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08-16-2020 , 03:25 PM
anyone else concerned about the post office and trump's pathetic political appointment?

i'm sure the PO is ripe for consolidation/restructuring....but major overall just months before major mail-in election is very bad.

i have zero doubt that if everyone's votes count, trump gets destroyed.

and of course, trump/wife, pence/wife, ivanka/jared, idiot pr spokeswoman/husband have all mailed in election ballots in the recent past.
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08-16-2020 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rivercitybirdie
anyone else concerned about the post office and trump's pathetic political appointment?

i'm sure the PO is ripe for consolidation/restructuring....but major overall just months before major mail-in election is very bad.

i have zero doubt that if everyone's votes count, trump gets destroyed.

and of course, trump/wife, pence/wife, ivanka/jared, idiot pr spokeswoman/husband have all mailed in election ballots in the recent past.
Who wouldn't be concerned? It's an open attempt to rig the election. There's no shame in this administration.
Government has been trying to change the postal service for about the last 50 years . To make it more cost effective. But what's happening now has very little to do with that. Removing mail boxes? Need I say more.
Anyways. It seems enough resistance has formed to slow them down.
Republicans and independents use mail in voting too. So we don't really know what impact this will have.
If you're going to vote by mail, send in your ballot as soon as possible.


Edit: a lot of people work for the post office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...uz4?li=BBnb7Kz

Last edited by Nepeeme2008; 08-16-2020 at 06:01 PM.
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08-16-2020 , 08:22 PM
Nobody said voter fraud doesn't exist.
All these cases I highlighted are proof that the system works.
These people have been caught. As the government in charge, Trump and his administration should have been doing everything possible to ensure a secure election. And once again, just like with Covid19, he's a failure. What's his answer? Denying people the right to vote. Which amounts to voter suppression.
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08-17-2020 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
All these cases you highlighted
Fixed my post.

In other news, the Trump campaign , according to my guy "let's talk elections"c is concentrating heavily on AZ, WI, Georgia and NC and Florida. Skipping Pennsylvania. For now at least. Although it doesn't make much sense to me.
Trump is down only by 6 points in some polls. Not too far out of the margin of error.
Elections are too expensive. And that's a non partisan statement. When the incumbent doesn't have enough money to advertise everywhere?
Part of the problem I think is that American elections are far too long.
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08-17-2020 , 07:36 PM
Dolly Parton stands with BLM.
Does anyone think that it will possibly affect the election?
Will Trump call Dolly Parton nasty?
Will Ivr ever be able to recover from this trauma?

Stay tuned. Don't touch that dial.
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08-17-2020 , 07:46 PM
78 percent of Democrats are voting by mail.
Compared to 15% Republican
68 % of Democrats are planning to vote early in person voting.
Only 25% of Republican's.
Yes folks, you can vote early. You don't have to wait until election day. I'm just saying this because we might have some first time voters. Not everyone here is an old geezer like me.
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08-17-2020 , 07:52 PM
Lvr I’m sure they’d love your bad faith political posting in the politics forum. Why don’t you just post there with people who love fighting with each other instead of clogging up this betting thread?
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08-17-2020 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
Lvr I’m sure they’d love your bad faith political posting in the politics forum. Why don’t you just post there with people who love fighting with each other instead of clogging up this betting thread?
Ouch.
But I gave a lot of stats. Stats that I thought are relevant. And Ivr started it.
But maybe you're right.
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08-17-2020 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
Ouch.
But I gave a lot of stats. Stats that I thought are relevant. And Ivr started it.
But maybe you're right.
Are you addressing me or Ivr. Lol.
We, Ivr and I, should both take a hike.
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08-17-2020 , 08:40 PM
Ivr my bad �
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08-17-2020 , 08:51 PM
No no. No worries.
I throw in a few stuff, that I think at least are relevant, so I can legitimize my low jabs.
It's sort of a life long habit.
I'll have to stick to meaningful stuff from now on or not say anything.
I'll try to not be triggered from the Ivr's of this forum. Pray for me folks.

