Whoa, I must do some research on this.. I am an executions trader (commodities) and have done deals for Ahmed Zayat. He was a nice guy and I was excited for Pioneer of the nile.. lets get our facts together.

This is very sad if true.

[QUOTE=Kevroc;16716756]Whoa, I must do some research on this.. I am an executions trader (commodities) and have done deals for Ahmed Zayat. He was a nice guy and I was excited for Pioneer of the nile.. lets get our facts together.

This is very sad if true. [/QUOTE


Sad is not the word i think of Kev,this is a black eye the sport does not need. Seems i read somewhere this week also someone in your line of work Kev, and tied to the horse industry just got a nickel in NY for insider trading. I think there is more than just a misunderstanding in this case unfortunately,seems also i remember winning money on the horse in question Thorn Song at Keeneland or Aqueduct in early 09.

Didnt know you had a real job Kev,what fun is that knowing your going to be able to eat still if your plays dont pan out?

From my understanding so far.. it may not be all his doing. His name seems pretty clean. Fifth Third isn't exactly squeaky clean, imo.

Santa Anita 2/10/10

1.) 1-3
2.) 5-1-6
3.) 13-12-1
4.) 10-4-7
5.) 1-5-3
6.) 7-9-6
7.) 4-5-9
8.) 7-10-4


It looks like there may be some value to the PK6,races 3-8 have value. I will play rolling DD's and PK3's from the 3rd on,try to give my exact late PK4 ticket before the 5th.

good luck honcho.. i looked at fridays card and i think there is going to be a nice pick four payout. I'm gonna stay on the sidelines until then.

Take it down!

Santa Anita 2/11/10

1.) 7-3-5
2.) 4-3-6
3.) 3-9-8
4.) 7-8-3
5.) 4-2-3
6.) 6-8-7
7.) 1-6-4
8.) 10-5-8


PK6 carry today of 77k,and some decent racing all day. Was -60 on the day yesterday ftr. Thanks Kev,gave it a shot,will today too.

espn is reporting zenyatta/alexandra may happen at apple blossom with a 5 mil winner's purse

Yes Chucky,been following since early this morning from what i understand its April 9th @ 1 1/8th mile...wait and see,not UNTIL i hear from them both do i get excited,and i will,and i will go!

Not too bad a day today,cashed a couple ok DD's and a PK3,missed the PK6 obv,thought the 8th would get me being a 8k claimer crap shoot,the winner of the 7th was a CD churchill shipper,and threw out right away...dohhh...that makes like 1 for 50 shippers 1st time from CD to SA,was up about +125 for the day ftr. Still playing the wait and see game on the big 'news",something just tells me RA wont be right for it...

Koriner/Talamo was a KY shipper? Small field too.. bah!

As for the cheap claimers.. those last races on the SA cards have been pretty tough (on purpose for high fives, ldo).. friday's card is no different.

I'll be playing a late p4 and without even handicapping, I know that I will have to use "Infintyandbeyond" because my son loves buzz lightyear and "Miss Wined Up" because by post time (7:30pm EST), my wife will surely be such.

gotta the swami angles, lol

Santa Anita friday late pick four (pre-scratches)

5) 2-3-5-7-10-11
6) 2-4
7) 1-3-6-9
8) 1-3-8-11

$192 total

YTD (-736)

#4 scratched in race #6
Please replace with #5
same cost (I dont like the #2 enough to single)

Santa Anita $14 to win on #8 in race #6

YTD (-750)

Again, I hit the backup win bet and lose the main bet.

YTD (-680)

LOL @ Kev...8 was a good hedge,only closer in a front speed filled field,was in the PP'S...wait.....

kev, santa anita pick 6 today?

Hey guys, I post these for fun.. remember the $$ comes in bunches, so I'm nonplussed by being down almost $1k.. it is early in the year

Gonna pass on the pick six but, here is my pick four ticket... I'm going very thin early because I can't see anyone other than Rumba Along or Becrux winning the 7th. But, the finale is a wild one and I am pushing the ALL button, looking for a four digit payout here...

7) 3-4
8) 3-4-8
9) 1-2-9
10) ALL

$180 YTD (-860)

Santa Anita 2/13/10

1.) 1-8-4
2.) 2-7-6
3.) 6-4-1
4.) 1-4-2
5.) 2-5-7
6.) 4-2-3
7.) 4-10-3
8.) 8-3-5
9.) 9-1-3
10.) 11-3-1

Should be a good day of racing!

Kev i know we have a mutual respect when it comes to capping,i just dont agree at all with the windfall scenario unless your a specific PK6 or PK4 capper.

And we both know being down 1k is nothing,hope your up 2k today after the PK4. GL

PICK 6 SANTA ANITA FEB 13th

RACE 5- 1,5
RACE 6- 1,2
RACE 7- 3,4
RACE 8- 8
RACE 9- 1
RACE 10- 3,8,11

48$

im not a pick 6 player by any means so im gonna try a small ticket and just hope to get there.

Ah yes.. which is what i am! lol

Also, the phrase is borrowed from Beyer. He stated in one or two of his books that the money usually comes in windfalls and being a horizontal wagering guy, I tend to agree

Good luck Honcho and AllenJ, let's crush em today!

EDIT: Being a forum full of poker players, I can understand where this may appear counter-intuitive to us. We "grind" our monies out. But, racing.. what with the takeout and such.. it is a difficult game to grind. I feel like i'm fishing. I cast my net in the water, hoping to snag that massive tuna.

plans changed so not heading to laurel now. so no bet for me. guess ill see later tonight how it ends.. gl kev and honcho.

Wow, talk about ice cold.

Out in first leg.

(-860)

typically when there's a 515k carryover does that make playing the pick 6 +EV (i.e. overwhelms the takeout)?

For sure.

Watch today's pick six for example.

When it is all said and done, figure out what the parlay of the six winners would pay and compare that to the pick six payout and you'll see the value.

Half a million dollars of the pot before the windows even open!

Be back later with a ticket.

Santa Anita 2/14/10

1.) 3-4-1
2.) 4-7-1
3.) 5-2-3
4.) 5-1a-3
5.) 3-4-5
6.) 9-8-5
7.) 2-5-6
8.) 13-10-8
9.) 4-9-3

Thats my full capped card for today,i did well yesterday up about +800,played a $5 PK3 10x,paid $75.50 i think,and the DD there,worked out well. I am ONLY playing the PK6 today,and will have an exact ticket before the 4th. GL all.