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wow what a treat this morning!

Who knew such whackiness was going on in the MMA thread?

So is this Jim Gun bet thing happening? Its hard to follow the conversation, it looked like it was locked in but now Im not so sure.

Also, whats the allegation against this Jim guy? Again, its hard to follow, but I think I saw allegations that he ****s around with his prices and post picks way after making them when the lines has moved his way. Is that about right?

02-04-2017 , 01:12 PM

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Johnny Truant

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Not really. It is a casual thread where people had a lot of fun for years talking mma bets and theory. Jimm has posted his plays more completely than most before and after events purely as a labor of love.

Some big swinging dicks pros, or one and his minions, or some combo of gimmicks came in to **** on the lack of professionalism in the thread with some implied allegations that jimm could not prove his success based on his record keeping. He was never trying to prove anything and nobody ever asked him to before. This started talk of a prop bet around Jimm's prowess that evolved without him being involved or as it turns out, particularly interested in participating in for pride or money as he never did get sucked into the need to put up.

People got sick of the braggarts and their cryptic, insulting attention seeking posts with no content, gave them ample opportunity to join in a constructive way and explained what that would be. Mods pruned.

That's how I saw it anyway.

02-04-2017 , 01:16 PM

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Mihkel05

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That is a mildly amusing and rather delusional summary.

02-04-2017 , 01:43 PM

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Nick Diaz

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JT I saw your posts about that ****ing bully dad sending you a picture of him and your daughter to try to start some drama.

I swear to God I would have been at that party with a baseball bat faster than he could put his phone in his pocket.

I really hope you teach that guy a lesson, he should not be going near your wife and daughter the way he has been doing. If you are really afraid he will beat you bring someone else, this is totally justifyable, that guy should no be using your daughter for this

02-04-2017 , 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mihkel05

That is a mildly amusing and rather delusional summary.

Not surprised you have a different view. The fact that you won't explain how or why you disagree like a normal person in favor of insults and assertions is appreciated this time, however, because I don't really give a **** what you think about it.

02-04-2017 , 01:52 PM

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Mihkel05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

Not really. It is a casual thread where people had a lot of fun for years talking mma bets and theory. Jimm has posted his plays more completely than most before and after events purely as a labor of love.

Some big swinging dicks pros, or one and his minions, or some combo of gimmicks came in to **** on the lack of professionalism in the thread with some implied allegations that jimm could not prove his success based on his record keeping. He was never trying to prove anything and nobody ever asked him to before. This started talk of a prop bet around Jimm's prowess that evolved without him being involved or as it turns out, particularly interested in participating in for pride or money as he never did get sucked into the need to put up.

People got sick of the braggarts and their cryptic, insulting attention seeking posts with no content, gave them ample opportunity to join in a constructive way and explained what that would be. Mods pruned.

That's how I saw it anyway.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

Not surprised you have a different view. The fact that you won't explain how or why you disagree like a normal person in favor of insults and assertions is appreciated this time, however, because I don't really give a **** what you think about it.

Seems legit bro.

02-04-2017 , 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

Seems legit bro.

Yeah I also insult. It's still dead accurate.

02-04-2017 , 02:14 PM

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Really? Could you quote the series where the "implied allegations" against Jimm start?

I'm sure its "dead accurate".

02-04-2017 , 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

Really? Could you quote the series where the "implied allegations" against Jimm start?

I'm sure its "dead accurate".

Nah. You give me your summary and we can pick that apart instead.

02-04-2017 , 02:20 PM

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Mihkel05

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JT,

Glad to see that you agree that you made a bunch of **** up! Thanks for lacing it with a bunch of weird insults that make you seem like a hypocrite in addition to a liar btw.

02-04-2017 , 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

JT,

Glad to see that you agree that you made a bunch of **** up! Thanks for lacing it with a bunch of weird insults that make you seem like a hypocrite in addition to a liar btw.

