on his overall helpfulness, I don't want to run anyone off or have anyone banned. This started in the mma thread where many casuals have a good time by adding their enjoyment of watching a sport they follow. There has never been a single post that touches on the high level that professional sports bettors would, because there is not a single person there who is doing it for a living afik. It's a hobby.
I understood the points these guys were making, even as their motives were unclear--nobody asked. This isn't a case of anyone coming into their discussion saying they are wrong. They came in and applied their standards to hobbiests who are doing something different than they are. If they REALLY wanted to help these guys with some of their knowledge they could have done that easily and pleasantly. That's not what they did.
It is not that hard to understand...the point being made is using incomplete information and biased analysis shared in that thread is suboptimal for making $. Clear enough. Demonstrating how the information used such as arrival at altitude is imperfect. Fair. Modeling, which I don't even pretend to understand is the only way to actually be successful at sports betting long term and these guys do just that. I learned something.
Now here is what was not learned. When Jimm says "you didn't even watch the fight" and thresh says "why would I" you have the crux of the issue. Jimm and the mma fans are sports fans, not sharps. They are motivated by something different. It's not stupid. It's different. If there are some tips to share that would add to their experience, by all means.
I'm sure being a millionaire is fun. Enjoy it. Being a mma fan and making bets based on knowledge of the sport and even imperfect information is also fun.
Trolling and being an ******* is fun too, as is arguing with them.
This place is great. Unbunch all undies.