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If that is what you're doing but you're getting redirected to the quoted, I suspect it's something to do with your browser (eg maybe that's what happens when you visit the site without an extension like uBo or uMatrix).

Fyi it doesn't actually have the video, but a long list of links that do/did. Some links work and some don't (file taken down).

Instead of dicking around with these virus links, pool some money together and pay me to write excruciatingly long and details summaries of each episode with my comments.

just kidding...but seriously I would probably do that. It was that enthralling, lol. Almost everyone ive ever had back and forths with and been blocked by on twitter, all in one place.

I just watched the series. I say its pretty good. Few questions to those that watched the entire series.



1. Does Vegas Dave actually own that villa in Mexico? What about that nice house he has in vegas? He kept showing his phone with like 500 dollar payment here etc and say like he made 10k today etc. Then says things like if he makes under 100k a day, thats a disappointment. Obviously this is bs. But does anyone know how much money someone like him make from their website? Im sure there are some ppl out there that buys his plays right? I mean certainly he doesn't have all those things unless he is making money? He said he has a 450k suv etc. That probably is leased or rented or might not even be his? But he certainly has money. But this is from instagram and his picks? Surely he has at least 5k worth of income every month right from site selling plays? Such as getting new people each time etc?




2. That Bill Krack guy is legit right? He seems to be the only legit guy there and that Epstein guy... and that DFS guy. I thoguht it was interesting how they were manipulating an nfl total with the other guy of his where it seem to be in the meadowlands. But then when the number moves, he goes and bets 3300 to win 3000 on a total getting a bit better number. So he bet even a smaller amount on the other site at pinnacle to move it? I thought if someone was manupulating nfl total, surely they would be betting 5 figures or more on it. I mean does pinny move a total because of a bet from his account for probably 3k or less? Because he seems to imply he bet total one way to move the total and then bet more on the other side. But that make no sense because he betting like 2k and under with pinny, then go only 3k on the other side at meadowlands?



3. That David Epstein guy... my spelling might be incorrect. But is he and Krack the 2 most legit guys on this show in terms of sportsbetting? He seems to be very knowledgeable and then shows him betting 5 figures on futures even. Seems to have his own seat at the westgate reserved and seem to be high roller. So this guy a high roller sportsbettor and legit right?



4. That guy that was advertised as a degen gambler. Would you say he fits the description of degenerate gambler? He certainly has the look and attitude of it. It was like he was the right person to depict it.


5. Is there a reason why they didn't get dink or alan boston? Surprised they aren't in it but they were in the best of it documentary.



6. Any reason they didn't get steve stevens? I saw that video from steve stevens where he commented on that show and he said its okay but he basically mocked and destroyed every single character on the show. I thought he was hilarious on this. I mean if vegas dave is not legit and fraud, why not steve stevens?

Idk he's far more likeable than the typical degens I encounter. The ones I rub shoulders with tend to be insufferable POS that I find myself rooting to see lose. They sit at the poker table to take a breather from the beating they took in another game. While gracing the poker table, they whine about how they have the worst luck of anyone in the world, they get angry at the dealers over the cards that come out, and they berate other players for not playing a hand as stupidly as they would have. I feel like I can spot a degen the moment they sit down just from the personality that they all seem to share.

Now it occurs to me that maybe there are two types of degens and maybe that's the answer to the question of whether gambling addiction is a real disease. That is, maybe the fat guy in the documentary is the kind of degen for whom the addiction is a disease, while perhaps the degens I described are just deadbeats being deadbeats. (How convenient of me to hypothesize a separate category for the people I dislike, that's some good science right there )

that guy wasnt like most degens, no. That dude was pretty much completely self-aware...he just seemed to be really depressed. Most degens dont know that theyre degens and usually think they would be winners if it werent for luck or "fixed games" or bad play calls or whatever. Theyre also waaaay more insufferable and god forbid they win something.

As miserable as that guys life must be, I guess it could be worse. He has a job, has his little 'community' at the sports book. Even that hot chick hes friends with. I liked that guy, I hope hes doing ok

It is a little hard to figure out vegas daves money situation. But there was one verrrry revealing comment his parents made that was pretty quick but I think spells it out. The show asked the parents how much theyve loaned dave over the years and it was well over a million. When they asked when was the last time they looked at each other and the mom goes "when was the last game?" So implying that theyve loaned him money in the past week.

I dont know exactly what he does but if I had to guess, he probably makes decent money but is always broke. The kinda guy with a lambo outside asking his mom for a loan. I dont know what would be sadder though...if hes living life like that while being a millionaire, that might be the saddest thing of all time.

Vegas Dave shouldn't be likened to a "handicapper" or sports bettor. Like Steve Stevens, he's more in the telemarketing scammer category.

Pretty good example of degen mindset

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...d-16k-1738987/

holy ****. that is the saddest thread I think ive ever seen on here

it's actually hilarious dude lives in a first world country, only spends about $15K/year on his hobby by mashing buttons and thus gets all the attention

while providing for countless families in Ukraine, Croatia etc

Sure yeah he's "only" spending nearly all of his food money on his "hobby" where he shreds money for 40-50 hours a week.

He's not providing, the Finnish taxpayers are. All of his funds are from welfare. On top of that he's in debt somehow (who would give someone like that a loan, I have no f'ing clue).

I agree he's a more typical example of a degen mindset. He calls his opponents ******ed, boasts in the chat when he gets lucky in a hand, throws a childish tantrum after every losing hand, blames his losses on luck or rigging even when the graph shows him running above EV (which, with his EV, is still losing), etc. Sample size of 350k but no sample is big enough for him to take responsibility for anything. He's infallible and all-knowing but the universe is against him, woe is him, boohooohooo sad violin.

Safe to say I'm not shedding tears for him, but yes it's a sad story and it's a shame nothing can be done for him, short of some 3rd party intervening and locking him in a gambling rehab of sorts. You probably can't ban him from gambling because there are underground outs.

he's not dying from cancer or out on the street or even starving

he's not hurting anyone but himself with his actions (taxpayers aside lol) and even that part is debatable

I guess it's sad in a way that a sprained ankle is sad while there are thousands of amputees around us

I dont think its sad as in aww this poor guy. I think its more sad as in like how ****ed up are humans that someone can have enough intelligence to learn at least 2 languages, figure out the internet and forums and how to use HUDS and upload to youtube and whatever else, yet still dedicate their lives to losing money in online poker in the most excruciatingly brutal way possible, all while bragging about it. Its like someone choosing to live in hell.

humans are complicated

this guy is a criminal and a scumbag period,whoever compliments this **** has a screw loose.

bought the 1st season this weekend, and plan on checking it out this week

six months too late, but i watched this today. They did Todd dirty. He's the nicest guy ever and is at the South Point every Sat/Sun from morning to night.

Need a S2 of Vegas Dave's marriage and eventual divorce

I forget, Which one was todd?

Todd was the personable degen who spent his days at southpoint

Would love to have a beer with him next time I'm in Vegas

yup, when s2