Cute. Ineffective, but nice try. Wipe your spittle and find someone who cares about what you think 1/10 as much as you do.

02-04-2017 , 02:47 PM

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Oh. I was just mocking your "dead accurate" summary. I'm sure most people won't bother to even read that drivel since the MMA thread is just now like a boil that has burst onto this thread, but w/e.

I guess if you, in earnest, think that you aren't woefully deceptive... I'm sorry?

02-04-2017 , 02:58 PM

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Johnny Truant

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"In earnest....Woefully deceptive". Nice work. Actually made me lol. Cheers.

02-04-2017 , 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mihkel05

Really? Could you quote the series where the "implied allegations" against Jimm start?

I'm sure its "dead accurate".

Here is someone else's interpretation from reading posts.

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Originally Posted by Poogs

Also, whats the allegation against this Jim guy? Again, its hard to follow, but I think I saw allegations that he ****s around with his prices and post picks way after making them when the lines has moved his way. Is that about right?

Here is where you are either (woefully) unclear or (woefully) deceptive.

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

Jimm,

Great. Normally people keep an accurate record of their lifetime instead of disguising it like you. I guess if you're posting fake lines that is even cooler.

Now woefully gfys.

02-04-2017 , 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

I think they raise relevant questions that I've asked before as well.

Could you point out who in this thread keeps an accurate record? I don't see a single one.

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Originally Posted by JimGunn

Who said no one here keeps accurate records? That's your misunderstanding. I just asked you if YOU keep accurate records since you are challenging everyone else. I'm assuming you must do so if you're making a big point of it right?

But in actuality, you've never even posted a single combat sports bet here to my knowledge, so maybe there are no records to keep. At least with me and a few of the other regulars here you can read our posts with a detailed list of bets pre-fight plus late or live bets added during the cards with the risk and odds and potential payouts listed. But you have posted absolutely nothing, right? So what position does that put you in to challenge anyone? Just playing Devil's Advocate?

I've even gone so far as to pretty consistently post results summaries with my net profit or loss for most of the past couple of years, even color coordinated it red and green to make it easy to read. And believe me, it's a pain in the ass to do that for multiple cards every week, especially now that I'm wagering at a few different sportsbooks and not just betting in dollars but also more often lately with Bitcoin. It's a time consuming and tedious process, but I do it for my own private spreadsheets to the penny or to the eight decimal place BTC so I know where I'm at.

I'm a bit behind this month with making those long ass detailed and color coordinated summaries since I was out of town on business for at least one week this month. But I have my results calculated to the exact penny or BTC in any case.

My summarized results for 2017 so far- I've posted pretty much all my MMA and kickboxing bets here in the thread, except for the boxing wagers which I posted under my same user name on multiple forums elsewhere:

UFC 103 $435.90
UFC on Fox 23 -$236.75 and +0.022 BTC
Bellator 170 $755.00 and -0.010 BTC (Thanks Tito!)
Bellator 171 -$35.54 and +0.42193 BTC
Invicta FC 21 $300.00 and + 0.18819 BTC
LFA 2 -$50.00
Titan FC 43 $40.00
Glory 37 -$10.00 and +0.1188 BTC
Lara vs Formeman +0.053 BTC
Jack vs DeGale $651.00 and -0.029 BTC
Frampton vs Santa Cruz II $334.00 and +0.223 BTC
Miura vs Roman $100.00

So for 2017 so far I'm at +$2,303.61 and +1.07802000 BTC which is worth about $995 at today's Coinbase rate.

I'm just a recreational bettor who does this for fun, not a tout or advocating that anyone tail me. I've got nothing to prove to anyone really, but I do my best to be transparent with other MMA bettors. Any posters who have been reading the thread for a while can make up their own mind if they want to listen to random **** talkers who never bothered to post a single bet.

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

Jimm,

Great. Normally people keep an accurate record of their lifetime instead of disguising it like you. I guess if you're posting fake lines that is even cooler.

