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Old 08-20-2009, 07:38 PM   #626
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well done picking winners through 5 Honcho
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:13 PM   #627
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LOL, Finally hit a pk 4 @ DelMar, me and about 25,000 other people. Paid $58.00, wtf! only invested $8 on the ticket so it was a profit.LOL.


IMO, if either of the connections back out of the proposed race in NY, that horse should not able to win HOY. The race is perfectly spotted 5 weeks before the BC so Zenyatta can still run there and no synthetics for Jackson to whine about. There are no excuses not to run. Kudos for NYRA for trying to give the fans what they want. If the owners are afraid to sack up ,then fine but you can't dodge this race and still win HOY.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:21 PM   #628
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Thanks Ryan,7 for 8 today,only went against BBLB in the 2nd because he is a 7F specialist,didnt think he would win a 6F.

Try to cap tomorrows card and get picks in,still waiting on mri results,no call by 4pm tomorrow will be GREAT news for me,they only call back if they find something,pins and needles till 4pm tomorrow.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:05 PM   #629
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LOL, Finally hit a pk 4 @ DelMar, me and about 25,000 other people. Paid $58.00, wtf! only invested $8 on the ticket so it was a profit.LOL.


IMO, if either of the connections back out of the proposed race in NY, that horse should not able to win HOY. The race is perfectly spotted 5 weeks before the BC so Zenyatta can still run there and no synthetics for Jackson to whine about. There are no excuses not to run. Kudos for NYRA for trying to give the fans what they want. If the owners are afraid to sack up ,then fine but you can't dodge this race and still win HOY.
I agree with you on NYRA doing a good job and trying to get this done,but completely disagree with your opinion RA has to run,and or beat Zenyatta for HOY.

RA won a big 3 (Preakness),doing so beat MTB the Kentucky Derby champ. RA also won the Haskell in record fashion,smacking down the Belmont winner Summer Bird. So why does RA have to beat Zenyatta? Hell thats a HOY resume for RA right there IMO. She has beaten every 3 year old thrown at her,and doesnt have to win or race again this year to win HOY IMO.

Quality Road could win the BC classic by 20,and still not get HOY,he missed the big 3 because of injury.

And i am a huuuuge Zenyatta fan,but she cannot beat RA period! If you remember the Haskell,RA couldnt get the lead as her normal style,she was smart enough to understand that,stalk the leaders,then pounce and destroy,and destroy she did. She showed he smarts in that race especially.

The race would go like this,RA would have a 20 length lead into the far turn,and when Zenyatta made her move (shes only a one run horse) she would fall short by 5 still.

I understand lots of people would love to see this race,(im not one of them) but i dont think RA has to prove a thing to me anymore this year.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:59 PM   #630
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Del Mar 8/20/09

1.) 5-1-2
2.) 3-2
3.) 6-3-7
4.) 2-4-1
5.) 3-8-9
6.) 9-1a-3
7.) 4-5-6
8.) 4-10-6

I dont see much value in todays card,i capped it,but will pass on wagering today.
Awesome! I'm not around for the first half of the card for Del Mar tomorrow, but I am around Sat and Sun. Hope you cap them and post here.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:10 PM   #631
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I am not about to get into this debate again, it's just maddening. As I understand it . this is not a match race. Of course RA would win and match race and because of there running styles it wouldn't prove a thing. I am a fan of horse racing and in this era of ship all the good horses off to the breeding shed for risk of injury or God forbid they lose and there value goes down, we are left to just speculate what would happen if... We now have a chance to see it on the track and it is incumbent upon these owners to make it happen. The only reason it won' happen is if one of them back out and I don't think they should. We could sit here and poke holes in both these horses resume and it doesn't mean a dam. Let's see them run on the track.
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Old 08-20-2009, 11:38 PM   #632
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Just a little story...

Played golf at Willow Metropark on Wednesday morning. The course happens to be only a couple miles from Pinnacle Race Course(near Detroit Metro Airport). When my buddy asked if I had time for lunch I replied "follow me."

