HORSE RACING THREAD
05-10-2010
, 09:46 PM
lol.. in case anyone missed this because of my stupid bets 
Im posting it again, i thought it was good and you (WotR) would enjoy it...
Im posting it again, i thought it was good and you (WotR) would enjoy it...
Quote:
From WNYC
Like Sandy Frucher, the man chosen last year to resuscitate New York City OTB as its new chairman.
"People have described it to me as a gathering of, sort of, people who are down on their luck or losers or whatever," Frucher says.
We're sitting in his home -- a five-story townhouse decorated with antique Chinese vases and tapestries. Frucher says he doesn't like gambling much. He saves his betting for the stock market. But he says he still knows exactly what OTB's problem is. It needs an image makeover.
"In England, horse racing is the sport of kings," Frucher says. "In the United States, it used to be 'National Velvet.' Now, the picture is some poor folks who've had some bad luck, standing in front of a deteriorating, ugly, rotten OTB parlor."
So Frucher has a plan: Change the demographic of OTB customers. He says the current customer base is dying out: 92 percent male, average age of 55. The demographic of OTB's future will look a lot different when he's done with it, he says: younger, hipper, richer. And, a lot more female.
This is Sandy Frucher's vision: twenty-something-year-old girls dancing under chandeliers in trendy bars -- betting on horses in between cocktail sips. In six months, Frucher hopes to install self-service Internet betting terminals at bars like the Village Lantern at Bleecker and Sullivan to replace the OTB parlors he'll shut down.
The Village Lantern is only a 10-minute walk from the Varick Street parlor, which is likely to close since it's one of the less profitable branches in the city. Tonight, one of the Lantern's customers, Shannon Phelan, says she'd gamble if there were OTB terminals in here. She says it sounds like a great excuse to get drunk and yell. "Because that would be hysterical!" Phelan says. "Are you kidding? You are drunk, you whip your money down, you cheer on a horse -- that would be great."
Like Sandy Frucher, the man chosen last year to resuscitate New York City OTB as its new chairman.
"People have described it to me as a gathering of, sort of, people who are down on their luck or losers or whatever," Frucher says.
We're sitting in his home -- a five-story townhouse decorated with antique Chinese vases and tapestries. Frucher says he doesn't like gambling much. He saves his betting for the stock market. But he says he still knows exactly what OTB's problem is. It needs an image makeover.
"In England, horse racing is the sport of kings," Frucher says. "In the United States, it used to be 'National Velvet.' Now, the picture is some poor folks who've had some bad luck, standing in front of a deteriorating, ugly, rotten OTB parlor."
So Frucher has a plan: Change the demographic of OTB customers. He says the current customer base is dying out: 92 percent male, average age of 55. The demographic of OTB's future will look a lot different when he's done with it, he says: younger, hipper, richer. And, a lot more female.
This is Sandy Frucher's vision: twenty-something-year-old girls dancing under chandeliers in trendy bars -- betting on horses in between cocktail sips. In six months, Frucher hopes to install self-service Internet betting terminals at bars like the Village Lantern at Bleecker and Sullivan to replace the OTB parlors he'll shut down.
The Village Lantern is only a 10-minute walk from the Varick Street parlor, which is likely to close since it's one of the less profitable branches in the city. Tonight, one of the Lantern's customers, Shannon Phelan, says she'd gamble if there were OTB terminals in here. She says it sounds like a great excuse to get drunk and yell. "Because that would be hysterical!" Phelan says. "Are you kidding? You are drunk, you whip your money down, you cheer on a horse -- that would be great."
05-10-2010
, 11:47 PM
LOL,pretty funny read there Kev. I use the pdf basics for my capping at DRF,old school i guess,i noticed the last few PP's also had the ML on them,and that really ticks me off. I could care less what John White thinks,or any ML maker to an extent,i just hate seeing them when im doing my capping.
I cap with very ocd behavior,i like doing things MY way,and a certain way. I have some markings on my PP's that look like hyroglifics,but i know what they mean.
As for your story,im all for girls,i know Kev and i have the same taste in women,i have big hands and not afraid to fill them up,but i never ever look at horseracing as gambling,but as a job,and a passion. My best friend growing up my great grandmother, was from Saskatchewan,and she would always tell me she hoped i could find a job that i liked,so work never felt like work. We would usually have these talks while the 2nd period ended from the CBC broadcast,and i could see "Peter the Puck",as a kid i thought that was the coolest. She made it till her late 90's,and at 92 i would stop in once a week to see her,and i would have to stop her from going on her hands and knees backwards down the stairs, to the basement to get me a coke....This is where i get my loyalty,so chances i do anything different with PP's is remote,lol.
Just felt like sharing that,sounds like Kev you felt the same for your grandfather. As for gambling, if i want to do that,i will eat my wifes cooking
I cap with very ocd behavior,i like doing things MY way,and a certain way. I have some markings on my PP's that look like hyroglifics,but i know what they mean.
As for your story,im all for girls,i know Kev and i have the same taste in women,i have big hands and not afraid to fill them up,but i never ever look at horseracing as gambling,but as a job,and a passion. My best friend growing up my great grandmother, was from Saskatchewan,and she would always tell me she hoped i could find a job that i liked,so work never felt like work. We would usually have these talks while the 2nd period ended from the CBC broadcast,and i could see "Peter the Puck",as a kid i thought that was the coolest. She made it till her late 90's,and at 92 i would stop in once a week to see her,and i would have to stop her from going on her hands and knees backwards down the stairs, to the basement to get me a coke....This is where i get my loyalty,so chances i do anything different with PP's is remote,lol.
