as far as i am aware legends live forever ....long live to them

imo just not a progressive line of tough...in the end of the phrase, the conversation end lol ! i haven't seen theoretical specific on particular sports...at least there's no debate/collaboration/elaboration of idea..(beside mma) stuck in the mud!
and obv that not all your fault lolll this stuff has been cultivated for a long time on this forum!
personally i have no idea where are those recreational forum...it just happen that i play poker too !

& oh please dont leave like that

Honest question, from a rec - How do you get paid from whales who are stuck?

Have the whale be independently wealthy and/or have an income source that isn't gambling related - there is such a thing as the businessman who bets on sport (and plays poker) and loses happily because he is a rec, and when he finds someone willing to help him win instead he's usually happy about that. Also, settle regularly, settle after the first bet that your side wins to make sure you'll get paid, etc build trust from there. Don't keep enormous balances with people, just settle up regularly, in my jurisdiction gambling winnings are tax free no having a ton of transfers between people isn't an issue as long as they're clearly marked and you make sure not to do business with people who are into anything illegal.

Obv i'm not having random broke degens place bets for me that money would disappear - like everyone else i've learned that lesson for myself although I haven't lost as much to theft as most i'd imagine

I don't want to go into too many details for obvious reasons but the answer to 'why dont people steal from you' is 'tiny deposit/run it up tiny/have them send back first before having larger sums with anyone'

The thief will steal at first chance even if it's a couple k or whatever when waiting would have yielded a bigger score

That said i've been stolen from but never more than a couple units at a time because I always deposit a single unit into the first account when someone's betting for me, then have them settle with me when I win my first bet. Anyone who is going to steal steals that first unit when it's 4 figs or more. I've maybe 2% or so of the people ive had bet for me steal from me to date. I actually got paid back two out of the three times too in the end.