So we sit for lunch and a little simulcast action. A quick run of my trip handicapping system reveals an "auto play" in race 3 at Monticello. The only problem is the horse has been laid off for a bit after being involved in an accident in his last race. Keep in mind this is a small time NW race.

The horse is still 5/2 on the morning line but gets off at 4:1 with my $10WP and trifecta and superfecta wagers. He gets a seat in third, quarter moves to the top and looks unbeatable. The favorite is far back and disinterested in moving into a slow pace. I am golden.

Then the mediocre driver ducks the left wheels inside two pylons in the final turn and goes on to win. My buddy is excited. I am ****ting a brick. So I head to the head and while washing my face look into the mirror and pledge to never bet a simulcast race ever again if they take this horse down.

On my way back to the table I look up and see that they left it up. Likely there wasn't even an inquiry. ****. I almost found a way out. Nice little score anyway and my buddy was impressed - which means more than money now doesn't it.

Then my wife called. Degen.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:05 AM   #633
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I am not about to get into this debate again, it's just maddening. As I understand it . this is not a match race. Of course RA would win and match race and because of there running styles it wouldn't prove a thing. I am a fan of horse racing and in this era of ship all the good horses off to the breeding shed for risk of injury or God forbid they lose and there value goes down, we are left to just speculate what would happen if... We now have a chance to see it on the track and it is incumbent upon these owners to make it happen. The only reason it won' happen is if one of them back out and I don't think they should. We could sit here and poke holes in both these horses resume and it doesn't mean a dam. Let's see them run on the track.
I understand everything you just said,and as a fan i agree...to a point....I only was referring to your HOY statement.
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Old 08-21-2009, 12:32 AM   #634
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Awesome! I'm not around for the first half of the card for Del Mar tomorrow, but I am around Sat and Sun. Hope you cap them and post here.
Thanks Noddy!
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:04 AM   #635
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I understand everything you just said,and as a fan i agree...to a point....I only was referring to your HOY statement.
Fair enough. Also no love for my $58 pk 4. LOLOLOLOLOLOL,j/k fml
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:17 AM   #636
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Then the mediocre driver ducks the left wheels inside two pylons in the final turn and goes on to win.

I look up and see that they left it up.
They never take these down.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:03 AM   #637
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I agree with you on NYRA doing a good job and trying to get this done,but completely disagree with your opinion RA has to run,and or beat Zenyatta for HOY.

RA won a big 3 (Preakness),doing so beat MTB the Kentucky Derby champ. RA also won the Haskell in record fashion,smacking down the Belmont winner Summer Bird. So why does RA have to beat Zenyatta? Hell thats a HOY resume for RA right there IMO. She has beaten every 3 year old thrown at her,and doesnt have to win or race again this year to win HOY IMO.

Quality Road could win the BC classic by 20,and still not get HOY,he missed the big 3 because of injury.

And i am a huuuuge Zenyatta fan,but she cannot beat RA period! If you remember the Haskell,RA couldnt get the lead as her normal style,she was smart enough to understand that,stalk the leaders,then pounce and destroy,and destroy she did. She showed he smarts in that race especially.

The race would go like this,RA would have a 20 length lead into the far turn,and when Zenyatta made her move (shes only a one run horse) she would fall short by 5 still.

I understand lots of people would love to see this race,(im not one of them) but i dont think RA has to prove a thing to me anymore this year.
I agree, but it really doesn't matter. RA's connections would definitely participate in this, but Zenyatta's are unlikely to, despite the quote from Shirrefs.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:25 AM   #638
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Got some interesting promotional thing from Ellis Park in mail today...a mystery cash voucher good for saturday 22nd only...guaranteed payouts of up to 1000.00 etc... neat idea
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:18 PM   #639
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Del Mar 8/21/09

1.) 8-6-4
2.) 3-6-2
3.) 4-6-7
4.) 4-2-7
5.) 2-6-3
6.) 11-7-8
7.) 6-9-8
8.) 8-11-5
9.) 11-8-6

