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08-22-2019 , 11:09 PM
They said it started at the 25 with no kick offs. I never paid enough attention to see if that was true. Maybe totals didn't have action, I had GB and it paid.
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08-22-2019 , 11:47 PM
The Review Journal just posted this.

Raiders-Packers bets stand despite playing field being shortened.
Several sportsbook directors said they had no specific rules posted for an adjusted length of the field, meaning all bets made before the announcement stood as wagered.
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08-24-2019 , 04:39 PM
Welp, lost a ton on Newbee LIVE vs Infamous, great game by Infamous.

However, we absolutely hammered OG +1.5 and ML vs LGD last night.

Was a little worried after they lost game 1, but LGD gave them alch + chen both game 2 and 3. GG!

That should be it for the tourney, lines in final will prob be too sharp, but will be rooting for OG to repeat.

BTW, ya'll might like this video of last years epic final, it's a pretty well done video that gives you an insight into the lives of these players:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv4CqIxqTMA
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08-24-2019 , 04:59 PM
so the new Hearthstone Grandmasters series has begun this weekend. it is 8 weeks long, runs Fri-Sun. i did okay not great betting it last season, don't really know for sure but felt nice and profitable. they changed the format and i believe the favorites are severely undervalued for the new format, called "Conquest". i am working on:

spreadsheet ranking players
database uploading past results

i lost my ass betting it this weekend but wasn't too into it, didn't even check out the decks before gambool it. i believe there is anywhere from small value to mega value in this.
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08-24-2019 , 05:02 PM
also, there is still time to bet today fr0zen @ -179 (up from -159 an hour ago) vs zalae. there is also a ridiculous amount of data available in this game from multiple websites.
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09-04-2019 , 05:19 PM
Nola -7 tonight ��
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09-04-2019 , 05:33 PM
Free money on over Verlander the other day, free on Nola o6.5 today.
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09-06-2019 , 11:59 PM
You can make an easy $250,000 tomorrow. Just bet $100 on NMST ML vs Alabama at 5D. lol
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09-07-2019 , 03:32 AM
anyone have any insight into why the KC JAX game is KC -3.5 and yet from what I've heard, the sharp money is on JAX

if it were a low scoring game I'd understand, but I just don't see how JAX keeps it within a TD scoring differential
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09-07-2019 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Yes, CG was total BS before Stadium, You try to bet and they look at the lines and like you say 80% of the time they reject and snap change the line, unless of course you were on the other side of a big move there, then the app would ask you if you want more! lol. Was total BS. And yes if they let a big bet go thru, it was probably best to double up on the other side. lol
Get into town yesterday and check out CG's new software. "Oh nice, $50k on full game NFL sides and $10k on CFB sides."

Make 1 (non-max) bet this morning on full game CFB side.

New limits after 1 (losing) bet:

full game NFL sides: $2000
full game NFL totals: $550

full game CFB sides: $1000
full game CFB totals: $200
2h CFB sides: $300
2h CFB totals: $200

lol this industry
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09-08-2019 , 06:19 AM
it's half time, Puerto Rico is 46, Italy is 26 Puerto Rico is has both 1.18 and -8.5 for the spread - I figured these odds are too good to be true, based on reputation and not reality of how far down they are, hammered them both with spread for value and money line for insurance

check back in a little while later and Italy is winning... fml...
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09-08-2019 , 10:14 AM
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You can make an easy $250,000 tomorrow. Just bet $100 on NMST ML vs Alabama at 5D. lol
seriously...naj what are you turning into 'floyd past post mayweather' lately?
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10-02-2019 , 12:35 AM
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Did Daliman seriously rework teasers as Daliman Teasers? I remember he posted some nonsense on a blackjack board a few years ago talking about how Fezzik was the real deal. This was like 2016 or so.

Relative to you guys I'm new to the sports betting world. I've only had sports betting as my primary income for about four years. I've been a full time gambler since 2008 or so, and before making most of my $ betting sports I made the majority of my money as a casino AP. As far as secrecy goes I'd say it's about on par with sports, with sports edging it out due to the donbest effect.

I'm glad I took the route that I did, though. I know of several incredibly lucrative sports betting opportunities that got wiped out (or corrected, if you'd rather) due to $500 geniuses whacking the pin (or more recently CRIS) opener before it could get copied across the market. This is very similar to casino AP, where if a popular game has a big flaw, you need to manage it carefully. If you whack a game like that in a dinky indian casino for 100k, the game will get pulled and there will be contracts broken and attorneys involved. It will be noticed. If you'd made the same score elsewhere, or piecemeal in various places, you could make millions over time. It's never an easy call, especially when there's money to be made here and now.

