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Old 07-11-2013, 04:41 AM   #101
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Re: Buying Picks and Tout Discussion Thread (Should I Purchase Tips Discussed)

Jeb here is a free +ev bet for you....fade mayweather in the next match. You should be able to get odds in the range of +200 to 250...maybe higher depending on the book.

Should be similar to silva/weedman fight...yes, i know this is boxing.

the match is sometime in september.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:54 PM   #102
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Thanks PS, will keep that in mind, you got a good pick for today?

Think the problem with touts is that they charge too much, I looked around and you have to bet pretty big to cover the cost of it. For some reason I thought you should get something like $1 per winning bet, maybe $2 but that depends on how many picks you are giving out.

Let's say each unit is $100 with average of 5% vig or $110/$100. A good handicapper will be around 55%, so you get back an average of around $4 per game. Even if you split the profits, which is definitely a great deal for the tout, that's $2/game. I really don't think anyone should charge more than that. If you are putting more money on the games than $100, you probably don't use the tout exclusively. If you bet less you can't afford a tout. So any where between $1 and $2/ game is pretty fair. Obviously the tout can't afford to just tout unless he has a ton of customers. He really should just be using the extra to supplement his roll and not be his main source, otherwise he probably will cease to be a good handicapper.

If you are really really good at it and only put out a few bets/week, then maybe a little more, but the money you pay should be related to the number of picks and win% and it's not that hard to figure out how much it's worth.

It's kind of a big ego, greed thing too, you start making money, you think you are invincible and you get sloppy, so I imagine it's hard to stay good at touting.

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:04 PM   #103
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saw it too late, all my bets have already started...i posted them in the best bet thread. looks like i will either go 2-2 or 3-1 if kc can come from behind.

tonight i like arizona but not sure if i will play...not a fan of laying favorites. But the line move from -150 to -125 in some books are tempting me. Aoki and Braun are expected to play, this the line move but that doesn't change the way i feel about arizona's chances tonight.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:17 PM   #104
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seems like a very straightforward line to me, I'm getting -140 on that which I also had as the true line, so I don't see much value in it. The over at a + is tempting me, that ballpark gives up a lot of runs and Braun is back.

Do you really think FM will only be a short fave vs his next opponent? Why do you like fading him?
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:13 PM   #105
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can we keep this garbage to one thread?
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:15 PM   #106
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seems like a very straightforward line to me, I'm getting -140 on that which I also had as the true line, so I don't see much value in it. The over at a + is tempting me, that ballpark gives up a lot of runs and Braun is back.

Do you really think FM will only be a short fave vs his next opponent? Why do you like fading him?
I hate playing the total of 9 in baseball. When I do play its only when i feel really strong about it, I usually sell half point to make it 8.5 when i play under and 9.5 when i play the over, yes you read that right. Not playing anything tonight, laying the night off.

Floyd Mayweather is -270 and his opponent is +230 currently at 5dimes. Totals rounds set at 11.5 with over being -320 and Under +260.

Breaking down this match up will be same as breaking down the fight between silva and wiedman.

Aged, experienced, accomplished fighter vs a young and hungry upcoming fighter. Alvarez is fast and powerful with a variety of punches. It will still be hard to break down FM's defense and land a ko punch but if fm makes a mistake alvarez has the power to land a ko punch. I think there is value in win by ko too but for now i only have money riding on the moneyline. Keep in mind that alvarez has a huge size advantage...his fight day weight will be around 175 almost close to the next level.

Anything over +200 on alvarez is value in my opinion. I booked it at +250.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:21 PM   #107
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Anything over +200 on alvarez is value in my opinion. I booked it at +250.
It's right around +220 on most books. My book doesn't have it up yet but when it comes up I'll play it and put $5 on it for you
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:08 PM   #108
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It's right around +220 on most books. My book doesn't have it up yet but when it comes up I'll play it and put $5 on it for you
I hope you took astros at nearly +300 odds that i posted in the picks thread for this week. I won't take credit for the pick but feels damn good to win odds like that!
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:21 PM   #109
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How to get known as a tout

How could I prove/post my results as a sports bettor? I have a winning record in MLB games over a decent sample size. I'd like to know how I could publicize my data in a way that others would know it is legit and not just what I claimed it to be.