Todays card looks like there is some decent value,the 1st race looks like a blanket finish to me,very competitive. Im going to play select PK3's,and rolling DD's today. Sure im going to play the late PK4,try to get my exact ticket up before the 6th.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:16 PM   #640
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Not very good today,-144 on the day.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:21 AM   #641
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looking at entries today and noticed AR Napravnik is skipping out on all of DE's stakes for laurel. probably will be betting her dark nearly ever race.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:15 PM   #642
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I like Sidney's Candy in race 7 at Del Mar today. I have her marked that she looked good in her last race. Not sure what that means, but I'm betting that horse today.
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:18 PM   #643
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Del Mar 8/22/09 Races 1-4

1.) 3-2-5
2.) 5-6-2
3.) 8-3-6
4.) 3-4-9

Looks like there is some value to be had in the front 4,very competitive start.
Running a little behind today,will get exact PK4 ticket in before the 7th today.
Front 4 im playing 2 pk3's,and rolling DD's,little hair of the dog.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:37 PM   #644
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Del Mar 8/22/09 Late PK4

7.) 1-2-6-7-8
8.) 1-4-5-7-9
9.) 1a-4-5-8-11
10.) 6

Ticket $125

-48 on races 1-4 with my plays today
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I like Sidney's Candy in race 7 at Del Mar today. I have her marked that she looked good in her last race. Not sure what that means, but I'm betting that horse today.
Nice one Noddy! I trust my virtual stable and notes huge. New track record to go along with great notes from Noddy,WD.
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:56 PM   #646
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looking at entries today and noticed AR Napravnik is skipping out on all of DE's stakes for laurel. probably will be betting her dark nearly ever race.
6 races - 3 wins 1 third for her today
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Del Mar 8/22/09 Late PK4

7.) 1-2-6-7-8
8.) 1-4-5-7-9
9.) 1a-4-5-8-11
10.) 6

Ticket $125

-48 on races 1-4 with my plays today
Ok now that my taxi duties are done,i can get to my totals. I played the back 4 like the front,2 PK3's,and rolling DD's.

DD's- invested $54, profit $366.20
PK3's- invested $54, profit $617.10,took $48 from early play losses out of this total.
PK4- invested $125, profit $314.90, #1 getting loose and getting scratched cost me $250
Total Profit on the day $1298.20,subtract my -144 from Friday and im up $1100.00 for the weekend,taking tomorrow off.
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Ok now that my taxi duties are done,i can get to my totals. I played the back 4 like the front,2 PK3's,and rolling DD's.

DD's- invested $54, profit $366.20
PK3's- invested $54, profit $617.10,took $48 from early play losses out of this total.
PK4- invested $125, profit $314.90, #1 getting loose and getting scratched cost me $250
Total Profit on the day $1298.20,subtract my -144 from Friday and im up $1100.00 for the weekend,taking tomorrow off.
VN, I just looked at some angles for today and here are some things that caught my eye:

R8 at delmar - bel air sizzle 12-1 ML. I replayed her last 4 races and everytime she closed it seemed like the front pack just always managed to be that much faster. I don't think she's out of form at all and the fact that she ran last week is irrelevant since they've done this with her before and she still hits the board/wins.

R7 at calder - medaglia d'onore 5/2 ML. A very solid medaglia d'oro horse that should clean up here.

R4 at saratoga - EA 2/1 ML. Qualifies for this AoC race due to the restrictions which is great for him. 2nd in 500k ctown 1 1/8, dead heated 2nd in pimlico 100k 1 1/6, and this is just a 60k aoc 1 1/8.
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R7 at calder - medaglia d'onore 5/2 ML. A very solid medaglia d'oro horse that should clean up here.
I'm singling this horse in the .50 pick four.

Good Luck!
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:34 PM   #650
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TY Ian, i put up the totals for Kev. Before i knew Kev i was happy just cashing out when i hit a certain number,but hes a sick sob and now i know terms like,roi,+ev,stupid ***** like that

Good Luck with your plays today guys,riding the pine today here.
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