Edit: but I'm not ashamed of being a good debater.
Plato would be proud.
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08-17-2020 , 10:30 PM
Gotta say, this virtual DNC isn't doing anything for me. So far we've seen Whitmer and Klobuchar demonstrate why Biden didn't pick them for VP. Pretty meh. Hopefully Michelle and Bernie can liven it up.
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08-17-2020 , 11:05 PM
Michelle was awesome until she said, " I know Joe isn't perfect".
For Pete's sake. Ruined it.
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08-17-2020 , 11:51 PM
I can't see either convention mattering much, I do hope the DNC doesn't take the Bernie/AOC wing for granted though, if they **** on them too hard it could damage turnout, Biden needs to portray the moderate while also signalling to the base he'll at least get some of their less scary priorities done

I listened to some of Bernie's speech, he was fine couldn't be bothered with most of the conventions etc

To be honest I think the biggest sweat at the moment is the post office stuff. Trump's best path to victory is low turnout/suppressing the Dem vote hard. Dems need to drown him in a sea of turnout and not let him **** with the post office's ability to mess with absentee ballots uncontested, put the pressure on Roberts early and make it clear the supreme court's legitimacy is on the line in case the election ends up in the hands of the supreme court etc in a spot where Biden clearly won but Dem leaning absentee ballots were deliberately not processed etc

This could be an utter **** show if early returns show Trump leading, he declares victory and then the absentee ballots come in hard for Biden and he wins a clear but close victory and Trump claims rigged without any proof etc but sends it to the R leaning supreme court
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08-18-2020 , 12:11 AM
I really enjoyed Bernie's backdrop of split firewood. Very Vermont.
Thought Michelle Obama killed it. Pitch-perfect appeal. It's really a shame she won't run for president herself.
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08-18-2020 , 08:47 AM
On my way to work this morning on the radio. 7 high speed processing machines removed from Boston post offices. 3 from Worcester. Now that work has to be done by hand. If you want to cut costs, you'd think the way to go is more machines and less people, not the opposite. I think Lukashenko is in the oval office. Doesn't make any sense.
Especially since Trump has no chance in Massachusetts either way.
What do 4 more years of Trump and the Republicans look like? A week after the storm in Iowa, thousands still without power. The Republican governor didn't ask for emergency aid until four days later. Lady's and gentlemen, welcome to the republic of Congo.
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08-18-2020 , 09:40 AM
I'm seeing Joe Biden -148, Democrats -150 at Heritage Sports bookie.

Has it been lower than this for the Dems lately ?
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08-18-2020 , 11:50 AM
It got to about -135 briefly a day or two ago on Betfair thats the lowest its been since I bet the -132 a couple months back. Couple tighter polls + Trump sabotaging the post office has sent the line back in

Next few weeks will be interesting to see which way the line goes
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08-18-2020 , 10:12 PM
AOC endorses Bernie... lol. DEMOCRATS.
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08-19-2020 , 06:38 AM
Thats not what happened its a formal process that the second highest delegate getter is nominated too, then endorses the actual nominee (Biden) etc

This is no different to standard practice and DNC literally had asked her do this as it's part of the procedure

Some of AOC's twitter posts on the matter below

Convention rules require roll call & nominations for every candidate that passes the delegate threshold.

I was asked to 2nd the nom for Sen. Sanders for roll call.

I extend my deepest congratulations to
@JoeBiden
- let’s go win in November.

and

Thank you
@DemConvention
for having me deliver Sen. Sanders’ roll call nomination speech.

NBC ran a misleading story that they have since retracted and apologised for (see their twitter feed)

AOC was literally going through a procedural motion to nominate the candidate who got the second most delegates so he can concede and endorse the nominee

The hate boner the right has for AOC is sad and ridiculous, by all means disagree with her on policy but no need for them to lie about it lol
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08-19-2020 , 03:19 PM
Don’t blame me, blame the fake news media complex and the 1%. AOC GOAT.
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08-19-2020 , 07:18 PM
Yeah the media misreported it for clicks and to further the anti aoc narrative which while standard for fox is embarrassing for other networks
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08-19-2020 , 08:35 PM
AOC and other progressives have watched the Tea Party and Freedom Caucus pull the GOP far to the right, and they're planning on doing the same thing. It's incredibly effective to knock out some 10-term comfortable congressmen in a primary. Everyone else in a safe blue seat is going to have to toe the line or they could be next.

That said, it's not going to save Trump. If anything, it's going to make things worse for him, because you have leftists inside the Democratic party pulling votes that would otherwise go to the Greens or just stay home.
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08-19-2020 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
Lvr I’m sure they’d love your bad faith political posting in the politics forum. Why don’t you just post there with people who love fighting with each other instead of clogging up this betting thread?
more liberal buzz words lol

at least post with your main
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