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03-29-2012 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DMMx69
do you cap other leagues largely the same as premier? years ago i had a large DB that included every league and didnt distinguish leagues. i know some are higher/lower scoring or have higher variations in level of play, but it seemed to me you could use largely the same metrics from one to another?

general thoughts on the matter?
the plan is to use the same model. football-data.co.uk has historical results/odds from almost every european leagues 1st and 2nd divisions. so far i have only backtested the epl, championship and la liga. the epl actually was the most profitable although it was a cursory backtest. im gonna keep on working on a better backtest and check out other leagues. the nature of the model makes it almost impossible to do a true backtest (well possible but would take at least 24 hours to run on my computer).

more variation in the level of play could be bad but less variation in the level of play should actually make the model more accurate. this is just due to how my model goes about generating scoring intensity parameters. it assumes all parameters are from the same distribution so less variation is better. im working on a slightly different model to deal with that issue.

my biggest hesitation about trying to cap other leagues is that i dont closely follow any league other than the epl. from my initial backtests it seems that just going based off the model can be profitable but id rather just cap leagues where i can justify the picks im making not just being a number that shoots out of a model

unrelated question. does 5dimes have a xml feed for odds? i do a ton of record keeping for not just all of the picks i make but every game in the epl and being able to scrape data would save me hours of data input
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03-29-2012 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by yeaFMLdegen
the variance in the championship is alot greater, teams are alot closer together in regards to skill. Just look back at the results so far this year, the gap between 3rd>15th isn't that big.

i support a championship side and go watch them on a regular basis, also have a friend who has a season ticket at westham who also agrees with the above statement.
In the championship anyone can be anyone its as simply as that but bet on the in form teams reading an soton helped me loads last month!
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03-30-2012 , 05:32 AM
1-1(+0.1u)yesterday
YTD:60-64-3(+16.48u)

My pick fot today:

Barnet v Torquay United,Torquay United to win,2u to win 2.8u
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03-30-2012 , 11:59 AM
Ytd 107-94-10 +39.98u
Bets on a 1-5u scale

Under 2.5 goals in Villa and Chelsea 1.18u to win 1u
Under 2.5 goals in Everton and West Brom 1.09u to win 1u
Over 2.5 goals in Gunners and QPR 1.4u to win 1u
Draw between Wigan and Stoke 1u to win 2.35u
Over 2.5 goals in Wolves and Bolton 2.8u to win 2u
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03-31-2012 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sayhey69
Norwich Win @ 5.44
QPR Win @ 5.84
Newcastle Win @ 3.14 (my weekly anti-liverpool bet)
ytd: 22-18 +18.612u

adding:

Under 2.5 Everton, WBA @ 1.877
Under 2.5 Fulham, Norwich @ 2.14
Under 3 City, Sunderland @ 1.926
Under 2.5 Newcastle, Liverpool @ 1.962
Under 2.5 Tottenham, Swansea @ 2.09
Sunderland +2 @ 1.826
Swansea +1,1' @1.962

gl
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03-31-2012 , 05:49 AM
1-0(+2.8u)yesterday
YTD:61-64-3(+19.28u)

My picks for today:
FC Motherwell v Glasgow Rangers Over 2.5 goals 2u to win 2.08u
Aston Villa-Chelsea,Chelsea to win,3u to win 2.7u
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03-31-2012 , 06:43 AM
Adding:

Leeds United v Watford Over 2.5 goals 2.2u to win 2u
Carlisle United v Huddersfield Town Over 2.5 goals 2.08u to win 2u
Stevenage FC v Wycombe Wanderers Over 2.5 goals 2u to win 2.02u
Wigan Athletic v Stoke,Wigan Athletic to win,2u to win 3.2u
Bayer Leverkusen v SC Freiburg,Bayer Leverkusen -1 AH,2u to win 2.26u
Werder-Mainz,Werder to win,2u to win 2.4u
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03-31-2012 , 06:50 AM
Fleetwood HT/FT at 5/6 today is a pretty sick bet. Top vs Bottom in the conference. Fleetwood have been brushing everyone aside in the past few months.
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03-31-2012 , 11:02 AM
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Blackpool v Southampton Over 2.5 goals 2u to win 2.08u
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03-31-2012 , 11:30 AM
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Catania v AC Milan,AC Milan to win,2u to win 2.3u
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03-31-2012 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TheVig
Ytd 107-94-10 +39.98u
Bets on a 1-5u scale

