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01-04-2020 , 02:42 PM
I know nothing about NASCAR. I assume it's basically just horse racing with different terminology (driver vs jockey for example). I'm interested if it results in more arguments about whether or not someone ran out of gas in the final lap
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01-04-2020 , 02:44 PM
Midday Games

WPG Neal Pionk Assists u0.5 -136
WPG Neal Pionk Points u0.5 -121
STL David Perron Assists u0.5 -155

MIN Matt Dumba o2.5 +140
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01-04-2020 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TomG
I know nothing about NASCAR. I assume it's basically just horse racing with different terminology (driver vs jockey for example). I'm interested if it results in more arguments about whether or not someone ran out of gas in the final lap
The best was when Jamie McMurrays engine exploded a quarter of a mile from the finish line costing me a lot of money.

I think it's interesting because there's a lot of qualitative factors that come into play, different tracks, different rules (and now that they stopped restrictor plates should we throw out all that data?), etc.

I'll work on getting the data together this week. Then it will take a couple weeks to make a database, etc. so we can visually look at things easily.
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01-04-2020 , 02:59 PM
Found the old thread. We can start right off there

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4.../#post32239253
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01-04-2020 , 03:01 PM
That's where I found out joking about manipulating the market by having everyone bet the other side isn't joking when everyone is going broke.

but still appreciate that people thought you could only run that bad if you're manipulating markets to bet on the other side
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01-04-2020 , 03:31 PM
Faceoffs
Vancouver -115 over New York Rangers
New Jersey Devils -115 over Colorado Avalanche
Montreal Canadiens -115 over Pittsburgh Penguins

GAPs
NYI Josh Bailey Assists o0.5 +200
TOR Morgan Rielly Assists o0.5 +145
TOR William Nylander Points u0.5 +130
PIT Evgeni Malkin Assists u0.5 +143
PIT Alex Galchenyuk Points u0.5 -153
PHI Travis Konecny Points u0.5 +111
ARI Phil Kessel Assists o0.5 +177
NSH Roman Josi Points u0.5 +155

SOGs
MTL Tomas Tatar u2.5 -139
MTL Max Domi u2.5 -126
VAN J.T. Miller o2.5 +108
NSH Matt Duchene u1.5 +146
NSH Calle Jarnkrok u1.5 +147
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01-04-2020 , 03:49 PM
Damn looking back at that thread I was very confrontational and high strung in my mid 20s. How were we beating closing lines by 50-60 cents and getting crushed every week? Either we had epic run bad or the market was insanely inefficient.

RIP kaboshedx
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01-04-2020 , 04:18 PM
reading through old threads is so weird
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01-04-2020 , 04:48 PM
Wow I really enjoyed the idiot who thought running out of gas meant having gas left in the tank. Good stuff.

NFL props seem to be very tight not much value.

Any NBA today?
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01-04-2020 , 05:45 PM
nba
https://pastebin.com/tT1FG1ND

anyone else do the playoff long 500k?

here's what i went with. lets get this 500k

Spoiler:
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01-04-2020 , 06:47 PM
Didn't enter the playoff $500K - gl. Do they reveal ownership %? I'd prefer Kelce/Hopkins to Hill/Fells with extra .5ppr for TE but guessing your combo has far lower ownership and it's a very top-heavy structure.
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01-04-2020 , 07:08 PM
omg this game is hilarious, thank god I'm all over Bills teasers and h2 over 20.5.

edit: Rigged
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01-04-2020 , 07:18 PM
yea i was thinking triple TE but then thought that might be a popular strat

and then i wondered if everyones fading lamar because they think it gives them leverage is it smart to play lamar? too much meta
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01-04-2020 , 07:29 PM
Did you ignore Marcus Smart #s big dif between you and market.
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01-04-2020 , 08:22 PM
nope kemba walker is out and he's dominated with him out.

maybe only bad thing is he's in a back 2 back but not like he can rest
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01-04-2020 , 10:05 PM
Hey Sigs, are the expected receptions for each team's players supposed to add up to the QB's completions total (approximately at least, due to distribution characteristics)? I see the QBs in your sheet as higher than the sum of the WR/RB/TE totals, although that could be due to some factor I'm not accounting for, for both Tannehill and Brady markets.
Tannehill I see market ~18.5
Brady ~23 to 23.5

Last edited by iloveny161; 01-04-2020 at 10:14 PM.
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01-04-2020 , 11:04 PM
ah forgot about the fringe players that get 0.5 catches a game, nvm.
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01-04-2020 , 11:23 PM
Jesper Fast who has taken 14 FOs all year and is 3-11 in them randomly shows up in the opening FO and beats J.T. Miller. I was researching this bet some more and found this article warning us and so did Poogs.

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Originally Posted by https://www.gtbets.eu/hockey/nhl-pro-bet.htm
Another aspect to consider here is to avoid making bets that are impossible to beat in the long run. Here's a quick example of what we mean by this:

Which Team will win the First Faceoff of the Stanley Cup Finals
New York Rangers -110
Boston Bruins -110

As you can see, there's actually a house edge in this bet. Wagering on either the Rangers or Bruins requires you to front $100 to win a $110 profit. Since this wager is more against the house, rather than other bettors, you're going to lose money in the long-run. Plus game-starting faceoffs are such a minuscule part of hockey, and it's hard to do enough quality research to overcome the house edge.
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01-04-2020 , 11:29 PM
marcus smart is the worst apparently

they should. i had some issues with brady earlier in the week where it was projecting more pass completes for him than receptions.

2 of them were going to fullbacks which usually don't make the pastebin and tight ends which weren't there either. i filter the pastebin export to show people with a certain amount of min receptions since you won't see lines on people who are expected to get 1-2 receptions.

on my end i usually filter those guys out too so that is where the discrepancy was.
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01-04-2020 , 11:35 PM
How can you expect world-class athletes to play well two nights in a row in a game they've excelled at their whole life, sigs? How??
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01-04-2020 , 11:40 PM
are tip offs in NBA easier to beat? The dude from Uncut Gems was crushing them
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01-04-2020 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DefNotRsigley
marcus smart is the worst apparently

they should. i had some issues with brady earlier in the week where it was projecting more pass completes for him than receptions.

2 of them were going to fullbacks which usually don't make the pastebin and tight ends which weren't there either. i filter the pastebin export to show people with a certain amount of min receptions since you won't see lines on people who are expected to get 1-2 receptions.

on my end i usually filter those guys out too so that is where the discrepancy was.
smart still emotional from last night when he thought trae pushed him. smh

thanks for the explanation, makes sense!
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01-05-2020 , 12:02 AM
it might work out

i have 3 pats receivers under and brady over 22.5 complete
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01-05-2020 , 12:07 AM
same here. such mixed emotions on that drop by jules
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01-05-2020 , 12:27 AM
nice i was tied for 1st with 2 people in the showdown in multiple tournaments and that titans D went from +185k to -600

and no brady over. and marcus smart. worst emotional day
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