morrow looked good today, showtime not particularly. Otherwise i would give showtime a big edge here. He lost some games against terran but those were all very good opponents.

Losing stim was the gg moment there, close game, Morrow prob would have taken it without losing stim, quite entertaining/close game

+139 seemed about right with what we saw, whatever was a tiny bet

Watching Bellator now so if someone could tell me how the Hydra rematch goes thatd be cool

gg thread.

anyone here who saw match 1 now knows that this was a COMPLETELY different hydra. easiest call ever here

Did put 3 units on Hydra -1,5 +115 this time.


2 very easy wins for Hydra

The funny thing is that Innovation is the one who potentially threw game 1 there and Super was the fav for that game specifically but not the others

Congratulations.

Can we stop arguing about which forum is better or whatever, we all don't want matches being fixed regardless of whether it's for entertainment or betting purposes

Sorry i am not really serious about it, just though it was a hilarious reply.

Unfortunately i dont see the whole thing moving in any direction, will most likely be ignored and forgotten in a week or two again. We never heard a word about it from Kespa and i doubt it will be different this time (or when it happens again)

Its also sad to see the TL mods mass banning people for saying the flat out obvious things, even though putting it "harshly". Their approach of "innocent till guilty, even with mass evidence" is semi-******ed.

Made a few more posts on TL

Didn't realise Nimbus had a 60% T winrate, but that alone only takes an even match to -150, so Dream would still have to be a more than -400 fav in a bo1 for the odds to be 'legitimate'

The other maps for San vs Dark and Innovation vs Super were balanced.

Also forgot that Super and Dream used to be teammates on MVP

Super made a point of saying pre interview his PvT was out of form but he was on a 7-3 run in the matchup according to the stat box. I wonder if that's out of character or he always talks down his chances in the pre-interview

I think we can safely add Super to the list of players not to bet on/against as well as Innovation and San. It's possible some/all of them may not be guilty but better safe than sorry. Probably best to stay away from Hydra too although I didn't track the late betting on that. I saw he went from -4xx to -7xx which was not unexpected. Did late money come in on him? Does anyone have the closing line/betting history for Hydra/Morrow?

Weren't the maps decided just before the match began? The line started to drop one hour before the match started.

I still dont see the Hydra's match being a throw.

As far as i can remember, the line on Hydra :

1. ML Opened near -400 , and during the next 10 days or so moved to -700 and even -800, and closed at about -700

2. -1.5 Opened -125, and maybe 2 days before the start of match moved to -200 -210, but closed above that, at -175 or something like that

He could be a master of the throw with the balls of steel, who can be up 1-0 and "throw" by doing an aggro roach build, almost killing the opponent (getting to the main and killing scvs).

But at this point i somehow doubt that the levels of the throw are so high and calculated.

I think he just tried a roach bust in g2 for whatever reason, was behind after a hold, and Morrow was decent enough to close it out eventually.

G3 was a somewhat of a build order loss, he went for a super safe opening to counter the aggro builds but Morrow went full greed and it snowballed from there.



Plus i think he was just a little too overhyped, he lost maps to Masa, Verdi, Strelok in the past. No reason to mark every upset as a throw.

But i could be wrong and he could be just that good of a matchfixer.

Yeah if he closed at -700 there's nothing suspicious there as the line movement was gradual. He was close to -700 24h out from memory

@emokid good point map was only decided just before gametime. Again I didn't watch the line move in real time so other people have more info than me

Iaguz +205 just 2:0'd Macsed. Hopefully Welmu will deliver too.

Ya watched it iaguz looked great. Hope he advances today

gl Welmu

hahaha HuK with a throw

Thought Welmu was dead for all money for a large part of that game. Nice recovery. Hopefully he can close it out

Solid lead for Welmu, should win from here.

edit: Easy for Finland.

Just took iaguz +228 against Welmu, think its a decent spot

Seems like it. Watching UFC event now so keep me up to date on anything interesting happening

"I am fav in this group" aka Huk is about to be 0-4'd

Edit: Yep. he is out. Sad how delusional he was about his own chances today.

Iaguz should've won map1, but went full foreigner with the decision making. Welmu is literally just won that game by doing nothing but sitting on 2 bases, getting an army, and attack clicking the terran base. Iaguz did the rest of the job to secure Welmu's win.

Holy **** iaguz threw 2 games in a row

well i agree that drop was ******ed in game 1. I think Welmu just had significantly better army control in the whole series. He sniped so many units with his blinks and great focus fire. Very well played even so his builds were very strange.