Under 2.5 goals in Villa and Chelsea 1.18u to win 1u L
Under 2.5 goals in Everton and West Brom 1.09u to win 1u W
Over 2.5 goals in Gunners and QPR 1.4u to win 1u W
Draw between Wigan and Stoke 1u to win 2.35u L
Over 2.5 goals in Wolves and Bolton 2.8u to win 2u W
3-2 + 1.82u

Ytd 110-96-10 +41.8u
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03-31-2012 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sayhey69
Norwich Win @ 5.44L
QPR Win @ 5.84W
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Originally Posted by sayhey69
ytd: 22-18 +18.612u

adding:

Under 2.5 Everton, WBA @ 1.877W
Under 2.5 Fulham, Norwich @ 2.14L
Under 3 City, Sunderland @ 1.926L
Sunderland +2 @ 1.826W

today: 3-3 +3.543u
ytd: 25-21 +22.155

gl
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03-31-2012 , 12:17 PM
Ytd 110-96-10 +41.8u
Bets on a 1-5u scale

Newcastle to win 1u to win 2.11u
Over 2.5 goals in Spurs and Swans 2.5u to win 2u
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03-31-2012 , 02:38 PM
anyone else agree that the relegation battle is far more interesting than the title race/fight for cl spots? mainly due to the form the teams are in. citys playing like **** but wigan, qpr, bolton are all playing decent to good.
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03-31-2012 , 07:32 PM
it almost always is.
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03-31-2012 , 07:49 PM
yep it almost always goes down to the final game of the season with relegation battles, generally the title race is already over with 3-4 games to go.

kinda glad i never bet on it, QPR are doing the un-thinkable atm!

my football pick for tomorrow, schalke to beat hoffenheim away from home at 7/5
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03-31-2012 , 08:51 PM
Anyone know why Liverpool are favoured against Newcastle? Is it just down to rep or is there another reason?
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03-31-2012 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ecno
Anyone know why Liverpool are favoured against Newcastle? Is it just down to rep or is there another reason?
thats the only reason i can come up with. people want to believe they are still a top team when they are really just a mid table squad. i think its pretty ridiculous that newcastle who is in good form at home and 8 points ahead of liverpool isnt the favorite over a team that is 1-5 in their last 6 games.
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04-01-2012 , 04:24 AM
5-5(+1.86u)yesterday
YTD:66-69-3(+21.14u)

My picks for today:
Newcastle v Liverpool,Newcastle to win,1u to win 2.3u
Newcastle v Liverpool Over 2.5 goals 2u to win 2u
Celtic FC v St Johnstone FC,Celtic -1.5AH,2u to win 2.38
Atlético Madrid v Getafe Over 2.5 goals 2u to win 2u
Real Sociedad v Rayo Vallecano Over 2.5 goals 2.12u to win 2u
Cherno More Varna v Lokomotiv Sofia,Lokomotiv Sofia to win,1u to win 8u
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04-01-2012 , 05:57 AM
Usually in the italian serie A the last 8/9 matches between the teams that fighting for not relegated are "piloted" on the draw.

Some example:

Week 28: Bologna - Chievo 2-2 - X odds 3.00

Week 29: Chievo - Siena 1-1 - X odds 2.50

For this week:

Bologna - Palermo X odds 2.40

Maybe: Cagliari - Atalanta X odds 2.62
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04-01-2012 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TheVig
Ytd 110-96-10 +41.8u
Bets on a 1-5u scale

Newcastle to win 1u to win 2.11u W
Over 2.5 goals in Spurs and Swans 2.5u to win 2u W
2-0 +4.11u

Ytd 112-96-10 +45.91u
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04-01-2012 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sayhey69
Newcastle Win @ 3.14 (my weekly anti-liverpool bet)W
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Originally Posted by sayhey69

Under 2.5 Newcastle, Liverpool @ 1.962W
Under 2.5 Tottenham, Swansea @ 2.09L
Swansea +1,1' @1.962L
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Originally Posted by sayhey69
ytd: 25-21 +22.155
today: 2-2 +1.102u
ytd: 27-23 +23.257

lol at liverpool
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04-01-2012 , 01:33 PM
Ytd 112-96-10 +45.91u
Bets on a 1-5u scale

Over 3 goals in Blackburn and Man United 4u to win 4.2u
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04-01-2012 , 05:37 PM
its a good job i only made 1 bet today, i had a look at the fixtures and made a few picks, pretty sure i would have bricked all of them lol

half time/full time united win at 10/11
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04-01-2012 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sayhey69
today: 2-2 +1.102u
ytd: 27-23 +23.257
United, Blackburn O3 @1.99

gl
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