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11-27-2020 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whb
How about WI going for Trump ?

What are you setting the line at?
Based on the Wisconsin result being certified?

You can have 10 to 1 if you want, your 250 vs my 2500 or whatever lmk
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11-27-2020 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Please post a link to one credible source stating that only 1.8M people voted by mail in PA.
How about this my sweet Einstein:

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...cosponId=32628

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A RESOLUTION

Declaring the results of statewide electoral contests in the 2020 General Election to be in dispute.
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11-27-2020 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by whb
How about this my sweet Einstein:

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs...cosponId=32628

I’m hardly an Einstein as I couldn’t find where it states only 1.8M people voted. Can you point it out? Thanks whb.
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11-27-2020 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Based on the Wisconsin result being certified?

You can have 10 to 1 if you want, your 250 vs my 2500 or whatever lmk
The finalized winner after all recounts and whatnot is cleared up ends up being Trump. That’s your line ?
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11-27-2020 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by whb
The finalized winner after all recounts and whatnot is cleared up ends up being Trump. That’s your line ?
Yes, the certified official winner of Wisconsin (not a faithless elector scenario or whatever, grades on the certified winner of the most votes in the state based on final vote count/all recounts exhausted/etc).

You can have 3 to 1 on Trump flips ANY state if you want alternatively from the 'current' results (eg, Trump officially certified as receiving more votes in any of GA AZ MI WI PA NV etc after all recounts/when vote count is final - again this is certified winner of most votes in the state, not including any faithless elector scenarios)

Any opinions you have re voter fraud irrelevant to the grading, it is graded on the official vote count who has more votes in the state as of the result of that state being certified after all recounts are finished. If it's Biden I win, if it's Trump you win, if it's any other scenario (eg state rules they can't determine who won, there are faithless electors who vote against the state's official winner, no results are ever certified etc) it voids

Last edited by SwoopAE; 11-27-2020 at 07:04 PM.
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11-27-2020 , 07:20 PM
Swoop should have all the action he can get / wants from you since he’s had to put up with you whb, but if there’s any action leftover I’ll put my name on the waitlist since you called me out earlier. I’ll mirror any bets you have with him for any amount you want as long as we can have it escrowed

Your tears are worth more than the money
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11-27-2020 , 08:35 PM
That is a valid point; after you disappearing for almost a month after the election and to date have paid half (not a problem as long as you pay the rest when results are final) i'd want your side escrowed to an agreed upon poster or paid in advance and I send back + your profit if your side wins. Happy to book up to 5k risk my end on either bet I offered, maybe more if we can be a bit firmer with exact terms

I don't think there's been a period in the past decade or so i've gone more than a couple days without posting here. I'd rather not be waiting a month not knowing if you'll ever show up if your side loses.

Posters like Mrrodriguez and Holidayinthesun from the forum here can attest i'm good for my end/have done business with them for larger sums with no issue, or happy to escrow to an agreed upon third party if need be
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11-27-2020 , 09:43 PM
i found out 2 different people i know believe in the flat earth a few years back. they're pretty normal, if a bit isolated, and i'm still friends with one of them who happens to be an exceptionally good poker player.

one lesson i learned is to not argue the merits of their case vs them. they've seen a lot of youtube and other things on the internet. being a debunker is a tiresome job and is going to wear a friendship out very quickly... and there's always going to be more and more you need to debunk.

the next big lesson is to not argue with them because they're very likely knowingly acting in bad faith and definitely want the conflict. they can simultaneously know they're being absurd and hold tight to their beliefs nonetheless. at least that's my take on it. in the end it doesn't matter anyway because you're not going to convince them of anything if they are indeed big into conspiracy. they will believe conspiracies upon the first time encountering them. i asked one of my FE believing friends if we took a rocket and circled the globe, would you still believe the earth is flat? he responded he wouldn't believe his eyes. he told me he'll believe any conspiracy.

it's just not worth it. not to say people who think trump won are all on this level, but many are, and others are on this "spectrum". this idea of a spectrum wrt conspiratorial tendencies in people is an idea i'm obsessed with. seems like a lot of people post-election are going to move on the spectrum from likely-to-believe stuff to full-believing a lot of stuff. ever since "fake news" republicans/Q came along we've been moving that direction as a country.

if these are your friends and you want to keep them around then you need to create your boundaries. never go down the route of arguing. they will continually try to bring up conspiracy, but tell them you're not arguing about that on the merits and they can believe what they want. had to tell one friend to stop calling me a sheep lol. you can ask them how they feel about stuff, and tbh it's pretty interesting/informative. they can be totally normal people in every other facet from my experience.

on the other hand some of them you absolutely don't want to keep around. see: /r/QAnonCasualties. if they're your family member, that's a tough one. if they're your friend, not so tough.

