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Old 03-26-2015, 03:22 PM   #1176
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If the team doesn't stand by him it's pretty damning

I would assume they have access to the replay right to see Marineking's firsthand view?

Will be interesting to see what happens
Not sure about that. I wouldnt be surprised if there is some Kespa rule that prohibits anyone but Kespa officials to access replays, even teams themselfs.
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:16 PM   #1177
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Possibly. In any case if MVP and/or Kespa want to claim no matchfixing took place, the public definitely needs to pressure them to release the replay among other stuff

I'm actually surprised how many people on TL agree that match fixing took place this time after the hostile response last time, although it is a lot easier to see in this case (odds even more skewed + more ridiculous mistakes leading to the loss)
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:21 PM   #1178
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I think its ironic that MKP even sucks at throwing games.

But thanks to that, we could finally get something out of it all.
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Old 03-27-2015, 07:15 AM   #1179
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If pinnacle wont offer any lines for the upcoming Proleague it wont look good at all.

But its wont be surprising tbh.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:09 PM   #1180
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Lines are up. But no Prime once again.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:12 PM   #1181
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I see nice value on Targa vs Snute ml @3.73 and +1.5 1.833. H2H 24-24 overall and 3-3 (2:1 win and 1:2 loss) in WCS qualifier. Targa didn't practice much before WCS and lost both ZvZs to Kane and PIG. However this month he took 1 map from Soulkey and last weekend beat Snute at Norwegian Lan 3:1 in the Grandfinal (he also lost to him 0:2 in the Winner's Finals). Snute also had problem with getting to London, he wrote on his twitter: "After 30 hours of trying to get to London finally made it to a plane!! No luggage tho lol see you at @Gfinity🌟yayyay " 3 hours ago.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:41 PM   #1182
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No Prime match again offered. I wonder if Pinny have info we don't

Found a few spots I like, all official for thread

Proleague

Skyhigh -150 vs Leenock
Cure +150 vs Dark
Dear -108 vs Flash

Gfinity

Jjakji +159 vs Terminator

Dream is really close to a bet vs sOs as well at -107 but i'll hold off since it's marginal and I don't like fading my favourite team unless it's a really good spot like Jjakji vs Term
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:50 PM   #1183
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wow my bets move the lines even further than usual, pinnacle must have my account flagged or something this is ridiculous I could arb two of my bets for profit minutes later
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:04 PM   #1184
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Nice Swoop, i had the same 3 picks before the lines moved - Dear, Cure, Jjakji

Also had Bunny vs Hydra (lost 1:2), and Heart vs Jaedong (won 2:0)

Possibly thinking about getting Dream vs sOs @-110'ish but not sure yet, whats your opinion on this? Also getting Fantasy vs Rain could be an option as well, given that he raped him 3-0 last time.

Meanwhile running very hot @dota2, making 10 units in 3 days or something, and going 9w-2l today for +5 units gain

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Old 03-27-2015, 10:38 PM   #1185
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I lean Dream too but not going to fire it. Would stay away from Fantasy he's still a massive choke artist and while Rain is in a slump he should beat Fantasy in theory a lot

Adding CJ -1.5 -166 officially as well. I just don't see how Startale get this to an ace match all four matches are so heavily favoured for CJ and Startale have looked lost since Life went to KT, Hack has been their only reasonable player and he's not even in the lineup this time, Leenock drew his worst matchup, Pet shouldn't beat Bbyong often, San shouldn't beat herO often and Byul is a good ZvT player against Alive who has barely won in proleague since returning

I'm expecting a 3-0 a lot of the time, and would be shocked if CJ isn't up at least 2-1 after 3 matches, and then herO is a bigger than -166 fav over San so CJ it is.

Crazy how their players have all started playing well at the same time. I still think they'll struggle to beat Jinair/SKTT1/KT unless the matchups line up perfectly for them in the finals though. They've definitely been the best team this round but it'll be tough for them to run through an in form Jinair, SKT or even KT if they can get their players playing well
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:46 PM   #1186
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Shame there are no odds on MVP vs Prime, Prime's lineup might be the worst team ever fielded in Proleague (although Startale's lineup this week is pretty bad too if we're counting Leenock for his ZvT which is probably his worst MU)

Out of form Yoda then Zoun, Keen and Terror...
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Old 03-27-2015, 11:33 PM   #1187
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So this is interesting from Pinnacle

Dear Client,

Unfortunately we have just been informed that we will not be offering Prime's Proleague matches.

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Customer Service Department / Pinnacle Sports

I've asked them what the reasoning is, I doubt we'll get a straight answer
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Old 03-28-2015, 04:16 AM   #1188
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To me thats very odd. Just because no Prime matches were actually voided, we only had suspicious movements on Terrors and Yoda's matches that pinnacle just labeled as "volatile".


