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Old 03-28-2018, 07:22 PM   #26
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

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i can't find there TOS for a situation like this...
Its worth 2.5K to you, how hard did you look?

https://www.betstars.com/tos

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https://www.betstars.com/games/rules...BetSettlements

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In the case of all sports, bets are settled on the official result published by the official governing body immediately after the match or event has finished. This may be referred to as ‘weigh in’ signal, ‘podium presentation’ or any similar terminology. Any subsequent correction or amendment to this result will not apply for settlement purposes.

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...but i don't know how they can be protected.
by their TOS (which you agreed to), but again, you can always write to their regulator about it
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:20 AM   #27
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

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their*
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Can you clue us in on your punctuation strategy? Is it something like "I haven't used a period over the last span of 50 or so words, time to use one!".

I'm genuinely curious.
Who gives a **** did you understand what he said? Amuses me a certain country on this planet cares more about spelling and grammar than basic common sense or being able to find Europe on a map.
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Old 03-29-2018, 01:53 AM   #28
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

the best part of these threads is that no one ever addresses or even realises that they would'nt even take your bets if you are a long-term winning sports/horse bettor.

if you think poker players bumhunting are bad, then you are in for a world of hurt if you knew what bookmakers do to restrict winning players.
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Old 03-29-2018, 02:06 AM   #29
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

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i get your point 100% but it just looks so so bad, that you backed the winner and somehow end up losing, just like throwing over a winning poker hand and a losing hand scooping in your pot.
I had the dealer muck a tabled winner and the pot awarded to the losing hand before. I learned that according to the casino‘s house rule a mucked hand cant win even if it was tabled - there were cameras in place. Nothing you can do I guess...
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Old 03-29-2018, 03:11 AM   #30
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

Here's some information and actual photo finish from British Horse Racing.

https://www.britishhorseracing.com/p...esult-kempton/

The important point being:

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As per the Tattersalls rules of betting, the result that was called on the day stands for betting purposes.
Think they should payout as goodwill like the other bookmakers have.
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Old 03-29-2018, 04:29 AM   #31
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

If you had backed Bird For Life would you be creating threads asking why BetStars had refused to amend the result and take back the money you were offering them in a gesture of goodwill?

Even the Racing Post image you used to explain the change explains the original result stands for betting purposes.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:30 AM   #32
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Re: betstars stiffing there customers

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If you had backed Bird For Life would you be creating threads asking why BetStars had refused to amend the result and take back the money you were offering them in a gesture of goodwill?

Even the Racing Post image you used to explain the change explains the original result stands for betting purposes.
Any bookie that doesn’t pay out needs to have a good long look at themselves, they are cowboys. Bookies need to pay up and then vent their anger and disgust @BHAPressOffice and @kemptonparkrace for sheer incompetence. Not the punters fault at the end of the day 👍🏻 more so it's a total kick in the face to punters like me who lose longterm sports betting.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:42 AM   #33
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Any bookie that doesn’t pay out needs to have a good long look at themselves, they are cowboys. Bookies need to pay up and then vent their anger and disgust @BHAPressOffice and @kemptonparkrace for sheer incompetence. Not the punters fault at the end of the day 👍🏻 more so it's a total kick in the face to punters like me who lose longterm sports betting.
Why do they if they've settled the bet under the rules agreed by both parties at the time the bet was placed?

Should punters that backed Lance Armstrong to win the Tour de France be returning any winnings to the relevant bookies as he's since been disqualified?

How long of a time frame do you want bets to be subject to change, and do you think bookies should be recouping monies paid out on the declared winner?
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Old 03-29-2018, 12:52 PM   #34
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it bugs me why people still keep responding him.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:23 PM   #35
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Any bookie that doesn’t pay out needs to have a good long look at themselves, they are cowboys. Bookies need to pay up and then vent their anger and disgust @BHAPressOffice and @kemptonparkrace for sheer incompetence. Not the punters fault at the end of the day 👍🏻 more so it's a total kick in the face to punters like me who lose longterm sports betting.
If you're a longtime loser, they're actually doing you a favor whenever they refuse to change a payout decision based on an error.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:59 PM   #36
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Who gives a **** did you understand what he said? Amuses me a certain country on this planet cares more about spelling and grammar than basic common sense or being able to find Europe on a map.
Well said your sexy man and I love you

But not in a homosexual way.
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