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06-07-2014 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonBarSinister
I hate to say it but I don't think CC gets it done today. Call it sour grapes, call a sense of doom but if I take my heart out of it, Wicked Strong looks like the winner to me. If not him then Tonalist. Thats my play, with CC no better than 3rd. I really hopeI have this wrong, but history tells me I'm right. Good Luck To All!! Good Luck to CC.
I agree with this. My miss Sophia ruined my day. Ended up losing a pile of pick 3s where i had her singled.
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06-07-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet
There is even a later pick 4 than that. Starts in race 10.

Race 8 7-10
Race 9 4-9-1
Race 10 8-4-10-9
Race 11 9
Race 12 4-7-12
Race 13 14-5
I played
Race 8: 5,6,9
Race 9: 1,5,9
Race 10: 1,4,7-9
Race 11: 2

Let's go go go
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06-07-2014 , 06:10 PM
I think CC had this locked. But going to put a win show on the 1 & 7.
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06-07-2014 , 06:15 PM
36-1 on General aRod is a huge overlay imho.

I can also see Commissioner sneaking in there, but just not enough to win. Using him in my exotics.

Throwing in a 7-8-9 small saver box also.
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06-07-2014 , 06:16 PM
Johnny V with a great ride on a great horse today
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06-07-2014 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
Anyone have the PP for the Belmont Stakes?

This had Brisnet and DRF last time I looked.

http://downthestretchs.wordpress.com...-performances/
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06-07-2014 , 07:06 PM
Art Sherman apparently has never heard of losing with grace. Remember when the trainer for Smarty Jones went up and shook Zito's hand and congratulated him? **** this guy, you'll be back in obscurity again in no time..

Last edited by chromakey; 06-07-2014 at 07:07 PM. Reason: added additional rage
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06-07-2014 , 07:09 PM
Lost the last thread of respect that I had for CC owners. Don't complain about the process. Your horse was not good enough, it sucks but that's why it takes a horse like Secrateriat,Seattle Slew ,Affirmed et al.... to win this thing,. Changing the rules to make it easier for you to win doesn't to squat for you or your horse. Your horse didn't deserve to be mentioned with those horse. Go back to obscurity where you belong.
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06-07-2014 , 07:09 PM
Well, lost $100 on Chrome, but I had a decent amount on Commissioner to place/Show
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06-07-2014 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chromakey
Art Sherman apparently has never heard of losing with grace. Remember when the trainer for Smarty Jones went up and shook Zito's hand and congratulated him? **** this guy, you'll be back in obscurity again in no time..
+1. That speech he gave was so toolish. He should have been proud his horse won 2/3 triple crown races. I'm so happy he lost. Had win bets on commissioner and tonalist. Wish commissioner won but I'm happy CC lost. BTW why did people single CC? CC wasn't going to pay well in pick 4 and seemed really wasteful. I lol at anyone that bet him to win at 4/5.
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06-07-2014 , 07:19 PM
As a lifelong race fan, these classless douchebags of CC have me irate right now. I actually won a nice piece of change on the Gold Cup/Belmont double so I am not a sore loser. Show some respect and class you toolbags for the horses that have won this thing before you. Nobody was ganged up on more than Smarty Jones but his connections handled it all with class. Can't run in the triple crown races unless you run in the Derby. Yeah that makes perfect sense, by the time you get to the Belmont he can run by himself. What a ****ing low life *******. Go back to your dust bowl farm and rot. You embarrassed yourself and your horse today with your crying.
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06-07-2014 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chromakey
Art Sherman apparently has never heard of losing with grace. Remember when the trainer for Smarty Jones went up and shook Zito's hand and congratulated him? **** this guy, you'll be back in obscurity again in no time..
It was Steve Coburn not Art Sherman and he is a piece of ****.... What has made it tough for 36 years is the fact that there are new shooters in the Belmont. On top of calling the Tonalist connections cowards on national tv he turns around and yells at his wife when she is telling him to stop.... ****ing loser. Long plane ride back to California.
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06-07-2014 , 07:25 PM
You're right, it was Coburn, not Sherman. Here's the rant for those of you who missed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sFzjoVEm9s
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06-07-2014 , 07:42 PM
Coburn is probably bummed that his fame window is over. No excuse to be like that though. I know if I had a pony like that, I would let the trainer do the talking and hang in the background. I hope they don't retire CC just yet and continue to run him a couple more times later in the summer / fall...
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06-07-2014 , 07:55 PM
I have been ranting in this thread about what complete douchebags California Chrome's connections are for like 5 weeks now. He said this same nonsense about locking non-Derby horses out of the other two races even before the Preakness. He doesn't seem to get that they are three distinct races with different histories and different courses. They existed before the concept of a Triple Crown in American horse racing.

He's been acting like a classless fool this whole time. The California based racing fans were so elated that they just couldn't see it.

These guys had everything break their way for all three races. You couldn't have asked for more opportune weather or injuries to rivals. Not to mention the terrible posts his rivals kept drawing.

