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03-08-2014 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LedOut
I could see how some would be interested. but I lived it for 8 months and it was ****ing disgusting

one of the top cons actually started his day off by yelling out "alright boys, lets ruin some ****ing lives"

you may think youre a top con. try taking a guy who you've taken 2-12 and have him shoot you a card for 15k. until you can do that. youre no top con.
Can you explain the term "top con" and what hours did you work?
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03-08-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LedOut
I could see how some would be interested. but I lived it for 8 months and it was ****ing disgusting

one of the top cons actually started his day off by yelling out "alright boys, lets ruin some ****ing lives"

you may think youre a top con. try taking a guy who you've taken 2-12 and have him shoot you a card for 15k. until you can do that. youre no top con.
****, maybe you're the one that needs to do a blog or ask me thread. or have you already?
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03-08-2014 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by skyDragon
1. I have been very clear about being totally green about handicapping. I'm going to learn.

2. Maybe I am a sociopath. Capitalism.

3. Thanks for feedback.
your job is not to handicap. your job is to get your foot in the door with a mark. and take him for ****ing everything. that simple. your job is to take IT ALL.

in a perfect world every client should wind up jumping off a bridge. because he is a hopeless degen believer. who lost everything, house, car, wife and all money. all because youre a top con who only cares about GETTING HIS.

Sounds like fun, right?

reevaluate things guy.

and LOL at services putting any effort into picking winners. this is how it goes. "Hey Carmine, who you like tonight?"
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03-08-2014 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
****, maybe you're the one that needs to do a blog or ask me thread. or have you already?
I agree.... I would love to read about your experience.
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03-08-2014 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LedOut
your job is not to handicap. your job is to get your foot in the door with a mark. and take him for ****ing everything. that simple. your job is to take IT ALL.

in a perfect world every client should wind up jumping off a bridge. because he is a hopeless degen believer. who lost everything, house, car, wife and all money. all because youre a top con who only cares about GETTING HIS.

Sounds like fun, right?

reevaluate things guy.

and LOL at services putting any effort into picking winners. this is how it goes. "Hey Carmine, who you like tonight?"
That's what I want to do.
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03-08-2014 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by skyDragon
Can you explain the term "top con" and what hours did you work?
its not exactly an "industry term" its just something I call the handful of guys who are making ridiculous money.

hours are basically M-F noon to five

weekends 6am-4pm sunday you will bounce after the first games kick 10am pst
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03-08-2014 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LedOut
its not exactly an "industry term" its just something I call the handful of guys who are making ridiculous money.

hours are basically M-F noon to five

weekends 6am-4pm sunday you will bounce after the first games kick 10am pst
So morals aside, if someone is a good salesman...this is something you can make a lot of money in?
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03-08-2014 , 08:44 PM
Here's my question - if the nature of the business is to screw clients, how could you trust the "top cons" to not screw their own employees, their partners, each other, etc?
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03-08-2014 , 08:45 PM
well, you kind of sound like a scumbag. you'll fit right in.
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03-08-2014 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by skyDragon
So morals aside, if someone is a good salesman...this is something you can make a lot of money in?
good isn't enough. you have to be ****ing incredible. but ya you can make a grip.
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03-08-2014 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LedOut
good isn't enough. you have to be ****ing incredible. but ya you can make a grip.
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
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03-08-2014 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem
Here's my question - if the nature of the business is to screw clients, how could you trust the "top cons" to not screw their own employees, their partners, each other, etc?
top cons are the employees. management monitors things pretty close its tough for them to pull anything. top cons pretty much just get a mark on the phone and take him down. lesser cons will bring top cons clients that may have potential but they cant close for what ever reason. when the top con whacks him the split the commish. so it is more of a team, us VS them POV.
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03-08-2014 , 08:59 PM
Which tout did you work for?
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03-08-2014 , 09:27 PM
Fiest

one story. Cokin comes in talking about how UNR was gonna crush Hawaii. at -14.5 on game day. as like his game of the year or some ****.

now this game was my favorite bet of the week. Wynn opens the game 9.5, I take a decent piece. line jumps I throw a pile on the ML. line shoots all the way up to 14.5 and I decide to play a huge middle. UNR had been getting backdoored a **** ton. and ive got some super live numbers.

so that Saturday im at the office calling degens when cokin comes in hyping UNR at the ****ty line. I call him over and breakout the tickets which I was hoping to cash after leaving work if the game did what I thought it would. Coking says "you bet that much on a game when you make $10/hr"

I say, dude, im hotter than a crackpipe. ill probably wind up shipping everything. Cokin"oh no, they win this game by 3 td's" Me, ya dude but theve been getting backdoored by everybody" "this middle is live a ****". I get a phone call. he walks off

game starts. Hawaii QB goes down on the first series. well, there goes my middle. but ill still make out ok with my ML bet. last minute or two of the game UNR up by 21, Hawaii has the ball. obv scores to lose by 14. I have by biggest win ever. Cokin comes out looking at the floor shaking his head. He claimed he bet it early at a better number. but never showed evidence. so he was probable full of ****.
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03-08-2014 , 09:42 PM
Sick.

Do you think you can give me a few bulletpoints of what I need to know going into it? The technical stuff.
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03-08-2014 , 09:45 PM
Probably being a degen helps selling degens
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03-08-2014 , 10:59 PM
I won't lie, the prospect of a 23 year old SkyDragon (who knows nothing about capping and potentially nothing about Vegas) sounds like it will make for a fun blog for a few weeks. I'll subscribe.
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03-08-2014 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
I won't lie, the prospect of a 23 year old SkyDragon (who knows nothing about capping and potentially nothing about Vegas) sounds like it will make for a fun blog for a few weeks. I'll subscribe.
It's not quite the degen story you're looking for. My friend from back home lives out there. The apartment is 5 miles from the office I'll be working from. I have 0 interest in gambling...not rolled enough for poker at any stake. I'm also going to pursue mma training,

Rent - $350 a month.
I'm going to be riding a bike to and from work.
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03-08-2014 , 11:04 PM
Not going to pursue poker at all. Sales and MMA.
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03-08-2014 , 11:05 PM
But I'm sure it will be interesting none the less....not much of a chance of self destruction,
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03-08-2014 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by skyDragon
It's not quite the degen story you're looking for. My friend from back home lives out there. The apartment is 5 miles from the office I'll be working from. I have 0 interest in gambling...not rolled enough for poker at any stake. I'm also going to pursue mma training,

Rent - $350 a month.
I'm going to be riding a bike to and from work.
Have you ever been to Vegas?
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03-08-2014 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Have you ever been to Vegas?
Never.
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03-08-2014 , 11:08 PM
Better chance of succeeding as a scamdicapper than all the idiots than move there to bet on sports professionally after a season of run good.
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03-08-2014 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by skyDragon
Never.
Then you may want to actually go before you predict how your life is going to go. That place is...special. Let's leave it at that.

I'm not rooting against you, it's just a hell of a place to be for a 23 year old young man. Lots of action, and I don't even just mean the poker.
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03-08-2014 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Then you may want to actually go before you predict how your life is going to go. That place is...special. Let's leave it at that.

I'm not rooting against you, it's just a hell of a place to be for a 23 year old young man. Lots of action, and I don't even just mean the poker.
No, I hear you. I think one of my best qualities is my mental focus. I won't be visiting the strip until I earn $10k. Just peddling sports picks, and the gym.
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