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06-13-2019 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
5-0 on Yes/No Points
0-1 on Yes/No Goal
2-2-1 on SOG
0-1 on Goalie

It was only five games, but not too happy with SOG model. We did crush the market but who knows how efficient it is. Overall 13.01% ROI, but negative 3.32% on SOG

Really did good on Yes/No Points in terms of winning and crushing market and there are more outs (was able to bet oreilly and perron at 5 different places vs only one for SOG leading to a nice 52.59% ROI overall). I might focus on that instead next season.

Any NHL experts know what the common props are offered during the season? Is Goalie o/u saves basically every game? Yes/No points every game?

Goalie saves I used to see very rarely. The biggest one by far is player vs player matchups with points. NHL SOG is probably my best bet overall but its so hard to find anywhere that posts them online.
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06-13-2019 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Like
Goalie saves I used to see very rarely. The biggest one by far is player vs player matchups with points. NHL SOG is probably my best bet overall but its so hard to find anywhere that posts them online.
I also saw frequently "Team to score 1st wins game YES/NO" and "3 straight goals by either team YES/NO"

And "Goal in 1st 10min" is always popular. Probably pretty efficient though.
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06-13-2019 , 02:24 PM
couple more NBA from BM

Steph Curry more assists than Kyle Lowry +145 (I have fair as +114, 46.68%)

they also have Leonard more Rebounds than Green. I have fair as +110 and line is currently +109, so might want to watch that one

Draymond u8.5 +105 assists looks good too
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06-13-2019 , 02:46 PM
couple other non rebound or assist bets win% in ()'s

Siakam o1.5 blocks+steals +135 (50.67%)
Gasol o1.5 turnovers +150 (53.71%)
Curry o1.5 blocks+steals +115 (56.62%)
Thompson u1.5 turnovers -115 (59.18%)
Thompson o1.5 blocks+steals +110 (59.39%)
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06-13-2019 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
couple more NBA from BM

Steph Curry more assists than Kyle Lowry +145 (I have fair as +114, 46.68%)

they also have Leonard more Rebounds than Green.
Is there a way to see these lines on BM without an account?
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06-13-2019 , 03:26 PM
Rsig, that you headed into Westgate around noon? I thought I saw the hat you described last week. I was on my way out.
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06-13-2019 , 03:37 PM
don't think so, was planning on going there later today to play some poker though. The games on Thursday are fun

I think you need to be logged in to see BM Props

I was bored so I was checking out graphs, is HRE due for a correction soon?



this was only 54.52% winners with 9.37% ROI too. Imagine if we could pick at 60%?
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06-13-2019 , 08:19 PM
Cousins u2.5 turnovers -105 (64.96%)
Leonard u9 FT's +100 (55.08%)
Draymond Green u3.5 FT's -115 (70.37%)
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06-13-2019 , 11:41 PM
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Untrue. I've been to TT 30+ times and never start at his table since I always join late (unless there's only one table) and he always moves around to mine eventually. I've swapped seats with him several times too.

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06-13-2019 , 11:47 PM
i'm at westgate a lot and its really the only time there's a poker game there. good to kill time waiting for 2nd halfs or race tracks to start up. I don't really know him, but he seems like a nice guy. Also the game is fun. I'm a super rec poker player and people talk and have a good time there vs. other places where it's silent and people are watchign ipads. I do'nt mind dropping a couple hundred there.

got killed on NBA Props today even though we went undefeated in blocks+steals
-20.84%

pretty cursed last couple of days in MLB K so good thing we haven't been on it

Got 4 big bets canceled because games were suspended or ended in the 9th even though the pitchers were not in the game. Apparently they changed the grading where in the past if the pitcher was out of the game then they'd grade it anyway

And then Greinke gets pulled because of a delay and usually they cancel because of that, but didn't cancel here.

Is it because I stopped the community aspect of K's? Is this how we are being punished?

Overall good NBA Playoffs tho. ~11% ROI but not the 33% we ran for the first three games. Decent NHL. See you next playoffs.
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06-14-2019 , 04:14 AM
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Got 4 big bets canceled because games were suspended or ended in the 9th even though the pitchers were not in the game. Apparently they changed the grading where in the past if the pitcher was out of the game then they'd grade it anyway
Atleast BM paid out on Flaherty.

NBA got killed on rebounds

ohwell time to get it back on Ks. Took a couple early lines.

Matz over 5.5 -107
Heaney over 6.5 -110
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06-14-2019 , 12:13 PM
Bellator:

