Hey everybody,

I am looking to get into sports betting for the upcoming football season. I have given myself a $1000 BR to get started.

I was wondering where the best places are to learn the ins and outs? I’ve casually bet using Ontario, Canada’s terrible proline system. From my time with that I’ve found that player prop lines are usually the best edge. Also what are the best websites for a Canadian to use to bet? I believe I want to focus on player props for NFL.

Thanks!

I would get yourself i good helmet just to be on the safe side.

You have the correct mindset for a noob in wanting to attack props vs the real markets. Go read everything at SBR by Ganchrow. Read Shipit’s well here and GL

Don’t make a ton of bets at 1pm, and it’s not necessary to risk your money at 4pm, if you don’t like the games just fade them, same goes for Sunday and Monday night games.

can you elaborate on this? by fade them do you mean don't bet on them, or something else?

Yes don’t bet them.

Yeah that's not what fading means.

heres some good advice... dont listen to this advice or anything that sounds even remotely like it. If you're AT ALL making bets for any other reason other than 'the line is X but should be Y and my edge is Z', youre not going to win. Wanting money on games youre watching or wanting to have action or whatever is like miles and miles away from succeeding at this.

Pretty much what I meant by don’t bet the board, but I like your explanation better.

but if you have edges across the board then bet the board, probably should be getting some parlays in there too

If you're a noob, you don't have edges across the board on NFL point spreads.

OP, you're thinking right, player props are by far the softest place to bet. In general, the higher the stakes, the lower the edge. You can probably destroy a home poker game with a $20 buy-in. You can't destroy the WSOP. Similarly, you can crush props with $50 limits in a way you can't crush sides with $50,000 limits. It's simply not worth the pros' time to pick up those nickels.

Only other thing I would add: pay attention to signup bonuses. At these stakes that can be more than half your return.

Props are certainly the way to go to start but dont go in thinking its an absolute field day, like it was 6 or 7 years ago. I think because of DFS people are just more aware of props in general and Ive noticed them getting a lot sharper in recent years, especially NFL. Still beatable by a healthy clip but it takes a lot more work than it used to.

Go to covers.com and fade the top consensus pick every day. I'm half joking, but seriously.

Haha, so true.

If you fade the top public NFL ats each week you'll likely come ahead a winner.

Thanks everyone! I just came back and found tons of replies haha.

I’m excited for week 1. I wish I knew other sports well but Football is sadly all I k is.

where do you get this info that's actually accurate?

I assume sportsinsights and vegasinsider aren't supplying accurate numbers.

My advice for nfl is wong teasers. Just google “Wong teasers”. Basically +ev if the odds are right and betting these really don’t require much thought. Back when I was betting the nfl consistently, I would focus mostly on just betting 2 team teasers crossing the 3 and 7.

I would figure out your bankroll for the year and figure out a set # of units you wanna play (example 100 units- 1000 dollars is 10 a unit) and bet maybe 1 unit a game. If you have a strong opinion maybe raise up # of units but this should keep you from busting a betting roll quick.

Like one of the other posters said, meh you shouldn’t just be looking for action if you wanna make money. Meh I feel it’s hard for majority of people to think in that manner so I would expect to lose and just bet what you can afford. Also don’t be mad to pass a game if you don’t have a strong opinion. Nfl lines are sharp and not easy to beat.

Thanks! It’s funny you’re example was 1000 roll with $10 units as that was what I had chose. I decided to cap myself to a max 3 units per bet. I gave myself the lofty goal of doubling my roll and having a 55 percent hit rate.

I honestly think I will be avoiding most spreads as very rarely do I see massive edges. Player props on the other hand feel suboptimal and can be bet more profitably.

We shall see how I do!

I would add this about Wong teasers: Unless you have strong opinion on game, I would probably wait a few weeks to play these, as it gives the books more data to dial in the lines which consequently makes those teasers even higher value.

It seems like there are a lot of good spots for spread/ML plays in both NFL & college until, say, mid-October... then it just gets tougher and tougher, as the books have a good handle on the lines, and randomness becomes a larger factor as injuries take their toll and teams are worn down from the grind of playing every week.

If you have a 1k bankroll you should do fractional kelly, not flat stakes/units.

No literally the opposite

So random Wong teasers have more value in the early part of season than later in the year?

Less efficient lines mean bigger edges which should mean bigger edges in teasers

Do you feel this is a wise direction for an amateur bettor?

Also I am really looking at betonline due to it allowing a wide array of options for player props. Im getting mixed results if this is a good book. What books would you guys recommend for a Canadian?