Boss, tomatoe placed one bet. That was on Sunday night. Seattle was the Sunday night game iirc. He never logged in again, which you told me you could see on the site. You never mentioned anything about the bet not counting. You never mentioned anything about free plays or partial payments. You said you were going to pay and the settle up date was Tuesday. You kept making excuses as the Tuesday settle up deadline passed. All of a sudden the story changed to tomatoe had done something wrong by betting 750 on an NFL team total, by only placing one bet and he wasn't getting paid a dime. Please just stop. This is all recorded on chat.

two weeks minimum is fine. if either party has to miss a few days in between it shouldn't matter since it's units won differential. there are no min/max number of bets.

i've mostly been doing player points, but any player prop is fine. points/assists/goals YES/NO are all fine with me. i don't think i've seen goalie props.

while it's only $20/unit i can assure you this is dead serious. i've put in enough effort into modeling these that reputations are on the line.

i want the wayne gretsky under he is slumping lately

I have done a million in transfers with 2+2ers over the last 2 months and I turned down the opportunity to do business with Tomatoe despite having a need for his requested swap.

Anyway, Poogsy, if you want more action on your contest with G, I will take his side for whatever amount you want.

But can you really say you turned him down because you don't think he's trustworthy to trade with or because of his conduct in this sub-forum?

ok, ill take you up on that.

You tell me how you want to do it. Id like to do weekly winner gets 1k but I understand the concerns about betting a lot/little on the last day of the week. If you want to just do the same thing we have but at a higher unit dollar amount thats fine too. 100 bucks a unit?

Oh I thought we were only doing player points. How bout only player props, no game props. IE will game go into overtime is not ok but will player x score yes/no is fine.

Let's do this. Glgl.

ok, its on now TomG. You know I want that Iowa money.

Yeah, but since you have zero reputation you had to send first so you had to go with super regs and couldn't have scammed even if you had wanted to. No choice because your rep is non-existent. You can't even bet $500 on credit here. But you are one of thremp's heavy hitters so there's that.

Don't try and make it sound like tomatoe has a bad rep or that you have a positive one. Tomatoe does not have a bad rep. You have no rep at all.

Would be humiliating to a wanna-be like you to have to send first to tomatoe, I understand.

The more I think of this the funnier it is. One ****ing idiot who had absolutely zero reputation in the HSNL transfer thread claims to have bypassed a transfer with tomatoe. How could you transfer with tomatoe, you don't have the rep for that. You would have to send first in a non-transferable method. LOL you guys are such idiots.

For posterity.

Bypass is the wrong word btw. Decline is what you're looking for.

yes correct, only player props not game props.

yesterday i spent hours re-working big parts of my model. i don't backtest so it will be as much of a surprise to me as anyone how it performs.

gl to all involved. i can assure everyone i will never tank nor receive outside assistance in any way. this is serious business.

To be fair Iowa! has participated in small contests over the years on credit and I believe has paid every time to date.

It's not at all surprising that members of the Thremp syndicate would never transact w/ Tomatoe - I'm 90% sure it's part of their bylaws.

I would say w/ some level of certainty that you + Tomatoe have completed many multiples in transactions within the community than the Thremp syndicate so there's no question that your reputation blows their reputations out of the water.

But it doesn't matter because this is 2+2 which is a poker forum and poker players are the dregs of society and don't even count as people.

We believe in you!

If you look at how these guys post, it is clear they have crushingly low self esteem. Iowa and Thremp are constantly writing on here about how big time they are, how much they bet, what contempt they have for the people who are not HEAVY HITTERS.

Once you accept this, their insane ramblings start to make sense.

- Guy with crushingly low self esteem needs to buy bitcoin. Checks HSNL thread. Oh look, tomatoe is selling 30k of btc and wants neteller.

- Tomatoe! we hate that ****ing guy, we've been trying to put him down for years now

- Should we buy from tomatoe? Nobody knows who the **** we are. We have zero rep here. We'll have to send first AND he'll see the name on our account!

Yeah, this is like an existential crisis for these losers. Normal people wouldn't give a ****. I'm pretty sure these guys spend hours chatting about "post-oak" and "tomatoe", and did you see what so and so posted...

I just hope you guys can learn to like yourselves one day. I mean it's funny, but also sad.

You should really get permission from your boss before you post anymore.

Even the avatar you use comes from something I said.

You acted like an *******, taunted a respected poster who had never bothered anyone, called him an "old man", etc. All because you are a little bitch and were jelly that people followed his picks. I had to step in and put you in your place. I guess you felt humiliated. Again, it goes back to the crushingly low self esteem you display in like every ****ing post.

I get why you and thremp are obsessed with me. Sabaneta, I have no idea why he would try and spout lies about tomatoe having a bad rep. I guess it just comes with being in the thremp syndicate. I have seen thremp do terrible things to his "e-friends" so it's only a matter of time till he gets burned anyway.

Senility is a hell of a drug. I don't do anything here besides post facts. Those facts often fly in the face of the world views of known bottom feeders and said bottom feeders lash out.

I'll let the people judge which of the parties has low self esteem.

uh oh, thremp banned

What lies did I say? I have no knowledge of whether bruiser has a good reputation amongst the poker tard community. He probably does, they are all pretty dumb.

I only know what I've seen in this sub-forum, which is a mentally unstable idiot that's been banned over 10 times in the last 2 years, who was stalking rsigley, who begs non stop for handouts, who pmed me non stop asking for help with his ****ty models. Glad to hear this person has a stellar rep, but he seems pretty damn unstable to me.

sab, i dont know why you would talk about a private convo in public. seems like weird behavior to me. but since you bring it up, to get a little clarification on this "non stop" messaging, please state

1)how many times did i pm you
2)how many times did you respond to me
3)how many times did you ask me to never PM you again
4)the average number of PMs i sent to you a day over the time period that we have both been members of this forum

I have no idea, I don't keep messages. And it's entirely possible I've confused some of your handles since you've had more than 10. It's not a problem, just laughing at this supposed stellar rep.

How long did you stalk rsigley?

if you have no idea then please stop lying about me thanks

Come to think of it this entire thing was my fault: