Could you re-tell the story of when these tin-horn gamblers came out to Vegas for a meetup and you soon came to realize they don't actually bet real money?

1. he had about 15 posts here and one of them was saying he is good friends with BL and is considering paying off BL's debts

2. his cited localbitcoin account was in name of BrianL

3. the name he gave is listed on another forum as an alias of BL

4. BL's scams, cited on other forums, usually revolved around setting up a poster with a "local" and then freerolling

For those reasons, I figured we were dealing with the man himself.

Listen, everything Boss says could be 100% true. He says he used to scam with BL and is not proud of it, that they share some accounts and that they are good friends. And that he is not BL. No question that this could all be true.

Boss sent a first payment, so he's been true to his word.

You can ignore all of the thremp nonsense. I skimmed through it. Thremp couldn't bet $200 here on 2p2 if he wanted to. He's a small time bustout who has consistently lied about his betting prowess.

course

Bit off topic but TOMG

Are we still on for our player prop bet? Its looking bad for me right now for being able to get down on these as I just lost a few nice accounts yesterday. So would you have any interest in upping our dollar amount? Id be fine with escrowing some money/just sending it to you if you want. Or perhaps structuring the bet differently as a way to up the stakes?

If not its ok I'm still fine with what we agreed on (20 dollars per unit, correct?)

What if we keep it the same but do 50 bucks a unit overall, and something like 500 bucks a week to whoever is up more units at the end of the week with some sort of min/max unit risked per week?

Curious what you think. These take me a long time to do and Im only going to be able to get down like 2 or 300 bucks each it looks like, so Im looking for anyway to get some more money down.

Also if anyone wants side action against me I would be interested. I'm not even that confident tbh. I know I can beat the lines, not so sure I can beat the infamous TomG as well. But if Im gonna do it might as well have something worthwhile on the line. Let me know what you think Tom!

Please keep the public updated - I have this x-b'd vs someone.

So you admit you were taking a shot?

I dunno Post-Oak. Literally the last bet I placed was for $200. While this isn't quite the same as splitting a $5 ticket like last week, it seems to suffice.

I guess I could cite any of the discussions we've had over the last decade where you get soundly ridiculed for saying absurd and silly things. But ultimately you can believe whatever insane narrative you want. Most people don't want to be confronted with their own mistakes or consider what they've done. Maybe a quick retrospective on the past few years would help you become somewhat more self-aware and avoid textbook scams.

JPB,

1) It is not irrelevant. I could make literally the same exact argument that you scammed me. Without any sort of relevant information, they are identical. Empty and thoughtless posts by people trying to shake down other posters.
2) It is. And the opinion of an expert which is why literally every person who is independent has agreed with me whereas you have literally no ****ing idea what you're talking about or how gambling ethics work in general. You seem to keep asserting falsehoods whereas numerous people have already posted that they would not deal with bruiser since he is lol bruiser.
3) Bruiser attempted to hold Josh accountable for the debt. That is obviously idiotic and likely what resulted in his lack of assistance. How you can't see the clearest and simplest explanation for everyone's motivations is amazing. I'd 100% trade with Josh over PO or Bruiser. Atleast then I'd know that I wasn't going to attempted to be scammed by these two guys.

In closing, literally no one else has agreed with your view that didn't take part in attempting to scam someone. Why do you think that is? I question your ability to engage in independent thought as you seem to have entered this sub solely as a sock puppet from your initial posts repeatedly posting falsehoods. I guess that is what your ilk does tho.

Worst gambling advice I have ever seen on this forum was when some dumb hick was saying that white people would never vote for Obama, that all of us Obama bettors were throwing our money away. Guy was completely socially ******ed, no self awareness whatsoever.

I won around a quarter mil on Obama.

Try again.

Starting slow with an unknown bookie to see if you get paid or not before betting more is taking a shot? Tomatoe/bruiser has never stiffed anyone and has an excellent reputation.

Thremp and his loser e-buddy are just making that **** up out of whole cloth. It's what they do, they come here and write lies. Yeah it seems lame but this is what all big time gamblers do, they post about their big time bets. All big bettors want you to know what they are doing, it's a well known fact of the industry. Nah, these are not low self esteem losers who just wish they could fit in somewhere, anywhere, these are the best of the best! It's Thremp's Air Betting Syndicate, a.k.a The Tin Horn Gamblers of 2p2. These guys are feared everywhere.

And that was before you went bust and had to borrow 20k from daddy? Wow, that's crazy. Especially because you claimed he could never win, over and over again.

Wonder which of us is incorrect here. Me or the old man bordering on senility talking about Bruiser's pristine rep juxtaposed with my air betting. You considering taking me up on my offer for 10x Pinny limits? I'll be happy to escrow with mod. Settle every 100k?

well, i'm not expecting to make money at this. in fact i expect to lose money doing this but hopefully enjoy the challenge and maybe improve my model in the process. i actually spend hours every day working on and thinking about total pucks (not a joke sadly). this would give me a little extra motivation to keep working on it after i get bored. but if it's no longer worth your time we can forget about the whole thing.

so i'm not interested in upping the stakes and definitely don't want to do any kind of side bet with weekly units w/l because it turns this into a totally different kind of wager and i want to focus on pure prop betting.

Life lesson:

Does someone you don't know or haven't talked to in a while out of the blue offer you something that sounds too good to be true? It's likely a scam.

hmm ok. Let stick with the initial bet then if thats cool. We'll make a new thread for it. 20 bucks a unit, have to use the same line set and can quit at any time (can we agree on minimum of 2 weeks though?)

Wow dude, seriously. Youre way way off on everything it seems. Honest question; what made you think you could make this work in first place? You dont seem to have much knowledge about how all this stuff works.

were you taking a shot boss?

I haven't seen a single active member of the 2+2 betting community (online & offline) which btw is a relatively small community of folks and admittedly is small potato for ya (people's general units are 500-5k) come forward and say that they no longer trust Tomatoe or Post-Oak because Tomatoe was a victim of a scam.

But please continue your ridiculous campaign.

Tomatoe's been banned 23 times from the sportsbetting forum for begging (nonstop) for handouts. I'm surprised the guy has any money at all. I wouldn't trust him to do my laundry. He can't even figure out ncaab totals.

I don't know how to do laundry and most of the folks in my building use the valet service for laundry so it's not unreasonable to assume Tomatoe would not be a good choice for laundry services.

Do you live with Brusier? Can you beat CBB totals?

i dunno once whe i had moey from poker i bought some nncew clothes istead of washig old ones. a fried said i was like an oil shiek who buys a new car after using it once. and im well on the path to unlockig some winning systems. its really only a matter of time

I don't live with Tomatoe. I don't know if I can beat CBB totals - haven't tried.

How would I be taking a shot when I was willing to post up before the game??

Tomatoe says he wants to start small.

Yet continues to bet $750 on a prop.

Then is BEGGING for the money saying he NEEDS the money.


Something just doesn't seem right with that story

That community is rife with idiocy. Virtually no one participates in it except small timers. The idea that someone asking on a message board for 2-3k in action is somehow anything less than fully ******ed is comical.

But I guess the giant swath of us betting a millions every Saturday have a lesser opinion since we're not panhandling on forums. I guess that is the true barometer.

Regardless, I have not seen a single person disagree with me. (Even Poogsy who likes to be contrarian since he doesn't like me hasn't come out in support of you. And Poogsy lives for a chance to disagree.)

What were his limits? I don't really buy into the "start small" narrative either, but the whole situation is lalo.