Tonalist is out of Tapit and looks like a star. Untapable might be better than Chrome too. I wonder how high Tapit's stud fee can hit.
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06-07-2014 , 08:03 PM
Palace Malice in a great position for HOY
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06-07-2014 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MidWestSide
Palace Malice in a great position for HOY
Wide open.... If Untappable decides to take on the boys and beats them she will be right there.
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06-07-2014 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BBB624
Wide open.... If Untappable decides to take on the boys and beats them she will be right there.
Very true! PM looked nice again today as well.
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06-07-2014 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MidWestSide
Palace Malice in a great position for HOY
Only because of Wise Dan's injury.
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06-07-2014 , 08:41 PM
Maybe they meet in Whitney.

I think having Velázquez is this best thing for Palace he kinda stumbled out of the gate watching the race a few more times he didn't want to go through looked as if he wanted to go outside his head pointed that way.
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06-07-2014 , 08:44 PM
I am so confused on that rant but I also don't know anything about horse racing. I mean aren't these all completely separated races governed by different bodies? They just make up the "Triple Crown" because someone came up with that name and that these three would comprise it? So it would be like Tiger Woods winning the first 3 majors of the year and failing to win the PGA and then ranting that some guy who didn't qualify for the Masters, US Open, or British Open that wins the final major of the year is a coward and it's not fair to him, right?
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06-07-2014 , 10:05 PM
possibly the biggest crybaby ownwer(s) of all time in pro sports....

I'm pretty gassed right now...but wtf
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06-07-2014 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonBarSinister
As a lifelong race fan, these classless douchebags of CC have me irate right now. I actually won a nice piece of change on the Gold Cup/Belmont double so I am not a sore loser. Show some respect and class you toolbags for the horses that have won this thing before you. Nobody was ganged up on more than Smarty Jones but his connections handled it all with class. Can't run in the triple crown races unless you run in the Derby. Yeah that makes perfect sense, by the time you get to the Belmont he can run by himself. What a ****ing low life *******. Go back to your dust bowl farm and rot. You embarrassed yourself and your horse today with your crying.
Ya did not catch his interview (CC Owner) but Post -Oak was all over these guys and after reading what is attributed to him saying after the race today like B3 said this guy is a complete tool. Glad I do not watch the people side of this sport. You got to see that fools true character today...most people can handle success with somewhat grace and they managed to even do that f'd up and a complete meltdown when things did not go their way...LOL...Classless...did he really yell at his wife on tv? Just wow if so.
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06-07-2014 , 10:43 PM
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I am so confused on that rant but I also don't know anything about horse racing. I mean aren't these all completely separated races governed by different bodies? They just make up the "Triple Crown" because someone came up with that name and that these three would comprise it? So it would be like Tiger Woods winning the first 3 majors of the year and failing to win the PGA and then ranting that some guy who didn't qualify for the Masters, US Open, or British Open that wins the final major of the year is a coward and it's not fair to him, right?
It's not a bad analogy, but consider that running the 3 races in 5 weeks could possibly leave a horse less than fresh for the final attempt. I would say every trainer believes this. Personally, I think this aspect is way overblown. The horses that ran in the Derby didn't have any trouble finishing 1, 2, and 4 in the Preakness just two weeks later. It could be a disadvantage, but it's not huge like it's made out to be. To me, it's clear that California Chrome is just not a stayer. He's nasty at shorter distances, but his speed figures have progressively gotten worse the longer he has been stretched out. 1 1/2 miles is too long for him. He won't race at that distance ever again. I said before the Preakness that I thought he would win the Preakness but not the Belmont. The Preakness is a very similar race to the Derby. The Belmont is very different.

But yeah, you are not missing anything. What he said makes no sense. The guy is a clown. Even worse, he was saying weeks ago that you should have to run in each race to run in the next one. That is even sillier than what he said today. The Belmont would be a 3-4 horse races nowadays.
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06-07-2014 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Honcho
Ya did not catch his interview (CC Owner) but Post -Oak was all over these guys and after reading what is attributed to him saying after the race today like B3 said this guy is a complete tool. Glad I do not watch the people side of this sport. You got to see that fools true character today...most people can handle success with somewhat grace and they managed to even do that f'd up and a complete meltdown when things did not go their way...LOL...Classless...did he really yell at his wife on tv? Just wow if so.
In fairness, the "yelling at his wife" part didn't look that bad to me. He was visibly angry and ranting the same stupid stuff he has been for a few weeks now. At one point, his wife (who was behind him) starting nudging him in the ribs cause she clearly did not want him to go off the deep end on national TV. He brushed her hand away and continued ranting. When the interview was over he turned around and she seemed to be telling him to calm down and he seemed to be telling her "No, I am gonna say my piece". He wasn't yelling at her to shut up or anything like that, it was just an angry old dude refusing to be shushed cause he was at the point he didn't give a ****. He should have listened to his wife.

You can see it on youtube.
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