Sonnen +315
Dantas +135


MLB

Phillies (1st5) +121
Rays (1st5) -160
Reds (1st5) -130
Tigers +132
Angels +165
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06-14-2019 , 01:01 PM
Disconcerting that you're doing bad at Ks sigs. I've been doing well albeit lower volume than what you seem to get. I still am not happy with how I project how long starters stick around but as long as it wins who cares.
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06-14-2019 , 01:08 PM
not doing bad in terms of losing money

but bad in terms of i should have been winning buckets but only winning whatever is smaller than a bucket because weather doesn't like us

if this keeps up my ROI on K's might drop below 10% and then how can i justify refreshing bookmaker every 10 seconds for an hour every morning

dangerously low at 11.66% now
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06-14-2019 , 01:13 PM
Oh right all those cancels. Seems like the book rules are real important, if a game has weather and the bet stands if it goes full (or regardless) you have a little bit of a freeroll going for you. Sort of like the book that had the stipulation they must go 4 innings (RIP those overs)
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06-14-2019 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fubster
Disconcerting that you're doing bad at Ks sigs. I've been doing well albeit lower volume than what you seem to get. I still am not happy with how I project how long starters stick around but as long as it wins who cares.
Batters faced by the SP is the one aspect I like the least about my lil K model. I basically just guess based off median/avg and the other teams OPS. I cant really think of a better way.
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06-14-2019 , 01:29 PM
I messed up and BM has nice rules and it's great, but I tried to branch out by betting at too many books to get more volume since BM was getting too efficient and I was only getting 1-2 bets down before the value was gone.

Some of these new books are lawless and change their rules to suit them. Reminds me why I didn't bother with PPH books or props in the past.

I'm in too deep on props now though. ML betting is boring

Wait for openers, bet

Wake up, bet some more

Lineups released, bet

It's too easy and boring.

But 8am bookmaker hitting refresh my blood is going. Can I get Snell u7.5 -115 before anyone else?

Oh no I max bet Scherzer u8.5 +120 why did it go up to +130, am I wrong? Then watch it rocket down to -117

What is Giolito going to open at today?

Don't really get that ride with money lines, even at open.

It's really only K's (HRR had it too but RIP). NBA/NHL props didn't have this rush. HRE is pretty boring. Oh total is 8.5, bet the under is a play because no one knows how to price HRE with that total for some reason. RSIF, oh a nationally televised game moved a lot to the under before first pitch, guess i'll take the over.
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06-14-2019 , 02:46 PM
PPH books actually have pretty common sense rules by and large. Since they generally don't take the action internally, they don't have a strong incentive to make rules that screw players, or make decisions based on a result for them. Of course they have their own litany of obvious other problems, but bad rulings isn't one I run into that much.
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06-14-2019 , 03:11 PM
My main pph is constantly misgrading props and it's never in my favor. Not convinced it's just runbad. First 5 min of every phone call theyll act like I'm angling them before they finally fix it
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06-14-2019 , 03:27 PM
What software is that? Could be one where the agent has a ton of control. Believe it or not, CRIS/BM was the one most constantly misgrading props. Usually just had to wait around, sometimes had to contact support, never had any issues though.
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06-14-2019 , 04:23 PM
Placed 06/13/2019 @ 11:56 PM

Risk: $10,000.00 - Win: $12,200.00

Round 2 Matchup - US Open - Byeong Hun An +122 - (Byeong Hun An vrs Branden Grace)

Game Start 06/14/2019 @ 09:50 A

Grace +0 after 18
An -1 after 17

Only way we lose is double bogey or worse

double bogeys 18

i hope posting these K's will reverse all this negative karma

https://pastebin.com/HBprfsxX
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06-14-2019 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nedprz
My main pph is constantly misgrading props and it's never in my favor. Not convinced it's just runbad. First 5 min of every phone call theyll act like I'm angling them before they finally fix it
I can top that. I had an agent just manually deleting half my winning props. I went on after killing it and had negative balance was like wtf? Go to see history and theres like 6 winners missing. Scumbag tried to claim it never happened, luckily I took screenshots of my bets. When I called the site they confirmed the agent had deleted the bets with those ticket #s.

Yet another reason to not deal with these headache pph locals, unless you got one you really know you can trust.
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06-14-2019 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
Placed 06/13/2019 @ 11:56 PM

Risk: $10,000.00 - Win: $12,200.00

Round 2 Matchup - US Open - Byeong Hun An +122 - (Byeong Hun An vrs Branden Grace)

Game Start 06/14/2019 @ 09:50 A

Grace +0 after 18
An -1 after 17

Only way we lose is double bogey or worse

double bogeys 18

i hope posting these K's will reverse all this negative karma

https://pastebin.com/HBprfsxX
I'm higher on Scherzer and for reasons I can't figure out Heaney is to the moon. A bit higher Mahle and Cole, Way higher on Quantrill, lower on Gonzales, about the same on the rest. I'm trying to retool how I project starter times through order, making this post so I have something to go back and compare to.

Last edited by Fubster; 06-14-2019 at 06:33 PM.
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06-14-2019 , 06:21 PM
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I can top that. I had an agent just manually deleting half my winning props. I went on after killing it and had negative balance was like wtf? Go to see history and theres like 6 winners missing. Scumbag tried to claim it never happened, luckily I took screenshots of my bets. When I called the site they confirmed the agent had deleted the bets with those ticket #s.

Yet another reason to not deal with these headache pph locals, unless you got one you really know you can trust.
I'm currently being possibly stiffed for about 8k so I feel your pain.
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06-14-2019 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Fubster
What software is that? Could be one where the agent has a ton of control. Believe it or not, CRIS/BM was the one most constantly misgrading props. Usually just had to wait around, sometimes had to contact support, never had any issues though.
A ¢ e 2 3 . I don't do enough poking around to know exactly where they source everything

If you aren't getting stiffed you aren't winning enough lolz
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