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Old 08-07-2009, 11:00 PM   #551
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Late PK4 Del Mar 8/7/09

6.) 1-5-6-8
7.) 4-5-6
8.) 6-9-10
9.) 5-6-9

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Old 08-08-2009, 12:25 AM   #552
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I've been following your full race card selections at Del Mar, and your top 3 pick selections frequently generate some nice value plays in exactas. How do you usually play your selections (specialize in multi-race bets? exotics? wps? etc)? Are you an "every race" guy or do you key your best selections?

And, oh yeah, awesome score! ...
$1 Pick 4 (3/5-6-10-6) 4 Correct Paid $2,794.60
Thank You Centaurmyth,Noddy,Simon.
I made profit on the day $3796.30,total wagered was $198. Hit late pk4,DD 7th and 8th,DD 8th and 9th,pk3 6-8,and pk3 7-9. I guess that should kinda give you an idea how i wager Centaurmyth,as simple as i can explain it is: 1-I cap the card,2-i compare my selections against the ML,when i see value i like i mark my program 3-if i see value in consecutive races i play DD's,pk3's,pk4's..etc...Like i said before the meet started in mid july,Del Mar offered great payouts in the DD pools,pk3 and 4 pools,different than Hollywood and Santa Anita. Thanks again guys
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:17 AM   #553
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WTG Honcho!
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:18 AM   #554
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And, oh yeah, awesome score! ...
$1 Pick 4 (3/5-6-10-6) 4 Correct Paid $2,794.60
WD sir. I have found the Del Mar meet unplayable. I am glad someone is getting the money.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:16 PM   #555
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WTG Honcho!
Thanks Kev,and fthack.
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:31 PM   #556
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Einstein at 4-1 or better in Arlington Million today, also exacta box with Gio Ponti.
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #557
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Commentator at 3-2 or better in the Whitney today across the board.
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:12 PM   #558
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Del Mar 8/8/09

1.) 1-6-4
2.) 6-4-5
3.) 8-5-7
4.) 7-8-3


7.) 4-7-2
8.) 1-5-4
9.) 6-7-5
10.) 11-1-7

I only capped the front and back 4 races today,left the middle cheap races out. There are prices again all over today,in the late 4 races especially. I will try to get my exact late pk 4 in before the 7th,going to bet same today as yesterday.

Im a big Gio Ponti fan,should be a good race. Watching Arlington,and Saratoga also today.

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Old 08-08-2009, 04:27 PM   #559
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http://drf.com/news/article/106210.html

Bridge-jumpers fall in First Episode
By Rowland Hoyt
A huge wager in the place pool on Saturday's First Episode Stakes at Suffolk Downs made for eye-popping returns when 2-5 favorite Ask Queenie finished third, six lengths behind winner Southoftheborder.

Ask Queenie was going for her 19th career victory in a Massachusetts-bred stakes but could not sustain her rally in the mile and 70-yard race. She then lost the photo finish for second by a head to pacesetting Lily's Goldmine.

There was $101,883 in the place pool of the race - $100,000 of which was bet on Ask Queenie. Southoftheborder returned $7.60 to win and $26 to place. Lily's Goldmine returned $52 to place.

Suffolk often suspends show wagering on statebred races because of the history of the program producing dominant horses with very little competition. Massachusetts also breaks to the dime, offering larger dividends compared to other racing states.
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:28 PM   #560
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Tomorrow Zenyatta running at Del Mar

Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000


1 1 Tidal Dance Valdivia J Jr Eurton Peter 119 L 30-1
2 2 Patricia's Gem Espinoza V Mandella Richard 119 L 10-1
3 3 Briecat Garcia M Cerin Vladimir 119 L 20-1
4 4 Dawn After Dawn Quinonez A Sadler John W 119 L 20-1
5 5 Champagne Eyes Rosario J O'Neill Doug 119 L 12-1
6 6 Hot n' Dusty Solis A Abrams Barry 119 L 30-1
7 7 Life Is Sweet Gomez G K Shirreffs John 123 L 3-1
8 8 Anabaa's Creation (IRE) Baze T C Canani Julio C 119 L 20-1
9 9 Lethal Heat Talamo J Abrams Barry 119 L 20-1
10 10 Zenyatta Smith M E Shirreffs John 123 L 3-5
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:32 PM   #561
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Commentator at 3-2 or better in the Whitney today across the board.
Across the board? What will you get for second maybe 1-2? For third you will get maybe 1-4?

