^ this for sure.

I follow Massey Peabody for NFL too.

This is obvious spam.

Spam? He ask "anyways, would love to hear where you guys get some of your picks from".

So I helped him out...

Real fresher can easily ask for a help, don't you think?

Hello.
Can anyone tip me of the best service plays out there?
I need a site where i can subscribe and get tips for a month.
I dont need some cheap tipster. Looking for the best of the best.
Thanks everyone.

Must be Soccer.

ace-ace

Dr. Bob

Brandon Lang

JJ Gold

Sharkysports

hand or mouth. sometimes a little of both.

Gtfo fish

nimadamus

I've been following BWCPicks on Twitter for 2 or 3 years now; he does a pretty good job. Has been a fairly consistent winner over the long-term in the years I've followed him. Has very good transparency where he provides his picks, the sportsbook/odds where he made the pick and even the reasoning behind making each pick. Has all bets going back a few years tracked on tables available on his website. Would say his service is pretty good value...

Except when call him out for his bought followers then he blocks you


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Really? Just ran his Twitter account through one of those apps that detects fake Twitter followers and didn't notice anything unusual. Maybe you are thinking of BTB (@behindthebets) who definitely has a crapload of bought followers. Either way I'd have to judge BWC primarily by his actual results and those have been fairly good/consistent long-term...

This is serious business question. Let's assume the following hypothetical.

1. You are good at handicapping.
2. You are disciplined at money management.
3. You consistently double your bankroll every month.

You have the ability to wager online/offline, but would like to supplement your earnings by providing advice to clients.

How much should you charge for your services?

Assuming that your recommendations will impact the market and move lines, how many customers/clients should you limit your service to?

On the flip side, how much does the average person wager per bet? What type of customers are best suited for a service like this? Remember that they are paying juice plus the cost of the service.

Any business and marketing advice would be welcome.

0.

You'd be the world's biggest fool to charge.

I hate to agree with Mikhel but

If this is true

3. You consistently double your bankroll every month.

Why on earth would you consider sharing your picks if it could impact the market no matter how much people would pay for it

For a serious answer i'd assume contact some tout website. You might see why everyone here is skeptical though given it's not like you're using a common model, if you're actually an expert handicapper who crushes consistently why would you share your info, surely if you need additional capital to maximise your return you could just get investors if need be

One reason is to diversify your income stream. As you may know, the laws and regulations can change in a given country. This would be a hedge against that. Regarding "sharing picks", there wouldn't be writeups involved, so it would be the equivalent of tailing someone.

I agree, you should be skeptical as most people lose money at sports betting. But there are those who have worked in the trenches for years to get better at this craft.

What a waste of time this is.

Double your bankroll every month?
Start with 10k -> 10 months you have 10m, retire.

It's a hypothetical question. So double or whatever monthly return, as long as it's a positive return. In hindsight, I shouldn't have thrown out such a specific number. I just meant to get the conversation rolling.

Wow, seems like there are some jaded folks in here. Guys, I wish you all the luck in the world. If there is anyone who wants to discuss privately, PM me. I'm gonna take this conversation offline.

Thanks again for your input.

This only works if your advice is worthless.

Sounds like OP is trying to troll for pricing information after two months running like the sun

Just look at how much tout businesses charge and their marketing (I'm assuming an unusual situation makes sharing your picks correct)

Based on OP's name and about 60 seconds on Google, I think he probably already has the beginnings of his own tout website...

Absolutely, but the reality is that it doesn't make sense for a winning handicapper to sell picks in the long run. Let's say a handicapper is consistently finding events that win 50% of the time, but pay out at +110 giving him a 5% ROI.

Now let $X be the amount of the money needed to move a market from +110 to +100. In the NFL, X might be $500,000. In golf matchups, it might be $5,000. Some prop bets might only be $500.

So if it's a golf matchup, he can bet $5,000 himself and make $250 in EV. Or he can e-mail his pick out to his subscribers.

If he has 250 subscribers that pay $1 per pick, he's done great, he gets his EV without taking any risk. Now the first few people to read the e-mail go bet it and the line starts moving. How much did that group get down at good prices? How many of the people logged in and saw +100 instead of +110. They either bet it anyway and take the worst of it, or they paid $1 for a pick they didn't get to use. So all the subscribers start quitting, and now he's down to 1 subscriber. How much can he possibly charge the 1 subscriber for the pick? He could charge $250, but that leaves no profit for the subscriber so he would quit as well.

So given that markets tend to move as money comes in on one side, what's a scenario where a handicapper with a 5% edge is selling his picks and subscribers are paying for them and everyone is better off such that it can last for a long time?

At that price you can't afford not to get it. It's like the pressure cooker on Prime Day.