I didn't watch the fight (why would I?). I was just pointing out that your thesis is flawed and fundamentally incorrect. Hypoxic training is well understood (just not by you). The idea that you can suss out altitude acclimation by looking at tweets shows how little you understand about the subject. But you post writeups! That is great!

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Originally Posted by romaleo1

jim why dont you post your bets as you make them, instead of afterwards at lines no longer available...

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Originally Posted by JimGunn

That's a lot of extra hassle to be cutting and pasting as many as dozens of bets I make throughout the week in advance of a typical UFC card one by one or a few at a time as I make them at random times throughout the week from morning until night. Is it really that hard to believe that a guy who has Best Fight Odds as his home page and Firefox browser set to auto-fresh every five minutes on one of the several screens in his home office often gets good prices on the lines?

Sometimes I guess wrong of course and get stuck with a lame price, but betting right at the opener, somewhere in the middle where you think the peak may be or betting right before the fight as the line moves significantly is yet another one of the black arts of turning a profit gambling. That and having a few books where the prices vary so you're shopping for the best line at all times. It all adds up if you make a lot of bets like I do just like using coupons or taking advantage of BOGOs at the grocery store adds up if you buy a lot of household items.

I don't think we have ever established if you're an MMA bettor, romaleo1? Do you wager on MMA too, or do you see your role as more of an ombudsman who just makes sure others are betting correctly, lol? As much as it would help turn this thread into a long and halfway unreadable mess, I'd probably be willing to laboriously post each bet individually or in groups at the time I make them if you were willing to do the same with your bets.

BTFO.

02-04-2017 , 04:01 PM

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Johnny Truant

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I was there, dude. You either lack the ability to communicate your intent, or have a severely impaired level of introspection. Maybe you are just so much smarter than average you are truly unable to dumb it down for the masses, and I don't say that factiously, but when combined with the rest of your content you simply come off as a narcissistic ******* a lot of the time.

Do what you want with this opinion. As for this topic, let's say you were right and I was wrong and move on with our lives.

02-04-2017 , 04:07 PM

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Mihkel05

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I find it strange that you would intentionally lie in your summary.

I guess you're just trying to fit in with the rest of the posters in that thread who indulge in a variety of shady behavior? Posting fake lines, inflating their records, and just outright fabrication?

02-04-2017 , 04:17 PM

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Johnny Truant

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Originally Posted by Mihkel05

A lie always includes intent by definition. Intentionally lie is redundant. Not only is it true, but if it were false due to misunderstanding it wouldn't be a lie.

And you are correct about the word I intended to use. That's because it's very, very easy to understand my points even with autocorrect mishaps. You should put as much effort into being that clear as you do trying to look smart. You are failing at both regularly.

02-04-2017 , 04:25 PM

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Mihkel05

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Simple minds have simple thoughts. It really is no more difficult than that tbh.

02-04-2017 , 04:44 PM

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Poogs

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lol this is hilarious

whats this about daughters and fighting?

02-04-2017 , 08:54 PM

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stoffmakers

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10-25 plo poker table talk 2 nights ago.

asian kid: you coulda bet hillary to win the election with her to have an affair while in office parlay
me: where
him: pinny
me: def not
him: i saw it w my own eyes
me: your eyes saw wrong
him: ill bet ur whole stack (17k) on it
me: forget my stack, lets bet 100k on it
him: ok lets do this
me: how we gonna prove this
him: i dunno forget it i dont feel like arguing ur right my eyes are wrong wtvr
sighhhhh

02-04-2017 , 09:01 PM

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stoffmakers

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also if you guys listened to mikhel more (like I did whenever I started my act on here), you could be one of the chat room millionaires like him and I too

02-04-2017 , 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stoffmakers

also if you guys listened to mikhel more (like I did whenever I started my act on here), you could be one of the chat room millionaires like him and I too

The exact point of disconnect is the assumption that the people in that thread, or everyone else in general, aspire to that goal and are failing at it.