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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Lockdowns in Australia causing more than equivalent deaths? What?
Covid is closing in on 250k deaths and rising 1k a day in the US
Australia is at 907 and largely has the situation under control now
Adjusting for population that is about 20k deaths in Australia and remember in America they're almost certainly not being tracked properly due to all the people that don't go to hospital and died at home due to the expense etc
You really think some basic precautions in most states and a few weeks of a harsh lockdown in one city caused 20k+ excess deaths? lol
I sure as hell know where i'd rather be right now and it's right here
Sweden's deaths are 6xxx on 10m population, extrapolated thats close to 200k in America and without the virus under control
If we extrapolate Australia's numbers to America it's 11k or so and with the situation basically under control now. Nearly 20x better than America and about 15x better than Sweden.
and people were only getting arrested for actually breaching lockdown rules
not for disagreeing with them on FB or w/e and obviously the lockdown isn't permanent, few wks and life back to normal to not kill a ton of people and go back to normal without any virus worries. It is not at all hard to stay at home for a few weeks and have groceries delivered when our government was putting out a proper stimulus through jobkeeper payments etc
The American response has been a nightmare of incompetence and to suggest it's been worse in Australia is beyond a joke. The country is basically functioning normally here. America is a cluster**** right now at least according to my friends who are currently in America. Australia is basically life as normal, because we did a couple lockdowns for a few weeks to get **** under control and took some precautions like quarantining between state borders/internationally etc
Well for one what kind of affect do you think shutting down all the worlds major economies has on the third world. What do you think rates of starvation are compared to lets say last year?
I know someone who passed away who most likely died from not going to the hospital and had heart attack probably brushed it off as indigestion. There are numerous cases of surgeries being delayed and people not getting medical treatment they normally would have got for it not been for covid.
Then there is the rise is suicide and drug addiction, domestic violence and social effects that are causing lose of life due to the lockdowns.
Extrapolating Australia to America based on population would be a bit ridiculous. You guys are kind of isolated over there on you own little island. Was Trump supposed to shutdown all the airports, United states is a global travel hub.
I am pretty impressed by Germanys numbers for example as they have been able to keep the numbers way lower than other countries while being in the middle of it all.
Story of women posting about protesting lockdown rules.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54007824
Once you have the government saying stuff like "Now is not the time to protest about anything. Because to do so is not safe," he said on Thursday.
Your headed down a real slippery slope.
Did not say US response was better than Australia said it would be impossible to do in this country as we had our own democratic politicians promoting massive protest on the streets over George Floyd.
I agree with you the response was a cluster**** already as said we got the worst of both worlds, but not sure what trump could have done better other than his garbage attitude. Warp speed now has a vaccine and hospitals did not get overwhelmed given the conditions in USA not sure what could have done differently by him