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Originally Posted by Johnny_B
If it's not Biden I feel like it almost has to be Kamala. Besides the poor optics of jumping over a black, female incumbent VP, I'm not convinced anyone better wants the nom this cycle. Whitmer, Newsom, Shapiro, Warnock, Pritzker, Beshear, Cooper, Moore, et al. all have bright futures ahead of them in politics and all likely view themselves as the future of the party. All of them could have a good run in the future. I don't know if any of them want to jump into a sinking ship as their only shot. You can lose in the primary and take another run in a few cycles, but you can't make it to the general and lose and get another shot.
You have 3 months tto build national name recognition and overcome a starting deficit of 5 points in all the swing states. Is that where you want to take your only shot as a 40-50 something rising star? I wouldn't want to sacrifice my career in a lost cause bid. Run in 2028 after Trump and Project 2025 **** the country up and people are angry with the party in power. With Trump out of the race in 2028, Dems likely start with a built in advantage in '28.
It's different for Kamala exactly BECAUSE she's unpopular. She has to know after her 2020 run that this is her only shot. She's not getting it in 2028 or beyond. She's willing to start in a deep hole because it's now or never. Better to have a ~30% chance (imo) than never getting a chance at all. And even if she loses she has a built in it excuse and falling on the sword for the good of the party might buy her some political capital within the party (possibly a cabinet position if Dems win in 2028 or whatever).
All fair and solid points outside of calling Kamala a black woman (she's an Indian as demonstrated by her wearing a full Indian wardrobe and being so proud to be the first Indian Senator when elected. She embraced her father's side only when running for VP for the black vote), and this project 2025 nonsense. Trump has denounced that, and I don't know any Republican that has ever thought a thing of it.
Now can we get back to this hotdog discussion like civilized people? JD Vance seems to come from the boiled hotdog background with no toppings and that's how he came across to me last night, while Trump is only the finest with all the toppings. I liked Vivek better as VP, but he's definitely a vegan hotdog and I don't know if all of America is ready to embrace a vegan hotdog as VP.