Whats your involvement?

seattle was getting shut out at the half haha

poogs, for now don't waste any time on this. he is already telling lies that are easily disprovable through chat logs. the bet was not even cancelled at half. he told tomatoe that he has referred several 2p2ers to this bookie and they all loved him. so 2 out of his 4 answers are lies for sure

but there is no bookie. this is a known "brian laverty" scam. he gets people to sign up with a fake local and free rolls them. i have read about this on other forums. there is no bookie, so don't waste your time

i have info that this guy is brian laverty. it will all come out. for now, just know boss2288 is a scammer and is either brian laverty himself or they share financial accounts

haha...classic lolaverty. This happened to me a long time ago too. In hindsight it was 100% my own fault for falling for it, but sometimes the sites are such a joke thats its almost worth giving it a shot.

I have my popcorn out though. Bossman...you said you can prove youre not Brian L. How?

I mean, if I have to I'll post a video of myself with my ID that clearly says something other then Brian lavertys name. Isn't that enough proof? But last resort.. I'd rather get this settled. If tomatoe is okay with it, I'll do weekly payments. I'd rather not spend hours talking about my affiliation with a friend. He scammed.. I assisted him a few years ago-- neither of us do it now. And we share an lbc account with an 100% perfect rating which is why I sent that to tomatoe in the first place.

I would like to see what the team total was at other books.

I don't think Seattle had any points at halftime. The bookie cancelled it at halftime and gave him $300 plus $450 free play which isn't unfair

Looks like spread was arz -2.5 and total was 43. That would put the team total at 20/20.5ish.

heres the question you need to answer honestly. If the first quarter was 14-14, would the bet have been cancelled?

Pay the man and stop taking action if youre gonna do business like this.

crying "bad line" on a team total of 21.5 is ridiculous.

man, can't believe you're still scamming after all of these years, laverty. it would be an honour to be the target of one of your manic spells just once more, for old time's sake.

This^^^

Well given that PostOak has refused to post details in the past. I can only go on what was presented. Tomatoe is also an extremely unreliable narrator given his changes of heart in the previous thread.

You may very well be noted scammer BrianL which I would then find extremely funny. (Perhaps wet dream is the wrong word. But I think I detailed previously how I found all parties involved in the scam incredibly incompetent. I think this reinforces it.)

Post-Oak, can you explain your involvement again? This is the second time you've popped into a tomatoe robbery alleging some inside involvement yet refusing to divulge what it is. Are you his sock puppet like Boss is allegedly for BrianL?

And ya, IIRC that game was like 3 or 6 at half. (ETA: Perhaps a shutout after reading more posts? Immaterial to my answer!) So 300 is pretty lol robbery even with a freeplay at ~60c or whatever on the dollar.

It is bush league FFS. This isn't derived from a bunch of white trash ******s getting blasted before playing softball.

I know Thremp is gonna complain about white knighting and such but I think everyone is on the same page as to Tomatoe clearly being in the right.

Brian Laverty is a noted scammer on 2+2 and many other mediums. Unless "Boss" who claims not to be Brian CAN PROVE that there was another Bookie and it was not his own PPH setup then he's liable for it.

JPB,

I know you are really bad at this, but the entire premise is that Boss is BrianL. In which case Boss doesn't actually exist, and we would fall back to the obvious "BrianL doing BrianL".

I don't think anyone other than you has gotten involved in absurd white knighting. You have a bizarre view of ethics and responsibility, and as evidenced previously aren't really good at vetting the veracity of random parties on the internet. (I think time has shown that I was completely correct in our discussion and that tomatoe/PO just went about on a mud slinging campaign with little competence/transparency/honesty.)

But I find it completely hilarious that someone would do business with someone linked to BrianL (who likely isn't even a real person). I know I basically only deal reputable people, but this is amazing. Tomatoe/Post-Oak syndicate is amazing.

Thremp demands answers. Unfortunately for him, nobody cares.

Actually most of the heavy hitters and I talk about this on a routine basis on how we actively avoid problems like this due to our existing arrangements. I also don't make an idiot out of myself on the forums resulting in people who're competent actively turning me down for xfers out of stupidity. (Yes, I know people who actively avoid you due to your silly history.)

I'm trying to help you out by pointing out why people think you're inept. If you didn't make absurd accusations with zero support, and then repeatedly fail to do the most basic of due diligence (I pointed out how you could go about that before) people wouldn't think you're on the same level of small timey scammer as the people you're accusing.

