im actually kind of interested in the answer to this. in my limited experience i see these moves with syndicates too, but they move back alot less.

i'm also curious as to what book dr. bob uses to get his lines because i rarely get the lines he releases (i'm a subscriber)

Well, that's all well and good. This is a more interesting position for me anyway.


Future discussion, then. We'll see what we can figure out next season.

I don't know, I'll figure this out when I get there.

are you implying that Bob releases picks, gets tons of squares on them, and the syndicates pick up the 20 cents or whatever off the previous market that they wanted in the opposite direction?

If the books don't move lines on "square" money, then why would the lines move at all?

A few services are respected enough to move the lines when they release,other examples have been Phil Steele(when he's running good)Right Angle,Private Players of Pittsburgh and Donn Wagner.Sometimes syndicates have differing opinions which leads to the reverse line movement.

That is not the meaning of reverse line movement.

you see this kind of thing all the time

touts will run hot for a while then start releasing fades so they can cash in on the other side

then the market realizes this and starts fading his picks before he can get down on them

stay away

10 years != a while.

Then again, I don't know why I'm bothering to respond to a guy whose 19 posts include the following gems:



I kept you off ignore at first because I thought you were an awesome fake account leveling people, but I'm beginning to find that unlikely.

whatever this is you

lol porn/warez/topsite

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7...ogtalktout.jpg

Bump for losing record in NCAA/NFL/NFL Math Model. Holla!

Yeah, but think about how many jobs he saved or created!

shut up naj,, not even remotely funny bro

Solid.

LOL grumpyboot

If you grab Dr Bob's results over the last 4 seasons (including the present one) from his website you would be down over 30 betting units, betting at the lines/star value he suggests in every sport.
This is over a decent sample size.

This doesn't include the following

(a) 4 years of Tout fees for every sport

(b) The fact that many of his subscribers ended up taking much worse lines after release.

The average subscriber who payed every game has to be down somewhere south of 40-50 units over that period.

The fact he continues to claim he will win at 55-60% going forward is frankly laughable.

For starters nobody can predict their winrate going forward.
Your edge is a function of the "softness" of the lines you have to bet into.

My crystal ball is on the blink, so if anyone can predcit how soft a market will be going forward you are smarter than I.

Now some will claim that the results before the previous 4 seasons are just as valid.

I personally don't agree for a number of obvious reasons.

The good news is Dr Bob is a huge winner!

D.

This forum is too awesome.

Dr Bob has a 5 star release on one side, Brandon Lang has a 50 dimer on the other, who's the fade?

line is efficiently set

Strange how Bob now magically has much larger plays since he's down. Interesting how that works.

Clearly -- the line gets more inefficient as more information becomes know throughout the NFL season, Thrempy. It's so stunningly obvious I can't believe you didn't know about the Yoshing Theorem!

This thread is in need of a title change.

I helped a famous tout further his scamming people out of money. Brag?