Nice. I think Money Secrets at the Racetrack is one of the best "betting" focused books available and worth a read even for someone who only bets sports.

really appreciate the lengthy post, probably a ways away from ever delving into this stuff but going to order all 3 asap

One of the things I wish someone had shown me.. when I was new to the game, was horsetourneys.com

If you are new and you're okay with losing 10-20 bucks this weekend while I also getting some good real world practice in handicapping... go on horsetourneys (provided your area allows it) and find the head 2 head tourneys. This is the equivalent of a heads up poker SNG.

Once you register, youll get access to a free brisnet past performance and jump right in and try to pick some winners. Live tourneys let you make a selection as the race day goes while the pick and pray format requires you to make your picks before the first race goes off.

The tourneys are scored using the win and place payouts, as if you are making a hypothetical $2 wager on each. So... if a horse wins at 4/1 odds, you'll get around $10 for the win, and whatever the tote says the place payout is.. and whoever has the highest score at the end of the head to head tourney wins.

if you need help figuring out how to read past performances, look up the "On the Wrong Lead" youtube channel and they have some videos that show you kind of how to get started. Those are the same guys that run the horse racing subreddit. They do a live stream from time to time and it's pretty decent.

Protip: Don't buy picks from anyone. It's really not worth it.

oh man, something like that could be a very fun way to start learning more, ty once again

I approach the game different. I had no knowledge of horses or horse racing when i got into the game (fell asleep had a vision about a horse one night never looked back) and i like it that way and prefer also if i was to start again. I want to learn how to learn my way in this game and play it my way and learn that way. I do not want to learn how to play how someone else learned how to play the game or they play it i want it to be unique to myself if that makes sense because tried hard to explain that correctly.

Nothing more enjoyable than to handicap a card fresh without having any prior opinions or have heard any check the weather and scratches and put the puzzle together. I do not go into any card saying i am playing this or that or any way BUT open my eyes to what the card offers and this way i feel i end up on more plays i am comfortable with within my capping similar to how Easy explained his ASB #6 prior.

Maybe i see 2 singles that are more than likely going off 2nd choice or worse in short fields that could leverage and spread in a wide open 2 grass race sequence PK5 for example OR only damn thing i see is a 4/5 in a favorable spot where i feel he/she should be 1-5. Try to avoid creating value that is not there and exploiting vulnerable favorites at any opportunity.

Start myself over on Derby Wars same format tourneys and all some are WPS where more traditional are WP fun but i have more fun playing a card or multiple ones in a day where thru my capping i see a spot or exotic opportunity compared to tourneys anymore. I would say want to cut your teeth SportofKings solid free place to start also free PP's for that days race. DerbyWars offers a 5.75 entry 1K Guaranteed survivor WPS for Toga pretty popular decent way start if tourneys interest you starting out.

Cant disagree w/ honcho.

Not much early week racing is worth betting, but this CNL r6 came up on my radar. 7 looks good on paper, but the year layoff is concerning. I think we get a decent price on the 4 today and I think the 4 will be in the photo. Anything over 5/1+ on the 4 is a bet

honcho, you don't think you'd have found your own process in a more efficient manner first studying other successful processes first?

when i got started in dfs i used my knowledge and got crushed, completely annihiliated and i was someone who thought he knew sports and advanced analytics well

it took years of studying the lineups of successful players to begin to figure out what it was they were projecting for that made them money, likewise, when browsing the sports betting threads here i'm always picking up useful info that i wouldn't have thought up of on my own as quickly or even at all for that manner

i'm all about forging ones own path but also think there's tons of value of studying chemistry in school if you wish to become a chemist rather than just start from scratch and eventually figure it out

A more efficient manner? Hell maybe but it would not of been mine. I am not a model of how to do things most people are not as comfortable with them self as i am. After an initial large score i just capped cards watched races and never bet just to see if i was close and after about a year 16 months i felt i could trust my capping and opinions enough to make $$. I did not even know how to read a DRF PP BUT i mean figured it out.

I do not give a S what anyone else thinks in this sport or any i do not watch pregame or any damn thing give me the injuries and the weather most times and i got this chit. Money is coming out of my wallet so my opinion is the one that matters.

Like i said i am not a model of how to do things BUT the things i do are never influenced and always unique to me.

If you guys played that 4, congrats. We got our price at 6/1 Feels good to finally give you guys a price play in ITT that works out.

I'll watch the DRF race of the day YouTube and I'll listen to the Weekend Stakes Radio on HorseRacingRadio network because I love hearing them talk up horses that I have reasons to bet against.

When the "Horse racing media" is talking up a horse that I'm not interested in, I'll most certainly get a price on my opinions that differ from the experts.

I think one of the most high profile examples of this happening in recent memory was when Tiz the Law couldn't lose the Kentucky Derby and he shows up in a 20 horse race at 3/5 odds. If I thought it was a 1 horse race, the race was a pass... but the only other horse that had run numbers close to Tiz was Authentic.

The horse racing media dismissed Authentic... because lazy handicappers saw the Haskell race leading up to the Derby that year and it looked like he was weakening and getting run down by NY Traffic. I went full savant on that replay and after re-watching it a few dozen times, Mike Smith thought he was clear and geared down Authentic... When authentic started turning his head in the stretch, he was losing a significant amount of momentum.

I thought the jockey change to Johnny V was all Authentic needed to improve. No one in the media criticized Mike Smith for that ride on Authentic but it wasn't one of his best, unfortunately.

Sure enough, Authentic edged TTL and lazy handicappers paid the price.

