Do you think everyone who wins is the better fighter?

There isn't a chance that a less skilled fighter can win?

Every match in MMA has been won by the better fighter?

There is odds for a reason right?

So you are coming here in a sportsbetting mma thread telling people that betting in mma is stupid?

No?

I'm telling you guys the way you think about betting is stupid

If you don't even have basic understanding of where your profits come from then it's just stupid to continue the practice

much better to keep your money in the bank

How about you come back with some selections and reasoning for the next card?
Otherwise dont bother posting again because all you have done is waste forum space.

It's like I'm talking to a brick wall.

The reason for what?

The only thing that matters in this game are the odds.

You are literally just saying words. Goodbye.

of course not but usually yes. we still have to try our best to figure out if a fighter will win enough times to cover the odds. I mean when I place a bet do I know my guy will win no but I feel he has enough of a chance of winning. No I might even horrible wrong a lot of the time but no i'm not trying to be miss cleo

you sound a super derp, no offense if you are actually autistic or something.

but to say something like "the only thing that matters is the odds" is fragmented advice at best, so many other factors exist in MMA that will determine the outcome.

I predict that no one will like you

Pretty sure everybody in this thread bets purely for VALUE. We all look for value, that's why I bet anyway! If I think the line makes no sense I bet accordingly.

I think you should leave this thread anyways. You are in no position to tell other people how they should bet, whether they are betting for a living or for fun! It's their money, let them bet how they want!

You throw out dumb **** like: Nobody can predict the future, blah blah!!! I mean we all know this! We know our bets are not guaranteed, that's why they are called bets!

Even if there's no value, you can still make a bet if you think your fighter will win. It's not a pre-requisite to bet only when you see value.

Good sports book for Americans? New York

You really think people in this thread bet for value? cmon most people thread don't even know what this **** means

It generally goes something like , I am going to bet X over Y because of this , that , this without even considering odds , market fluctuations , etc

Just a bunch of useless drivel.

What is so hard to understand about this? Bettors don't predict the future because that implies 100% guarantee.

Using your own logic then the best bettors in the world should win at a 100% clip?

lvr no one cares about your ramble mixed with insults we all know that you need your pick to be correct more than 40% of the time at +150, 50% at evens, 60% at -150, 66.66% at -200 etc. in order to be profitable if that's the point you're trying to make we understand that already, if it's something else it's incomprehensible.

lol market fluctuations, now I am sure you are trolling.

We remain mired in a bog of negative variance. We neither gain, nor lose ground. In a perverse way, one wonders if it would not be worse to simply lose and have to retreat. Remaining in the same state every day is difficult on the men, and one smells in the air a hint of ennui. Every day we shell them, and every day they shell us back. Nothing changes. We are dug in.

The past weeks have been somber as Christmas has come and went without us seeing victory, but our shared adversity has brought us closer together. The men fight valiantly, sometimes displaying suicidal bravery. We throw everything we have at them without regard for life or Kelly, and still we have been unable to make a breakthrough. Yet, there is hope. More and more reserves show up at the rear each day. We are waiting upon a document review and once completed, we will march upon the salient in the north. Once that falls, we should be able to retire within a matter of weeks. Oh, curse this weary war. I hope it shall end soon!

Randomness is streaky

I cannot express how much this post saddens me. It reminds me how the TV ratings in sports go to Mike and Mike, First Take, Undisputed, PTI, etc. It's bread and circuses with no underlying substance. Sadly, this group outnumbers those who seek and speak truth out of research and thoughtful consideration. Even worse, is they think they are putting in the time into thought.

I cannot express enough how Thremp (and the rest of you who I will not name but have met me irl) helped me obtain the life of my dreams. I'm not living the top 1% of possible outcomes, but I'm surely in the top 5% of what I could get after some obstacles earlier in life. They had no financial reason to share with me. They might come off as harsh and bitter, but they are all wonderful people face-to-face. I can only hope the couple of contributions I gave back made their exchanges with me worthwhile.

In conclusion, the mob, thus far, has always tried to make the elite take the hemlock. F the mob.

and LOL @ 2p2 mods. Ministry of Truth in full effect with most.
"I don't like that idea, that tone, how uncomfortable that made me feel, etc" I'll ban the person.
Hey, just read past what you don't like. It's not like most are deep reading anyway. use your own filter instead of imposing your filter on others. Freedom only works if we extend the privilege to everyone...

2p2 mods have always come across to me as the most ****iest group of little smug bitches... tho prop is cool. I think prop is a robot actually.

I have no idea what forum this idiot lvr thinks he is reading. In an MMA betting forum like this people often post about the odds on moneylines, over/unders and props as well as line movement in addition to talking about the merits of the fight matchups themselves. Not to mention, he doesn't see the irony in coming here out of nowhere and lecturing other forum participants when he himself has contributed absolutely nothing in terms of fight analysis or the kind of metrics he's talking about.

i think what he means is ain't none of y'all making money so what the hell y'all doin'

Do you have a reading problem? I said we get what you are on about. You in return state: What is so hard to understand about this?

You also have a logic problem! Using my logic: You think I said that the best bettors would win 100% of the time? Where the hell did you get that from?

Using my logic: You can conclude that, we all know a bet is NOT a guarantee, that's why it's called a BET!

We (people in this forum) are also poker players too and we are all well aware as poker players how to spot value! This essential tool can be used across a broad spectrum of sports and games.

How would some random who came by a few days ago know what anyone else is making either in their jobs or businesses or in the pastime of sports betting?

Question for NBA bettors that Ill prob get flamed for... how do you guys come up with minutes played projections? Using an average doesnt seem quite right. I feel like I see a lot of guys who play something like 33 minutes most nights, but every 5 or so games theyll play like 26 mins. That brings their average down to something like 30, 31, but you end up on the lower end more often than not. Would median be better? Im not sure how I would even get that without manually doing it which isnt really an option considering how long that would take. Right now Im sort of just coming up with my own number looking at their season and last 10 game avg and making adjustments myself, which works fine, but I know I could do better. Any thoughts?

You aren't sure how to come up with a median from a list of #'s?

As for the minutes. It's probably more specific matchup's with certain teams. Follow all the writers for each team on twitter and figure out who is going to play more/less than normal each game.