Just felt like sharing that,sounds like Kev you felt the same for your grandfather. As for gambling, if i want to do that,i will eat my wifes cooking
05-11-2010
, 04:00 AM
OMG, I'm the same way in regards to ML.
I look at it after my handicapping is done, to get an idea of where my value might be at. But, I do NOT want to see it while i'm handicapping and have it influence my decision making process. Del Mar's website had a great tool. It was a handy little program where you would punch in the % chance you feel each horse has of winning and it would give you the proper odds the horse should be. Measure that to the tote (or ML) to gauge value. I had it downloaded into an old computer, it might still be on the site.
BRAG: I married Italian
BEAT: I married Crazy
I look at it after my handicapping is done, to get an idea of where my value might be at. But, I do NOT want to see it while i'm handicapping and have it influence my decision making process. Del Mar's website had a great tool. It was a handy little program where you would punch in the % chance you feel each horse has of winning and it would give you the proper odds the horse should be. Measure that to the tote (or ML) to gauge value. I had it downloaded into an old computer, it might still be on the site.
BEAT: I married Crazy
05-12-2010
, 05:58 PM
Preakness Draw & Morning Line Odds... While most are likely to claim they are "savers," the haters will claim they'd rather be "lucky" then good. And since neither of the Irish eyes are smiling, personally I'd rather bend and twist. 
1. Aikenite - Javier Castellano - Todd Pletcher
20-to-1
2. Schoolyard Dreams - Eibar Coa - Derek Ryan
15-to-1
3. Pleasant Prince - Julien Leparoux - Wesley Ward
20-to-1
4. Northern Giant - Terry Thompson - D. Wayne Lukas
30-to-1
5. Yawanna Twist - Edgar Prado - Rick Dutrow Jr.
30-to-1
6. Jackson Bend - Mike Smith - Nick Zito
12-to-1
7. Lookin At Lucky - Martin Garcia - Bob Baffert
3-to-1
8. Super Saver - Calvin Borel - Todd Pletcher
5-to-2
9. Caracortado - Paul Atkinson - Mike Machowsky
10-to-1
10. Paddy O’Prado - Kent Desormeaux - Dale Romans
9-to-2
11. First Dude - Ramon Dominguez - Dale Romans
20-to-1
12. Dublin - Garrett Gomez - D. Wayne Lukas
10-to-1
1. Aikenite - Javier Castellano - Todd Pletcher
20-to-1
2. Schoolyard Dreams - Eibar Coa - Derek Ryan
15-to-1
3. Pleasant Prince - Julien Leparoux - Wesley Ward
20-to-1
4. Northern Giant - Terry Thompson - D. Wayne Lukas
30-to-1
5. Yawanna Twist - Edgar Prado - Rick Dutrow Jr.
30-to-1
6. Jackson Bend - Mike Smith - Nick Zito
12-to-1
7. Lookin At Lucky - Martin Garcia - Bob Baffert
3-to-1
8. Super Saver - Calvin Borel - Todd Pletcher
5-to-2
9. Caracortado - Paul Atkinson - Mike Machowsky
10-to-1
10. Paddy O’Prado - Kent Desormeaux - Dale Romans
9-to-2
11. First Dude - Ramon Dominguez - Dale Romans
20-to-1
12. Dublin - Garrett Gomez - D. Wayne Lukas
10-to-1
05-12-2010
, 06:38 PM
05-14-2010
, 11:02 AM
05-14-2010
, 03:56 PM
This is your fault Kev,the sheriff of nonsense (bbv mod) you showed him this thread didnt you? Instead of sending him to a half way house first (nvg) you bring him over here...Thanks. So now that im homeless,can you send me your address in a private message so i can mapquest it...Alls i know is NY,and get the HRTV off parental block for me please.
05-14-2010
, 04:08 PM
05-14-2010
, 06:16 PM
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AllenJ you MF'er,SOB....Lost my house...Thanks...You used exclamation points in your last post so i thought it was a lock...You didnt say in your opinion you liked blue sailor,or im playing blue sailor and have a good feeling for him...no you said for all of us to bet the house on him....
This is your fault Kev,the sheriff of nonsense (bbv mod) you showed him this thread didnt you? Instead of sending him to a half way house first (nvg) you bring him over here...Thanks. So now that im homeless,can you send me your address in a private message so i can mapquest it...Alls i know is NY,and get the HRTV off parental block for me please.
This is your fault Kev,the sheriff of nonsense (bbv mod) you showed him this thread didnt you? Instead of sending him to a half way house first (nvg) you bring him over here...Thanks. So now that im homeless,can you send me your address in a private message so i can mapquest it...Alls i know is NY,and get the HRTV off parental block for me please.
also, TVG and HRTV are not on parental lock!!
My kids get excited when they go in the gate.. "they going in the gate daddy!!"
05-14-2010
, 06:55 PM
05-14-2010
, 11:20 PM
I am going $200 on LAL for tomorrow,has a better post and different karma i hope with Garcia on board....I also would not be suprised to see Caracortado win it to be honest,i think the track plays to this horses favor.
I am already going with Ice Box for the Belmont,i think 1 1/2 is perfect for him.
8th race tonight at Hollywood Kev,Bad Bad Gaby,sure thats never the case,but name play all the same.
05-15-2010
, 06:31 AM