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Old 07-22-2013, 06:41 PM   #110
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Re: How to get known as a tout

Contact sharky or TheBrianL. They can help you out.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:45 PM   #111
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Re: How to get known as a tout

start posting ten picks/week in the best bet thread.

and stop saying how you want to be a tout.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:55 PM   #112
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Re: How to get known as a tout

Also post in the MLB picks thread.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:56 PM   #113
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and stop saying how you want to be a tout.
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:19 PM   #114
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Old 07-22-2013, 07:54 PM   #115
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Contact JEB.
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Old 07-22-2013, 08:15 PM   #116
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Re: How to get known as a tout

in the kitchen, cooking, and we're feeling prepared. the pot and pan are in position, the chicken and onion and pepper and garlic and noodles are waiting, let's do this.

first the chicken must be trimmed and cubed so that it can be put in the pan first because it needs more time to cook than the vegetables or noodles. this is a particularly delightful part of the process because the trimmings go to the cat. he loves chicken. a wooden cutting board is laid out and the steel knife cuts through the cellophane package and a hand slips in, grabs the slimy cool wet breast, lays it flat on the board. the trimmings are not in the expected order, this wasn't in the script. knifing the chicken takes longer than expected, it's an unpleasant process full of inconsistent and seemingly random rewards for the cat who looks up at us with wonder and amazement, doesn't understand, could never understand, but he doesn't mind as long as the chicken keeps coming.

finally it is done. olive oil in the pan, more olive oil, turn it up to 7 and slide the chicken off the board into the pan. shower the chicken with a bit of garlic powder, then garlic & herb seasoning, use the wooden spatula with circular holes to mix it around then let it simmer.

next, the pepper. really next should have been the onions but no it's better this way. cut off the top, pull out the nucleus, throw a few of the seeds in with the chicken because why not? and then cut out the inner scaffolding, cut tall slim pieces and then cut those in half, pushing the ever-growing pile into the corner before finally putting the entirety into a bowl to the side. the cat still stares longingly, wondering when will it be his turn? but we tell him he would never appreciate this, he is a carnivore. he does not understand.

now the onion. pulling off the skin is the worst part because there's never a right answer, difficult decisions inevitably need to be made about which level will be the last to go. once the dirty work is done, the tops are cut off and thrown aside, cut the bulb in half vertically, then cut moon shaped slices in an arc from the center. it's done quickly and sloppily, a mistake here will not be costly.

the onions are slid into the pan along with the chicken, the heat is turned up, it was too low before, it isn't far enough along. the onions are going to be softer than we had initially hoped but it's too late now, there's no turning back. oh ****, the garlic.

the garlic cloves are ripped off, another of the least pleasant jobs, no matter how hard we try, remnants of the thin soft crunchy outer skin always ends up scattered here and there on tables and in sinks and on floors, a mess to clean up later, the dishes will be sorted but we're on the hook for "general kitchen cleaning," so we try our best to not spray too many garlic shavings as we gather the necessary cloves.

the skin removal comes mercifully to an end and then the joy of quickly chopping the cloves is ours, thin flat slices are lined up and cut a few more times and then they fly in and oh **** time to mix the chicken and onion and what did we turn it to 9? it's moved up to 10 and we make a mental note to stir more frequently as the noodles are thrown in the pot which was turned up to 11 not long enough ago and we're thinking, this better heat fast.

we take a moment, breathe, stir a bit more, take in the sweet scent of onion and chicken and garlic and herb, arrange water for the table, take out plates, stir the noodles which are softening quickly, nicely, stir more, we're excited, almost finished and everything is looking okay, onions are browning a bit which wasn't initially intended but is actually a nice effect and will go well with the rest of the meal, stir some more, the loud hissing of food on pan tells us to turn it down, we move it to 6, the noodles are soft now and we're pushing them down but they've absorbed all the water they need and the hissing is still too loud so we move it down to 3 and there's still extra water in the pot so we take out the strainer cause **** it we're not doing the dishes, and then more seasoning is added and the pan is moved down to 2 and then, immediately, turned off to 0, and the noodles and vegetables and chicken are scooped onto the plate and we sit and it's good, really delicious, we're shoveling the food in not even bothering to be polite, huge heaping swallows to make room for more food.

eventually things calm down and we glance across the square, through a window, a french girl removes her shirt, no bra underneath, then her knickers and though it's impolite to watch, we think of her stupid french friends singing ****ty french pop the past two nights, we enjoy her body not as an object of desire but as an object of revenge, just as she goes to throw a shirt over her head, she looks up, sees us, gives a look of disappointment but neither anger nor disapproval, she understands we are in the right and she has been bested fair and square. perhaps she will choose her friends more wisely next time. but then, perhaps not. coyly she drags the curtain closed. all is quiet.

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Old 07-22-2013, 08:47 PM   #117
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Contact JEB.
I think we lost JEB.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:36 PM   #118
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I think we lost JEB.
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:47 PM   #119
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yeah, FREE JEB.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:01 PM   #120
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This forum was much funner when sharky and jdwarriors had their threads going.
brianl saga was more like a trainwreck
I don't really understand why people can't create their own threads anymore, who cares if its with intention of going tout bla bla
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:14 PM   #121
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pretty sure they *can*.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:32 PM   #122
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better to have a strict policy and let one or two here and there slip through than to have a free for all. Itll kill the forum pretty quickly.
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Old 07-22-2013, 11:33 PM   #123
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and no neither jeb or this clown should get one
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:37 AM   #124
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and stop saying how you want to be a tout.
this might help lol. tout is term that is highly frowned upon.
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:53 AM   #125
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