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Originally Posted by romaleo1
i think what he means is ain't none of y'all making money so what the hell y'all doin'
Accurate.
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Originally Posted by SuperMario7
We (people in this forum) are also poker players too and we are all well aware as poker players how to spot value! This essential tool can be used across a broad spectrum of sports and games.
Most poker players are dreadful at math and the concepts behind +EV and bankroll management. By dreadful, I mean they are actively worse than someone who has spent under 5 minutes getting coached by someone knowledgeable on the subject.
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Originally Posted by DonJuan
I kind of understand where lvr is coming from but assuming most people on this forum are from america it would be pretty hard to understand how the market work if they can't open a pinnacle account. Most of the line you guys post has a lot of vig in it. You can make a lot of money just by line shopping. Also unless you make thousands of trade and have a way to track vs pinnacle closing line you probably are a bit biases in your handicapping and you probably could be winning due to variance.
p.s pretty tough read but I would challenge anyone that take sport trading serious to read. https://www.amazon.com/Squares-Sharp...res+and+sharps
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by RB87
Not sure if Pinnacle closing line has been shown to be efficient for mma.
Would love to see some data on it.
Quite a few guys on here are pretty sharp in regards to betting taking into account variance,vig,closing lines.
I guess this Ivr dude has maybe followed some bets on here lost and feels the need to vent.
This is the only thread I read in the sports betting forum because its actually pretty good and not full of ego maniacs trying to one up each other.
How would you possible have data shown that it is efficient? I'm not sure you understand what you're asking much less what "data" you could see to show this. The question is poorly formed.
Also, the reason you probably like it is because its more of an SE/BSP thread. Probably have the same level of intellectual discussion that the average water cooler talk has. It is just kinda the nature of what attracts people to the thread. MMA has somewhat small limits (NHL sized), a lack of data, and infrequent events. Hence why there are few professionals who actively pursue it. Weirdly, most people in this thread focus on the popular events despite being no where near the limits for the smaller events where they might likely have an edge.
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Originally Posted by Nick Diaz
Dude I have reported you, sorry but start talking MMA betting in this thread or respectfully go f your mother.
Sincerely,
Nick Diaz
He is talking about betting. Stop trying to police the forum with threats. There are moderators that serve that purpose.
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This is most likely the saddest part of it all
The fact that people in this thread are poker players but are oblivious to the most basic concepts in betting
This is as old as time. There is basically no one I know who came from a successful poker background and learned to grasp betting in any material way. There is probably some actual inverse correlation between the two. Several people still can't grasp concepts such as Kelly Criterion and the implications after years of discussions on the subject.