...

only thing that pisses me off are the grifters grifting the believers like rudy/trump/ted cruz. cruz doesn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. i don't think trump has any firmly held beliefs, but knows a good grift.

Last edited by hERESY; 11-27-2020 at 10:13 PM. Reason: imo
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11-27-2020 , 11:10 PM
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...nsylvania-race

Another blow to freedom. Court, by 3 Republican appointees, one of them by Trump himself, rejected Trump's appeal to reject the Pennsylvania results.
Stop the steal!

Oh yes, I've finally smartened up and have turned MAGA. Nobody listens to liberals. Wake up people, MAGA is where it's at. All I have to do on my YouTube channel is cry the election was rigged and say the earth is flat and I'll have millions of followers.
I'm setting up my Patreon right now.

Hope everyone had a happy Indigenous People Day.
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11-27-2020 , 11:20 PM
Just came in to check of any updates on Pinny paying. Guessing they havent updated their terms of when the payout will come?

Also funny to see WHB back and still betting for Trump wins lmfao.
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11-27-2020 , 11:26 PM
No, no money no more. As the great Bob Marley once said.
Not yet. But when pay day finally comes, it will be all the sweeter.

Meanwhile, here in OMC land, I'm watching on YouTube, MAGA Cringe Compilation.
I'm currently on #3. Tears flowing down my eyes. So sad.

Edit: 'Evangelicals Freak Out' is also recommended family viewing.

Last edited by Nepeeme2008; 11-27-2020 at 11:34 PM.
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11-27-2020 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...nsylvania-race

Another blow to freedom. Court, by 3 Republican appointees, one of them by Trump himself, rejected Trump's appeal to reject the Pennsylvania results.
Stop the steal!

Oh yes, I've finally smartened up and have turned MAGA. Nobody listens to liberals. Wake up people, MAGA is where it's at. All I have to do on my YouTube channel is cry the election was rigged and say the earth is flat and I'll have millions of followers.
I'm setting up my Patreon right now.

Hope everyone had a happy Indigenous People Day.
SCOTUS will issue guidance this week probably. Many cases are getting too stupid even for someone like yourself.

Oh and let’s not forget Alito! Who’s asked for the marked ballots to be set aside and yet there are many rumors saying they didn’t (official letter was they didn’t), and all the envelopes associated to mail ballots have been destroyed! Ooopsie daisy. I wonder how he’ll react to disobeying his orders?


It’s okay don’t be alarmed because the Constitution is clear and there’s a number of justices that got publicly humiliated by:

* Thomas - Biden
* Kavanaugh - Harris

... you get the point. Don’t forget to tune into CNN, it seems even they are starting to show and analyze the possible scenarios for Trump to win! Stay tuned.

Last edited by whb; 11-27-2020 at 11:34 PM. Reason: More info
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11-27-2020 , 11:47 PM
Update: I stopped watching. At first it was sort of fun, but then I started feeling my brain turn into mush.
Don't revel in other people's misery folks. Be nice.
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11-27-2020 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...nsylvania-race

Another blow to freedom. Court, by 3 Republican appointees, one of them by Trump himself, rejected Trump's appeal to reject the Pennsylvania results.
Stop the steal!

Oh yes, I've finally smartened up and have turned MAGA. Nobody listens to liberals. Wake up people, MAGA is where it's at. All I have to do on my YouTube channel is cry the election was rigged and say the earth is flat and I'll have millions of followers.
I'm setting up my Patreon right now.

Hope everyone had a happy Indigenous People Day.

This grift works better if your black.
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11-28-2020 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Nepeeme2008
Update: I stopped watching. At first it was sort of fun, but then I started feeling my brain turn into mush.
Don't revel in other people's misery folks. Be nice.
I’ll try to be nicer you’re right. Maybe this can cheer you Nate lovers up for a sweet Friday night!



So injunction remains on PA. Weird! Funny how I come here loaded to the tits with evidence and you all are lacking of even reason.

Cheers
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11-28-2020 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by whb
SCOTUS will issue guidance this week probably. Many cases are getting too stupid even for someone like yourself.

Oh and let’s not forget Alito! Who’s asked for the marked ballots to be set aside and yet there are many rumors saying they didn’t (official letter was they didn’t), and all the envelopes associated to mail ballots have been destroyed! Ooopsie daisy. I wonder how he’ll react to disobeying his orders?