I'm the nut low dregs i get it. I'd love to see someone reputable step forward and say Post-Oak or Tomatoe have anything less than a stellar reputation. It would be a shame if someone reputable was trying to deal w/ them and they come across Thremp's mumbo jumbo and take it for fact.

Spot of tea, pinky up?

You seem confused. I'm the one with the stellar reputation. PO/Tomatoe accused someone of stealing from them with essentially no information and then failed to provide obvious details that would confirm their story. At this point any sane person would conclude that they are simply attempting to defraud someone or are so incompetent they're not to be trusted.

Getting scammed by BrianL basically affirms what I was saying in the previous thread. But good job trying to subtly goalpost shift! You seem like a quality sock puppet.

Stellar reputative among whom?

If post-oak or tomatoe wanted to bet the cubs game tonight I think they could easily accrue high 6 figures in credit in a matter of hours on here because they've proven to be trustworthy over a long period time.

You on the other hand have a nut low public reputation and I'm not sure you could get a penny down without posting up 100% expect with your quote on quote heavy hitters.

This is liereraly the most backwards post I've ever seen.

Two terrible sports bettors who clearly have some undisclosed working arrangement and whom have managed to be scrammed twice on here in a matter of months on obvious scams are going to get high 6 figuresin of credit in a few hours?

You think they have that kind of money?

On the othet hand thremp does have that kind of money and a stellar reputation amongst the actual sportbetting sharps. In fact I only conduct business with him or people I've met through him. What a surprise I never have any problems as opposed to the downs syndrome idiot who begs for handouts everyday.

Is that how brusier met brianl? Is he one of the ******ed kids he works with?

i don't care who is who and who is involved but the whole thing is built on the idea that a team total of 21.5 is a "bad line" which is absurd on its face. if you didn't notice a big move or you ****ed up your back of the napkin text message based bookmaking math, that's not a "bad line."

if it was like "seattle TT o/u [game line]" or "seattle TT o/u [what the vig is]" that's an obvious input error/bad line and while i have an issue with calling those off, especially by locals, i can at least see a reasonable argument for it. saying 21.5 is a bad line is just a complete lie.

I can't speak for either Post-Oak or Tomatoe's net worth as I simply don't know what those numbers are.

With that said Post-Oak has a LONG history of conducting large transactions on credit within the 2+2 community and has such built up a lot of trust and credibility which is well deserved.

On the other hand we have Thremp who is on his 2000th ghost in maybe 10 years. I've never transacted w/ Thremp and have no reason to believe he is credible or honest as his reputation in my mind is based off of his online conduct which has been proven unprofessional time after time.

i don't know anything about post-oak so won't comment on him, but it's pretty well-established that tomatoe is bruiser and bruiser is a ****in loser deadbeat who sucks ***** for stale pieces of rice.

over under on number of accounts tomatoe has had on here? Id say 20ish?

JPB, don't worry. Nobody takes these clowns seriously. Thremp was dead broke and still talking this same nonsense. Even when he was busted and his entire bankroll was a lousy $20K loan from daddy he was talking like he was big time god's gift to sports betting. Him saying there are people who don't want to deal with me is funny. He seems to have no idea what his own reputation is. Meanwhile I have done more business on this site than all of his broketard e-friends combined and never had one complaint.

I'm rather late to the party here but let me get this straight:

Boss contacts tomatoe through PM/email and says something resembling this:

"It has come to my attention over forum discussion that you like to bet on team totals. Boy do I have a proposition for you. I can get you really good odds on total bets with a certain bookie. Allow me to act as an intermediary between you and this bookie in an arrangement that works as follows:

-You pay me an amount (say $700).
-I bet this on your behalf at the bookie, taking some form of commission that we can duly negotiate.
-If the bet wins, I shall transfer the proceeds to your bank account."

If the above is approximately accurate, I should think the following uncertainties would register in any reasonable mind:

1. How reliable is this guy (boss)? Is he really going to:
-bet the amount at the bookie as he claims?
-transfer any winning proceeds to my bank account?
2. How reliable is the bookie in question? Does it actually exist?
3. Are there any guarantees as to the timing of transfers?

How the **** are you meant to answer question 1, for instance, if you don't know the person (boss)? Surely the proposal is dead at that point and shouldn't even be responded to?

Yet i googled "Brian Laverty" and discovered a number of scammed victims. Am I missing something? Is it somehow conventional in the sports betting world (that I confess to being new to) to transfer funds to people you don't know that well?

Undisclosed to who? You guys seems to think you are my accountants or something. You're just some loser phoney bustout who pretends to be big time on an internet forum but who is actually spending his time worrying about what kind of arrangements "post-oak" has going on.