Just bet Commentator to win ...he will either win and come off the board.



http://drf.com/news/article/106163.html

A victory would put him in rarefied company along with five-time Horse of the Year Kelso (1961, 63, 65) and the champion Discovery (1934-36) as the only three-time winners of this prestigious handicap race.

At 8 years old, Commentator would join Kelso as the oldest horse to win the Whitney, a race being run for the 82nd time on Saturday.
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:54 PM   #562
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Thanks for the advice noob.
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:02 PM   #563
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Late PK4 Del Mar 8/8/09

7.) 2-4-6-9-10
8.) 1
9.) 5-6-7-9
10.) 1-6-7-9-11

$100 Ticket

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Old 08-09-2009, 01:10 PM   #564
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Bored out of my mind today. Going to take a stab at the Saratoga card.

$1 Early Pick 4 (cost $18):

R2: 3,5,8
R3: 1,3,8
R4: 8
R5: 5,7
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:17 PM   #565
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Bored out of my mind today. Going to take a stab at the Saratoga card.

$1 Early Pick 4 (cost $18):

R2: 3,5,8
R3: 1,3,8
R4: 8
R5: 5,7
Hit it - paid $64.25 for $1 wager.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:28 PM   #566
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Saratoga $1 Late Pick 4 ($12 cost)

R8: 3,5
R9: 3,4
R10: 6
R11: 2,5,9

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Might play a cheap Pick 6 ticket. I might avoid it just because Race 6 is a mess and I would hate to lose it in the first leg. If I do, add:

R6: 6,10
R7: 4
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:08 PM   #567
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Del Mar 8/9/09

1.) 2-3-6
2.) 6-4-7
3.) 3-6-1
4.) 4-1-2
5.) 8-7-1
6.) 2-9-10
7.) 5-3-2
8.) 10-5-7 *
9.) 1-9-6
10.) 3-14-12

Today should be a good day at Del Mar,down -154 for yesterday for the record. I am going to be playing a few DD's early,then the late pk4.

* My virtual stable and notes say the #5 horse Champagne Eyes wins the CLHrsch-G1,but to beat Zenyatta? I never go against my VS and notes,this is my 1st time since ive been capping,but i am more loyal than smart i know this. She has made me too much $$ to go against,well ever,just a weird spot came up 1st time for me today.
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:18 PM   #568
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Del Mar 8/9/09

1.) 2-3-6
2.) 6-4-7
3.) 3-6-1
4.) 4-1-2
5.) 8-7-1
6.) 2-9-10
7.) 5-3-2
8.) 10-5-7 *
9.) 1-9-6
10.) 3-14-12

Today should be a good day at Del Mar,down -154 for yesterday for the record. I am going to be playing a few DD's early,then the late pk4.

* My virtual stable and notes say the #5 horse Champagne Eyes wins the CLHrsch-G1,but to beat Zenyatta? I never go against my VS and notes,this is my 1st time since ive been capping,but i am more loyal than smart i know this. She has made me too much $$ to go against,well ever,just a weird spot came up 1st time for me today.
Well up profit $261.90 with both DD's and the PK3,told a buddy if i made money early i would play his home game,so no late pk4 for me today.
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:56 PM   #569
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Well up profit $261.90 with both DD's and the PK3,told a buddy if i made money early i would play his home game,so no late pk4 for me today.
my pk4 ticket today for $36 big ones:

7) 2,3,5
8) 5,10
9) 2,6,7
10) 3,14

very similar to what Honcho liked, but didn't even see his until I put my ticket in. hmmm.....
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:37 AM   #570
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Very nice stretch run of Zenyatta and a very good photo finish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTcTiYuY9AQ


Del Mar | Posted 8/9/2009, 10:04 pm

Zenyatta grabs 12th win in Hirsch
By Jay Privman
DEL MAR, Calif. - Zenyatta ran her perfect record to 12 races by rallying belatedly to win the Grade 1, $300,000 Clement Hirsch Stakes, overcoming a dawdling pace and an admittedly overconfident ride from her jockey, Mike Smith, to satisfy an adoring crowd on Sunday at Del Mar.