It’s okay don’t be alarmed because the Constitution is clear and there’s a number of justices that got publicly humiliated by:

* Thomas - Biden
* Kavanaugh - Harris

... you get the point. Don’t forget to tune into CNN, it seems even they are starting to show and analyze the possible scenarios for Trump to win! Stay tuned.
Does this mean you're not subscribing to my new YouTube MAGA channel?
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11-28-2020 , 12:06 AM
One more from a lawyer who’s very opinionated:



Wonder if the Brits are changing the line now?
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11-28-2020 , 12:17 AM
Hey man you accused me earlier of having no skin in the game. Do you wanna bet? You seem confident about your side
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11-28-2020 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
Hey man you accused me earlier of having no skin in the game. Do you wanna bet? You seem confident about your side
Sure min bet $50k? What’s betfair doing now 30-1?
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11-28-2020 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by whb
So when Bovada, Betfair and others pay out and have to reverse that action....
When OJ Simpson finds the true killers....
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11-28-2020 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by somigosaden
When OJ Simpson finds the true killers....
Bookmaker hasn't paid out my OJ bet either truly a scam of a site
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11-28-2020 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by whb
Sure min bet $50k? What’s betfair doing now 30-1?
As long as we can escrow I’m fine with 50k min yes. How much do you want? Not agreeing to line, I’ll check later as I’m out and won’t be sober for the rest of the evening. Do you want just straight election winner atm?

Should I find an escrow?
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11-28-2020 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hERESY
i found out 2 different people i know believe in the flat earth a few years back. they're pretty normal, if a bit isolated, and i'm still friends with one of them who happens to be an exceptionally good poker player.

one lesson i learned is to not argue the merits of their case vs them. they've seen a lot of youtube and other things on the internet. being a debunker is a tiresome job and is going to wear a friendship out very quickly... and there's always going to be more and more you need to debunk.

the next big lesson is to not argue with them because they're very likely knowingly acting in bad faith and definitely want the conflict. they can simultaneously know they're being absurd and hold tight to their beliefs nonetheless. at least that's my take on it. in the end it doesn't matter anyway because you're not going to convince them of anything if they are indeed big into conspiracy. they will believe conspiracies upon the first time encountering them. i asked one of my FE believing friends if we took a rocket and circled the globe, would you still believe the earth is flat? he responded he wouldn't believe his eyes. he told me he'll believe any conspiracy.

it's just not worth it. not to say people who think trump won are all on this level, but many are, and others are on this "spectrum". this idea of a spectrum wrt conspiratorial tendencies in people is an idea i'm obsessed with. seems like a lot of people post-election are going to move on the spectrum from likely-to-believe stuff to full-believing a lot of stuff. ever since "fake news" republicans/Q came along we've been moving that direction as a country.

if these are your friends and you want to keep them around then you need to create your boundaries. never go down the route of arguing. they will continually try to bring up conspiracy, but tell them you're not arguing about that on the merits and they can believe what they want. had to tell one friend to stop calling me a sheep lol. you can ask them how they feel about stuff, and tbh it's pretty interesting/informative. they can be totally normal people in every other facet from my experience.

on the other hand some of them you absolutely don't want to keep around. see: /r/QAnonCasualties. if they're your family member, that's a tough one. if they're your friend, not so tough.

...

only thing that pisses me off are the grifters grifting the believers like rudy/trump/ted cruz. cruz doesn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. i don't think trump has any firmly held beliefs, but knows a good grift.
hERESY, well stated. David Brooks wrote a great OpEd in NY Times about why conspiracy theories work for many people. Helping them make sense of things that don't fit their preconceived notions and unable/unwilling to take in new information that may alter their thinking. That lack of critical thinking combined with poor education is deadly. It's why a certain person said they "Love the uneducated" during a visit to Las Vegas circa 2016. Also, why the United States public school system was being destroyed during the past 4 years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/26/o...sultPosition=1

I understand this is a betting thread, so with that said it seems like two sides one with facts and one with misinformation, have a feeling this doesn't end well for anybody, but especially those who are uneducated in a new world largely based on who has the best information.
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11-28-2020 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorbread
As long as we can escrow I’m fine with 50k min yes. How much do you want? Not agreeing to line, I’ll check later as I’m out and won’t be sober for the rest of the evening. Do you want just straight election winner atm?

Should I find an escrow?
I may also be interested in this, rules I'm looking for is that I win any situation Biden ticket is not sworn in + conspiracy theory possibilities including no one sworn in/civil war/split into multiple governments. Biden or Harris sworn in normally in January I lose. Looking for 16:1 on this.

Alternatively, a more simple bet of "will pinnacle ultimately refund bets made on Trump (either they win or are returned)". Looking for 18:1 on this.

Looking to put down $1k-$6k, happy to escrow if I can be confident I'll be paid. Partial escrow for other side may be okay due to long odds. Escrow can be released if Trump concedes but bet not forfeited in case of reversal. Prefer bet to be denominated in btc but USD may be okay.
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11-28-2020 , 04:04 PM
For simplicity sake, I’d prefer to follow the books. Pinny hasn’t said **** all so do you want to just follow betfair at 18:1? I’d prefer not to have 108k in escrow for (potentially) months to pick up 6k. Is there an amount of partial you’d be ok with or would vouches be ok with you?

Would you be ok with me holding the 6k or are there any regs here who can do this?
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