That's just 1 of a garden variety of ways to play this game. When you see stuff like that and it just "Clicks" you're supposed to hammer your opinions.

https://paulickreport.com/horseplaye...s-this-friday/

Forgot to throw this up a couple days ago and we will see how this goes BUT could be a real game changer in handle i would imagine for KY Tracks and something long long in coming for the horseplayer.

Knowing how to bet > then deciding on who to bet. Most people fail because they reverse this process. Remember it's a pari mutual game and that warrants changing the approach in comparison to sports wagering. Extracting value out of a race or betting sequence should be your approach each and every time. and though that sounds obvious, most horse players do not do this and this is where edges in this game are found.

I doubt we get anywhere near the ML on #5 in R11 at Monmouth but I think Marissa's Lady is head and shoulders better than this field. The 9 is the only horse who has run anywhere near good enough to beat her. I think public could hammer her but if we get lucky and get 2/1 or better, it's a bet for me.

after the poor break, i knew she was toast. That's how it goes.

For some of the new players or people interesting in horse racing, I would highly recommend that you take advantage of the money back special offers on sites like TVG, etc. Bet $10 and if your pick comes in 2nd or 3rd, you get your money back as long as there are 8 runners in the field. Great way to practice and take a few risk free shots at this game.

MBS races for tomorrow at TVG are DMR r1 r8 and r10 and I will see if i can find a horse or two that looks good in those races.

Today, I had a few stand outs.

Saratoga R5 - #4 Greatest Love -- Is the morning line favorite but looks very tough against this field. Possibly key on top in an EX/TRI or key in a horizontal. If this horse goes lower than 1/1, just pass.

Woodbine R7 - #8 Lady Maeve -- The cutback in distance and class relief could be the key here. If you get near the ML of 5/2, it's a bet. However, the #3 Storm Gauge is very very interesting and could fire fresh. At tracks like woodbine, I don't mind betting horses off the layoff because these horses rarely ship anyways and the meet is so long. I like the multiple 5F workouts, and given that no other horse has run higher than course par in the 60 days, the #3 could fly under the radar given that it's has run big on the turf here in the past. (9/27/2020 race) At 8/1, he's worth putting on your tickets.

Best of luck today, I will be back tomorrow with some money back specials opinions.

Additionally, I love handicapping and if anyone in this thread wants my opinion on any race, I'll give it to you. Just lemme know. Thanks so much.

Did you ever dabble in the dogs? I was interested in greyhounds a few years ago but never was able to figure out any angles. Now that industry is almost on its last leg; I imagine horse racing handle is declining steady as well by this point but not sure where to check that data.

Nah I have never played them.

Handle at the bigger tracks is up but is probably down overall industry wide. I am in the camp that there are too many thoroughbred tracks in North America.

When you have pools that are bigger than what the owners/jocks/trainers make, things like this tend to happen (This happened last night)

https://twitter.com/failedtomenace/s...Hs8jj5uWHEadcw

We almost got storm gauge home. He missed by a nose at 14/1 odds at Woodbine.

Lol wtf at the ass thing.

https://paulickreport.com/horseplaye...e-at-aqueduct/ Seeing a pattern ....Game is dead and everyone knows it. We love the horses i am sure to a man or woman in the thread for are own reasons but the people in it are just pos and the good ones sitting on their hands and just bitching allowed it to get this out of hand.

No consequences even if caught so i mean pfff

https://paulickreport.com/horseplaye...ick-5-players/

This did not escape me either just another wtf...Told ya man horseplayers we a certain type of dumb and they know it. 100% takeout late surface changes scratched at the gate only to run in the race (BC) matters not THESE FOOLS JUST KEEP BETTING.

Unless we can kick the habit and hold the sport and product to a more fair product THIS is horseracing then and what we deserve.

Sorry for the late post. Did some replay work last night. Sunday, Woodbine R2 #3 Awesomecrest looked great on replay. This is a step up in class but this horse could spice up your exotics at a 20/1 ML. Worth a shot if you get around 15/1+ in the tote. Best of luck!

Unpopular opinion, I have not been impressed with saratoga at all this year. This incident is icing on the cake but I have bet maybe 3-4 races there so far.

Two days into it, I'm much more impressed with racing product, and payouts over at DMR versus SAR.

A million different ways to fix this sport, but we have to be honest about something. The bettors are probably 6th or 7th on the totem pole in terms of the priority of the horse racing industry. At the top, you have auction sales, breeders, owners, track owners, trainers etc...

I don't know how you fix it without a commissioner overseeing it all... and that will never happen.

I knew that race was going to setup for a bomb, I just had the wrong bomb. The 4 won at 24/1 and got the trip that i hoped the 3 would get. Awesomecrest is going into my stable and may benefit from a jockey change. I say this because upon watching the replay, jock kept fighting with the horse and the horse kept turning his head and losing all momentum.

As long as we're torching money, I did replays for the Woodbine Oaks today. R9 I think you can throw out the #10 Pioneer's Edge's last race. This race has a lot of early speed in it, and I think it's going to setup for a horse to come over the top in the stretch. I think 10 will actually benefit from being in the outside post. In her last race, she got stuck in between horses and a few other horses got the jump on her and the jock gave up.

I think the outside post should force the 10 into a stalking position and if she gets a clear shot at the finish line, I think the pace sets up nicely for her to roll in the stretch. With first time lasix and a bullet work, I think she's sitting on a big performance.

my numbers had it between the 3 and 10 there.. 10 just never got close enough to make a bid. 0/2 today. Maybe i'll make up for it next weekend!

https://paulickreport.com/news/the-b...ia-downs-race/

Lmao

I have a stable horse running tomorrow at LRL r2 - #4 Stimulus Maker is very interesting here. Last race, he steadied, had all sorts of trouble and still found a way to win. At 8/1 ML, worth a shot.