Last in the field of seven with five-sixteenths a mile to go, Zenyatta ($2.40) was taken to the middle of the track by Smith and closed furiously to remain unbeaten. She just got up to win by a head, the smallest margin of victory in her career. She finished the final five-sixteenths of a mile in approximately 28.20 seconds, and ran the final sixteenth of a mile in less than six seconds. The final time was slow, 1:43.24, but was a function of a race shape - fractions of 48.84 seconds for a half-mile and 1:13.64 for six furlongs - that worked against Zenyatta.

"Did I scare ya?" Smith yelled to Zenyatta's trainer, John Shirreffs, when he brought Zenyatta back to the winner's circle.

Later, Smith said, "I underestimated the competition."

"I was tracking Life Is Sweet," Smith said of the race's second choice, also trained by Shirreffs. "When she made her move, I made my move. But the leaders skipped away. But she reached out with that stride, and she was just pricking her ears. She galloped out like a machine. That last quarter-mile she felt like a Quarter Horse. And she wasn't even breathing after the race."

Zenyatta prevailed by a head over Anabaa's Creation, a 22-1 shot who took the lead from pacesetter Lethal Heat with a sixteenth of a mile to go. Lethal Heat finished third, three-quarters of a length farther back. Life Is Sweet, Dawn After Dawn, Tidal Dance, and Champagne Eyes completed the order of finish.

Fans were at least six deep around the paddock before the race, and every inch of every level on the terraces above the paddock was filled with fans. They cheered Zenyatta when she left the paddock, but saved their biggest cheer for when she returned to the winner's circle, a moment that brought a smile to Shirreffs's face.

"What Zenyatta has done is incredible," Shirreffs said. "To race at a high level, in Grade 1 competition, and continue to win over and over is a measure of her class and constitution."

Shirreffs and Jerry Moss, who owns Zenyatta with his wife, Ann, have made no commitments to her next start, but seem to be leaning toward the Lady's Secret at Santa Anita's Oak Tree meeting as a final prep to their year-end goal, the Breeders' Cup.

"That's what the Thoroughbred industry did, create a venue for the best horses in the country, and the world, to come together," Shirreffs said. "Certainly you want to support that."

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Old 08-10-2009, 02:16 AM   #571
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Mike Smith nearly blew it this time.

Zenyatta was forced to close a ton into a lead that appeared to run the last 5/16s in :30 flat. And they claim she wasn't gassed after race. Oh my. If you haven't seen it sorry for the spoiler, but you need to view the race at http://www.bloodhorse.com.
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Old 08-10-2009, 12:43 PM   #572
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Mike Smith nearly blew it this time.

Zenyatta was forced to close a ton into a lead that appeared to run the last 5/16s in :30 flat. And they claim she wasn't gassed after race. Oh my. If you haven't seen it sorry for the spoiler, but you need to view the race at http://www.bloodhorse.com.
I didnt like the distance for her yesterday,and Smith did damn near blow it,he has never been a fav of mine. Anabaa's Creation (IRE) ran a winning race!...But Zenyatta is a big black freak who refused to lose yesterday.

For being gassed,i didnt think she was either IMO,that was my post race observations,looked like her ears were pricked forward,no visable kidney sweat,and no heaving from her rib cage. She actually looked leaner to me than she was earlier in the year.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:53 PM   #573
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From the "You Have Got to Be Kidding" file...

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Old 08-12-2009, 07:03 PM   #574
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There is so much pride in horse racing.

If I owned Zenyatta I would ask them to up the offer so the loser of the race gets $1,000,000 and go for it. It would just be a public workout. Run her along behind RA, don't hurt the horse, collect $1,000,000 and go home for the Breeders Cup.
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There is so much pride in horse racing.

If I owned Zenyatta I would ask them to up the offer so the loser of the race gets $1,000,000 and go for it. It would just be a public workout. Run her along behind RA, don't hurt the horse, collect $1,000,000 and go home for the Breeders Cup.
There is no way either would want to lose this race just for money. However, I think Zenyatta crew would jump on this offer as Zenyatta is 5 years old and has $2M earnings and just for one race to get $800K-$1.2M is worth it. I know Steven A. knows Sam Houston very well and he is always leading trainer there and could probably convince Jess Jackson to go for this. I do agree it would be kinda stupid for these two horses to do a match race I would love to see it but I think a regular race would be much better. But Sam Houston??? LOL

If they do match my goodness would Rachel Alexandra be such a huge favorite in odds over Zenyatta.
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