These days I probably am too paranoid, I bet in a way that does not touch the screen and I'm sure that costs me money. It was strange and uncomfortable to post even my dumb TBs props in this thread, but in the spirit of the open source syndicate I felt I would be remiss if I didn't. Now that TBs aren't posted on any local outs I've seen and CRIS gets walloped by $250 ballers immediately after posting, I'll have to find something else to bring to the table.

Maybe I'll start posting my esports plays, my ROI on those is pornographic. I can't get any money down on that anymore after PPH introduced and then ten days later removed their esports entirely. All the availability in that area is tied to pinnacle, so I can only get about $300 on exchanges, and since they're all either seeded or laid off onto pin, the effect is the same. Pin limits for the good stuff are around $100.

The one skill I feel very confident in, as far as betting sports goes, is screen reading. I know what every bookie software is labeled on screen, I know who copies who, I know who opens what and when, and I know what "off screen" books manage their lines and have bigger limits than the big boys. So if anyone has any questions in that department, I'll throw my hat in the ring there as an expert.

If the total K's market was totally untouched and you had a local book that simply copied the opener and never moved, you could make a living betting the side that's correlated to the K's prop you like along with the prop, and all you'd have to endure was an occasional slow pay and a slight variance bump. An insight into how I look at things, maybe.

Haven't logged in to 2+2 in quite a while, did a search of my name, and saw this. Will clear some things up.

- I never reworked Wong/Basic Strategy teasers as "Daliman Teasers". I was quite clear in what I was doing, why I was doing it, and where I learned from, and gave credit where it was due multiple times. For ~20 NFL weeks I posted teasers I was betting, adhering mostly to basic strategy except I added a few tweaks, (Would tease up from +3 if it was -120 or higher at times, etc) and I ran hotter than the sun, ultimately not getting paid on a large chunk after going 31-0-5 my last week of posting them. Many people followed my picks and made a lot of $, and I got undue credit for that. While I didn't form or have intense knowledge of the numbers, I was quite familiar with them.

_ As far as Fezzik, he is a friend. I learned a TON about sports betting from Fezzik. He is EXTREMELY knowledgeable about sports betting. He wins a lot of $ betting sports. But most of his edge is in betting rogue/bad lines, not handicapping. He can handicap the NFL quite well, but every other sport he can't, (MAYBE WNBA a bit). Which would all be fine if he weren't a tout who sells picks. But he is, and while I see degrees in the differences between touts, ultimately, if they lose and charge still, they suck, period. I have told him how I feel about him still selling picks, I will no longer defend him as a tout, and was likely wrong to do so in the past.
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10-02-2019 , 04:04 AM
and i thought the thread was back on track
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10-02-2019 , 09:46 AM
how often were you coming by here and searching your name....
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10-03-2019 , 05:40 AM
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how often were you coming by here and searching your name....
I only log in a few times a year anymore, and only logged in because of the Mike Postle Stones cheating stuff.. Maybe half that time I search my name
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10-03-2019 , 06:12 AM
he's like candyman, just type daliman three times in a dead thread and he'll make an appearance after getting his google alert
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10-03-2019 , 11:22 AM
DALIMAN DALIMAN DALIMAN
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10-07-2019 , 08:53 PM
Rough September with RSIF, but still a decent overall year. +$36,143.09 on $723,081 wagered 4.99% ROI. 255-258, 49.71% win rate. 370 YES, 143 NO.

Expected win: $40,153.40. Still ~30 games left, but looks like we gonna end up under. Dropping ~35k in 3 weeks wasn't good. Still The CHART (TM) provides.

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10-07-2019 , 08:58 PM
Awesome September and year for HRE (outside of June). This was surprising consider all the home runs, etc.



378-337-18 (52.87% win)
+$59,592.55 on $1,023,927 wagered (5.82% ROI). Expected win: $58,918.51
151 over, 582 under.

Overall charts looking at ~100k combined before the season is over.

Across both of them, lot of long break even stretches.
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10-08-2019 , 04:59 AM
nice charts, does this mean you're back?
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10-08-2019 , 07:03 PM
Siggy I bet Ovi u4.5 SOG -165 tn do you have that as value
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10-09-2019 , 10:38 AM
good example of why W-L and "winning percentage" stats are utterly meaningless ^^

Money won is all that matters
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10-09-2019 , 11:14 AM
Also how long term of a process it is.

With HRE the profit at around June 1 was the same as around Sept 1. Three months of nothing except a horrible June followed by a good July. Then breakeven August.

RSIF had 2 separate 35k negative swings (May and Sept).

Always gotta zoom out with regards to betting. Zooming in you can focus on i'm running like God and then overbet or blow your money on useless things because you think it's always going to be like this vs i'm losing tons and gonna chase losses.
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10-09-2019 , 02:05 PM
very true and probably my biggest leak. It really is crazy how long the long run really is
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