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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
If I had to make a case for Harris (and I don't like her much personally) it would be
Sharp debater, should eviscerate Pence in the VP debate, clearly intelligent and willing to play dirty if required to win (see Biden attack first debate), won't be bullied by Trump and is 'tough'.
Former prosecutor makes it harder for Trump's 'law and order' talking points to stick or call her soft on crime
Senator from a blue state, no downside of losing her Senate seat
Young and ambitious, clearly wants to run for President in the future and is clearly qualified enough to take over the Presidency if Biden dies
Decent demographic fit as a woman of color
Comes across as a moderate but has a fairly progressive voting record as a Senator so can play up either moderate or leftist credentials depending on the need at the time
The downside is
Comes across as insincere in the fight for social justice because as an ex prosecutor she basically made her career throwing POC in jail for stuff like pot and distrusted by the progressive left
Willie Brown/slept her way to the top stuff. Republicans will run hard with that, and it will be a problem.
Severe likability issues because she's seen as insincere and also can come across as a 'bitchy bossy woman' which might be scary to midwestern voters - basically all of the same 'strong bossy not likeable woman' downsides Warren has, and Warren has all of the same upsides except being black plus Warren is liked a lot more by the progressive left (although not the insane fringe Warren is a snake left, but thats barely anyone and those voters would hate Kamala more anyway)
Not from a swing state, not particularly well liked by black voters considering she herself is half black
While she's a good campaigner on paper, the more people saw of her the less they liked - remember she was one of the first to drop out after briefly trading as the favourite for the nomination after the first debate
I'm not sure the perfect candidate exists for Biden right now - the best thing he can do is figure out who will do the least harm to the ticket while helping him with at least one key demographic. I feel like he's doing a perfectly fine job of running a 'lets get things back to normal' campaign while letting LOLRepublicans The Lincoln Project effectively run his viral attack ads for him and just staying out of Trumps way and letting him hang himself. The only three ways Biden should be able to lose from here barring a major new scandal which is unlikely given how heavily he's been vetted are either Trump finds a way to cheat successfully, record low turnout or Biden somehow makes this election not a referendum on Trump and becomes even less likable himself somehow.
Kamala Harris is a horrific debater. Tulsi knocked her into outer space. Tulsi told the world that Kamala Harris kept an innocent person on death row due to a late filing technicality. He was stone cold innocent, and Harris's office was aware of that fact, but because the convicted guy's attorneys had missed a certain filing deadline, they fought tooth and nail to keep him locked up. In response to Tulsi Gabbard Harris shook her head, then gave the stupid response that she was against the death penalty.
Harris's biggest moment was also her lowest, and that is when she ambushed Biden trying to knock him out of the race. People forget that lots of people were trying to write Biden off at that time. If Kamala was likeable at all, didn't have a horrific record as a prosecutor, and didn't have such a bad personal history, she might have knocked Biden out and slingshotted into contention.
Harris had the T shirts ready for sale that night, her campaign quickly derailed, and she dropped out so as not to be embarrassed by her lack of support, particularly among black people. She polled at about 5 percent in South Carolina. People also forget that Bernie Sanders was the overwhelming betting favorite in March, and for a brief moment you could get Biden at 15 and 20 to 1 to be the Democratic nominee, and 60 to 1 to win it all. That quickly changed, but it shows you how wrong political punditry usually is. So wrong...almost every time. Nobody had Pence on the list...It was Chris Christie and Bob Corner. Trump was never going with another loudmouth like Christie.
Harris waited until Biden was a lock to support him. If it would have been Bernie she would have supported him. Harris is a fraud and it is known by all who view this with an open mind. Biden's advisor in the selection process was stunned when he asked Kamala Harris about her attack on Biden. He was stunned at her lack of remorse at all. Even Trump basher tv show host Stephen Colbert asked her about it. She just cackled and said "It was a debate" over and over as Colbert surprisingly pressed her on it. She never ever addresses any serious question, nor does she ever admit to a mistake.
Harris has become an obnoxious Twitter partisan loudmouth with daily lazy talking points that mean nothing, and also shamed humanity trying to pass anti-lynching legislation the week after George Floyd's death. She knows this is her only shot in her life to have a chance at being president, so she is going to go down in flames with boring partisan yapping about issues she had zero interest in before she started angling for the presidency.
Everything about her is negative, wrong for the moment, wrong for the big historical context of the presidency, and so for about 50 reasons she will never be chosen. There is nothing positive at all about her that would cause anyone on earth to choose her over Rice or Warren. Elizabeth Warren is far more deserving, but of course her fault is that she she have been born ten years later and should not have been white. People talk about Warren not being able to win Massachusetts. She has always been more of a national big issue politician, and not winning Massachusetts, as someone here mentioned, is not all it seemed, as she had no chance, her supporters knew it, and a decent chunk moved to Bernie. I'm not saying she is loved there, but....
Warren is the sincere person you would want a heartbeat away. Biden could easily go with Rice because Rice does not appear to be the type who would run in four years. Same for Bass. Warrens age might actually help her in this regard. Kamala Harris is the last person Biden and his administration would want as the next in line, for a host of obvious reasons.
Don't drink the Kool Aid. Kamala Harris never gets chosen here, and I mean never. The analysis in this thread is so bad. People talking about swing states...lol. No matter whom is chosen, even if it was somehow Whitmer from Michigan, or Demmings from Florida, it doesn't matter at all in those states. I bet that three months ago less than 15 percent of Floridians knew who Val Demmings was. I'd bet under that number for a lot.
This selection is a Big Picture long term decision for the Democratic party, and the insiders who will actually make the decision are not passing the historical torch to Kamala Harris. It just isn't happening. Most of the insight here and in the media is similar to when professional sports gets close to the playoffs. For example, you will have two bad teams in the NFL playing with three weeks to go...The home team can still make the playoffs if they win out, while the road team is already eliminated. Teams are essentially equal in talent. Home team is minus 6 points and everybody jumps on them because they "have something to play for". They miss the Big picture. There is more pressure on the home team, while the visitors play as if there is nothing to lose, and the visiting team players are also playing for next year's paychecks and contracts, as well. Take the dog every time because the lazy analysis is the wrong side. This happens all the time in the NBA, as well.
Last edited by Elves; 08-06-2020 at 12:11 AM.