Edit : Actually if i recall correctly there was once a very weird big steam on Myungsik, when he won as the underdog against Rogue, but again, not voided.
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Old 03-28-2015, 05:18 AM   #1189
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Dear Client,

We apologize but this information was handed down to us by the traders themselves with no explanation as to why.

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Customer Service Department / Pinnacle Sports


regarding odds no longer being offered on Prime's matches moving forward
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:49 AM   #1190
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Haha Jajjki makes terminator look like an amateur.

That analyst desk is so terrible. They are talking so much nonsense.
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Old 03-28-2015, 03:50 PM   #1191
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Gfinity treating me well

Hydra -156 vs Bunny, win
Targa +242 vs Snute, loss
Heart +110 vs Jaedong, win
Rain -114 vs Fantasy, win
Jjakji +159 vs Terminator, win
Jaedong +146 vs Terminator, win

Pretty cool that Terminator's mom is in charge of the betting lines!
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Old 03-28-2015, 03:52 PM   #1192
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3-0 Today, won Jjakji>Term, JD>Term and MC>Sac
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Old 03-29-2015, 01:01 AM   #1193
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67-42 +14.62u overall
Byul -137 vs Marineking PUSH (win, but cancelled due to suspected matchfixing
Jjakji +159 vs Terminator WIN

68-42 +16.21u overall

Pending

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Skyhigh -150 vs Leenock
Cure +150 vs Dark
Dear -108 vs Flash
CJ Entus -1.5 -166 vs Startale-Yoe

Nothing stands out as super amazing on the next round of Gfinity lines but will take another look later
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Old 03-29-2015, 07:10 AM   #1194
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Decided to fire a couple Gfinity spots may as well make them official. Odds play on Jjakji I think he's a dog but not that big a dog with Rain out of form, and while Soulkeys been crushing ZvP lately Parting's been crushing PvZ vs higher caliber I think he gets the 3-1 a lot. Jjakji will win if Rain plays badly which is what my bet is hoping for.

Jjakji +201
Parting -1.5 +110
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:04 AM   #1195
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lol apparently its bo3 not bo5 oops

In any case, Parting -1.5 wins, Jjakji loses

1-1 +0.1u today

Most people must have thought this was bo5 because the +1.5 lines for True and Heart got steamed as soon as we realised bo3

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Old 03-29-2015, 09:48 AM   #1196
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68-42 +16.21u overall
1-1 +0.1u today
69-43 +16.31u overall

Also put a bit on Rogue -1.5, Rogue, Parting, Parting G1 and Rogue G1 but none of the spots are amazing enough to fire officially. I got +169 on Rogue -1.5 for Semi which is prob the best of the lot.

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Skyhigh -150 vs Leenock
Cure +150 vs Dark
Dear -108 vs Flash
CJ Entus -1.5 -166 vs Startale-Yoe
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Old 03-29-2015, 09:53 AM   #1197
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Is this an SC2 competition or a podcast
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Old 03-29-2015, 10:47 AM   #1198
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http://www.twitch.tv/gfinitytv is today's tournament link

What we're betting on is tournaments/leagues obviously you can't bet on a podcast or maybe I misunderstood the question

They did a lot of talking a while back due to a problem with one of the players or observers computers
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Old 03-29-2015, 12:30 PM   #1199
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http://www.twitch.tv/gfinitytv is today's tournament link

What we're betting on is tournaments/leagues obviously you can't bet on a podcast or maybe I misunderstood the question

They did a lot of talking a while back due to a problem with one of the players or observers computers
It was a joke because they had the crazy long delay in addition to the long waits between games
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:30 AM   #1200
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Adding CJ Hero -186 officially

Also smashed a bunch more in on CJ -1.5 at -141 to improve average price to about -150 (ill double check later). I think CJ win slightly over 80% of the time, and will def win 3-1 or 3-0 over 60% of the time, probably closer to 65%

Skyhigh is available at -147 again too (I got -150)

If Dream gets into decent + territory I may have to fire despite being a Jinair fanboy (-104 atm, I think hes -110 to -120 vs sOs)

If this Startale lineup manages to beat CJ Entus with the way the matches have fallen without any match fixing/suspicious matches I will be extremely shocked. Startale and Prime literally shouldn't beat any other team right now (Startale maybe when they draw the right matchups which they haven't here)

I feel like the average result is 3-1 CJ with one upset, and in the other match MVP will wreck Prime, shame there's no betting against Prime anymore.

I think overall the matches are slightly favourable for SKT over Jinair this week so won't be firing either side there at current odds and while KT should beat Samsung, the price seems about right, although if significant steam comes on KT I may play Samsung if they get to +300 or better, or KT if they head down towards -170ish

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