Just a bit....no prob though
-9u over the 5 bets...........+37u from the 281 posted bets previous to that.
Not many CL but the prem is my most bet on league

Astyanax, do you sportsbet for a living? If so then what I'm about to say probably doesn't apply. Perhaps however if you're betting, however in-depth and seriously, as a fun hobby you enjoy in your spare time, you might take into account the actual entertainment value in watching the respective games. I assume premiership football is more exciting than Israeli?

Of course you are totally right, it is much more exciting. I just question the value to be found on games the whole world has access to information about, simples.

beating closing lines on EPL/Champions League games is nigh on impossible. The market is very efficient. Doesn't help when guys like Tony Bloom know Sir Alex's teamsheet before even Mike Phelan does.

Not true of all top leagues in Europe, however.

Bet on Bayern to score both halfs, 1u @ roughly evens.

Wigan to beat Bolton 1u @ roughly 5/4

Bayern to keep a clean sheet 1u @ roughly 6/4.

Total loss roughly 1u

The underground betting market in Malaysia and Thailand.

Hi guys, im new here and im new to sportsbetting as well and am trying to get an understanding of it.

this is where im having trouble:

lets take an actual soccer match
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win draw lose
2.00 2.90 2.80

there are only 3 possible outcomes which can be noted as being 100%
if 2 complete equal teams would play 100 matches in theory the outcome could be:
33% win
33% draw
33% lose
making up for the 100%

now lets take a look at the quotes
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2.00 100/2.00 = 50%
2.90 100/2.90 = 34.5%
2.80 100/2.80 = 35.7%
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120.2%

how is it these quotes never are equalized to 100% and how am i to go about using that information that i am now missing so to speak?


lets take another look:

for team a to win the odds are 50%
if they win more the bookmaker will lose

BUT

you could also look it from another angle

team a has to win more than 70.7% (2.90/34.5% +2.80/35.7%) to make a profit


hopefully somebody can help me out on this

oh and...sorry for being noobish on the subject

thats the juice:

http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/jl/g/Juice.htm

Apart from on something like Betfair the odds never add up to 1.

don't forget commission! Arbers do regularly get 96% and lower but you can't get much on and they close your accounts obv.

Yes but I was just referring to the guys question re the odds not adding up. Betfair take 10% commish iirc. Although that might depend on various things.

Mh, betfair does take 5% of the winnings and they somehow reduce that commission depending on the amount of points you collected...

But it's very tough to get the commission significantly reduced, so for anyone betting smallish or medium amounts it is ~5%.

please stop posting, this thread has become polluted with your negative vibes and quite frankly when i wake up in the morning to check this thread i become slightly depressed

Doncaster V Leicester 1u @ 2.7

Benfica -1
Swindon -1
Bury
Colchester
Oldham +1 (playing Leeds, Leeds prob bounce back and hammer them but what the hell)

It's not like giving advice for a poker hand saying 'your best move would be not to play'..I am giving advice from what I know as well contributing tips. Of course we can go HU4rollz on a tipping contest? I will have plenty of backers..

Saying that bookmaker juice on a certain site is too big is not negative, it's reality and in this case was answering someone's Q. Expressing an opinion that something may not be value is what it is, an opinion. Anyway, gl to everyone (too positive for you?).

edit: Not too sure why I even responded, whatever gl.

Don't feed the troll with 57 posts.

i'm not sure but i think Jerm was kidding

Ok so did this bet but left out Oldham and put in Norwich. **** Colchester, game is ppd.

Benfica won 4-0 so 1 down before the rest KO.

God I am stupid. Meant to bet on over 2.5 in the Barca Stuttgart but accidentally bet on the unders. Here's hoping I lose the bet I meant to make!

Also have bet on the Olympiakos game under 1.5 goals.

Hold?

God I have to lol at myself. Oh well ship it .

Profit roughly 2.2u

Dont bet against the Mighty Norwich. Thats just standard

Just got back from the game. Wat an ending

**** Bury! ****s!

Inter V Chel Dutch 0-0,1-0 risking 0.4u to win 1.1u