Mayweather says that he knows boxing better than anyone else in the world and he can guarantee that Canelo will knock GGG out, this seems like a reasonable tip so I was thinking about having a punt on that. What does anyone else think?

By the way I'm surprised there's no thread about this, does no one care about boxing or is this not an interesting fight from a betting perspective?

That comment was over a year ago I believe. He has pulled back from that but still thinks Canelo will win.

In my heart I love Canelo by UD and because Mayweather believes this too. Floyd Sr has a really low opinion of GGG skills.

It is a 50/50 fight so you should bet "heads" at +130 as a no brainer.

The key to the fight is Canelo's chin and cardio with the added weight. It really isn't knowable with the information at hand before the fight.
To me the most probable outcome too is that Canelo can land enough punches to take enough of GGG punches to hold up chin wise the distance with his combination punches just looking better to steal rounds. Then you also get any shadiness with the judging outcome for free. GGG is not going to rob Canelo. These are really just justifications for betting on heads in a coin flip though at +130 for me though.

Mayweather beat Canelo so has some self-interest in Canelo winning (i.e., can say he easily whipped the guy who beat GGG if Canelo wins). That's not to say he doesn't genuinely believe Canelo will win but there is some bias there IMO.

Here's my analysis and prediction for the fight (I don't really see it as 50/50 like some are saying):

http://masterclassboxing.blogspot.co...-analysis.html

HBO very pro-Canelo in the commentary. Most pundits thought GGG got it.

It ends as a draw.

Great fight, disgusting result. I can live with a draw, but Byrds scorecard saying 118-110 to Alvarez is ****ing disgrace. This means that **** gave Alvarez 10 rounds out of 12, which never happened. GGG won that fight and i was rooting for Canelo pre-match..

Put a judge in a subjective spot with tens of millions of $ to be decided... what could go wrong?

ok, a pretty dumb question...
I was in vegas in june and put $150 on ggg. Since the fight ended in a draw am I getting my $150 back or was it a complete disgusting loss for me? Never bet boxing before so I need to know how pissed I should be. thanks in advance.

Byrd should be publicly flogged. LOLBOXING

I believe it depends on whether it was a 2-way market (you will get a dead heat payout or a push/void depending on book rules if so) or a 3 way market where betting the draw was an option in which case it's a loss - i'm sure you could call the book in question and ask what their rules are for the market you bet if you don't remember

Byrd should never judge boxing or MMA again. She's famous for MMA scorecards too like Rocha/Ellenberger, Guillard/Varner and Garcia/Phan where she put in absolutely unforgivable scorecards in some cases being the lone dissenting judge on every single round.

Someone really should look into her personal finances for signs of a payoff this time, and if she wasn't paid off she's so incompetent she should never judge combat sports again

It's certainly outrageous that Adalaide Byrd scored it 10 rounds to 2 in favour of Canelo.

I suppose with hindsight that knowing she was one of the three judges would have meant that there was something possibly fishy about this fight, and one had to factor in who she would have been favouring.

How she is still allowed to be a judge is incredulous...if it's a case of tokenism there must be other women who can judge a fight. It's bizarre, I can't think offhand of other female judges who are out there.

It seems to be a 'closed shop' as to who is and who isn't allowed to be a judge.

It's so thoroughly stupid surely there are some retired female boxers/mma fighters who can judge fights competent in combat sports

Of course it's tokenism. They are all an extended family there where nepotism and corruption is rampant. It's been this way forever. Did you not see her husband (who is almost as awful at his job as her) ref the fight earlier?

Lederman even said on air De Luca was her daughter's boyfriend who is also a judge (lolz).

Atta Laid

Betting on boxing has done me dirty. If it is left in the judge's hands, who knows what will happen. You should get your money back. I bet $600 on Canelo, and was able to get my money back, but lost my small prop bets ( Because they didn't happen). I guess, it depends though, on the casino you laid the bet at. You should get it returned though.

I personally felt Canelo won that fight, not 118-110 though lol. I had him winning 7 out of the 12 rounds though. Even though GGG landed more punches, it was at a lower % and most were weak jabs. Canelo landed more power shots, and just inflicted more damage overall. I do need to rewatch the fight, but it just looked like GGG was slow and really did not do much to Canelo. Canelo made him miss pretty often and countered well. I think Canelo just made a big mistake with the showboating, and taking parts of rounds "Off" letting GGG keep the pressure on. It made GGG look like the aggressor, but he really didn't land anything great except that one right hook? It didn't seem to hurt Canelo though, he brushed it off, and kept fighting. At the same time, none of Canelos punches seemed to faze GGG either though. GGG is a freak though, incredible strength, and I don't think any middleweight could knock him out.

I know this isn't how a decision is made in boxing, but look at GGG's face after the fight compared to Canelo. Huge difference. Canelo actually caused some damage, while GGG was swinging at air or landing weak shots.

Either way, I figured if GGG let it go to the judges, Canelo would get it. Hence, my bet for Canelo. I didn't think GGG would knock him out, and because Canelo has notoriously had "Favorable" scores from judges in Vegas, I figured it was a +EV bet to make.

I know my opinion is different than many, so I am going to rewatch the fight right now. I am not biased either way though, I am a fan of both GGG and Canelo. They both are great fighters, and last night was a good fight. The draw was a pretty weak ending and a letdown, but I guess they are trying to set up a big money rematch. Who else does anyone want to pay to see fight? With the exception of hardcore boxing fans, most people don't even know of many other boxers now that the "Floyd Era" is over. I would like to see a rematch, and I think Canelo will take the W. He is still developing as a fighter, and just now reaching his prime. While GGG has had a great career and is just a freak of nature, but age catches up with everyone. He is getting up there in age and isn't going to improve his skills that much by this point in his career. So I would take Canelo in a rematch any day.

I do have to wonder about that 118-110 card though
Once I heard that, I was like oh Canelo has it, and then tie, tie, Draw! lol oh well, at least I didn't lose my bet. I pushed my main bet, and then won/lost some smaller prop bets.

It is crazy though, betting aside, something needs to change in boxing. There have been way too many fights that seem to be "Fixed", or just are scored terribly. I mean with all the BS that has happened just recently even, I see a lot of people just not buying fights anymore, let alone betting on them. Now that Floyd is gone for good, who are going to be the next "Superstars"?

I see Canelo being one of them. I mean he is only 27, and is 49/1/2. That is a damn good pro record for that age. Aside from him, who is there? Andre Ward, Lomachenko, and I guess Terrance Crawford. Who knows though, maybe someone will emerge and get boxing back on track. I don't think it will ever return to its "Glory Day's" though. I think more and more talented fighters will go the UFC/MMA route, and eventually the money will even out.

That's what else is crazy. Before PPV shares, Canelo got 5M and GGG got 3M for the fight last night. Put that in perspective to the 350 Million Floyd got last month for what was essentially a "Show". No disrespect to Conor, because I would do the same if I was in his position, but come on. Canelo and GGG went out there to fight, and even though I personally don't think it lived up to the hype, it was still fun to watch and was a good fight. Not many fights live up to the hype though. One of them needed to be KO'ed, and many thought GGG would do it, but I just thought that Canelo's movement and Chin would get him through all 12 rounds, where he would pick up the win from the Judges who have historically been "On his side".