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10-31-2020 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CodythePATRIOT
California and Hawaii -4000 ish for Biden to win is still a decent return for a risk approaching 0% (assuming you bet with a reputable book).

Yeah the nation is polarised enough all of the -5000 stuff is a lock this cycle pretty much states like cali hawaii etc

even Oklahoma or w/e for Trump but i'd rather take the D locks in case of insane landslide the other way but even then OK ID etc is all safe R
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10-31-2020 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Its fine you dont need to deposit, we'll call it booked and settle after via pp/btc/whatever, my 3750 vs your 500. Holidayinthesun from this thread can vouch i've paid him much larger numbers and vice versa w no issue etc and I trust you're not gonna steal 500 bucks etc

FWIW I don't think even money is a fair price, I just want a big edge if you want to bet on it. If you want some 15% at evens, lmk, happy to do 500 or so there too if you are, or if not nevermind

I'd estimate more like 10% for the black vote for Trump he's increased his support slightly w male black voters and will get low double digits w black men but will still poll like 1% with female black voters. I wouldn't take the over til like 8% though

I consider our 20% +750 prop booked unless you specifically say otherwise in the next 24 hours from the above post, good luck!
Agreed booked. This year I’ve begun to take hints and tells more at face value. So when CNN says they are worried about the black vote going for Trump, then they REALLY are going for Trump. Guess we’ll see.
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10-31-2020 , 05:19 AM
Yep we'll see, glgl

Side not not quite related to thread but 2/2 for my politics bets today in my state election in Aus

Still counting but w 20% in it's super clear its a landslide for the side I bet and in the house of reps seat I took for them to win

Much smaller bets than the US election though
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10-31-2020 , 06:09 AM
Points in favor for Trump.

1. Even with Covid, 55% of Americans think they are better of economically than they were 4 years ago. And 54% of Americans approve of Trump when it comes to the economy. (Sep 2020, Gallup)

2. Biden is not a strong candidate. He's not a great public speaker, prone to gaffes, and its to argue hes on the decline. Again, Gallup has Biden with a -4 favorability rating.

3. Trump has a path to victory via FL and PN.

Florida 1 - Polling underestimated Republicans in 2016, and again in the 2018 midterms. The current polls have even a smaller edge for Biden this time around, and its not difficult to believe Trump is favored there. Pollsters do still seem to have difficulty in FL, particularly with a large Cuban and Venezuelan population that is 58% republican and continues to get more red.

Florida 2 - Turnout in FL is typically higher than the national average, so there is less ground for the Dems to make up.

PN - Recent rioting in Philly
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10-31-2020 , 08:01 AM
Polling does not have Trump closer than 2016, that is factually incorrect

He could still win, but he is further behind than he was against Clinton a couple days out after the Comey letter etc

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10-31-2020 , 08:34 AM
Donald Trump is running against the Virus and it appears that the Virus is winning.
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10-31-2020 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by whb
Agreed booked. This year I’ve begun to take hints and tells more at face value. So when CNN says they are worried about the black vote going for Trump, then they REALLY are going for Trump. Guess we’ll see.
It’s odd for somebody who dosent take polls as credible but takes CNN saying they’re worried African Americans are voting for trump.

Many news outlets are going to want this to be a horse race so viewers turn in.
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10-31-2020 , 09:53 AM
Is there any compelling reason as to why Lindsey Graham at -386 is a bad price? Holds the senate in a highly Republican state which hasn't flipped since 1992. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee which is more esteemed than an average senator, and leading significantly in all the polls that the dems in this thread weigh on so heavily with Biden. I dunno, I bet the max for the hell of it bc it seemed good and bookmaker laughed at me and didn't move the line.
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10-31-2020 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
Polling does not have Trump closer than 2016, that is factually incorrect

He could still win, but he is further behind than he was against Clinton a couple days out after the Comey letter etc
Dunno who you are responding to, but I was comparing the polls of the 2018 midterms to the current polls in Florida.
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10-31-2020 , 10:40 AM
He should win but -386 is meh given he's widely hated on both sides, Lou Dobbs told his base on Fox News not to vote for him and the polling has been close

I fully expect Graham to win, but if we see the Trump loses GA, IA, etc type scenario its close and if we get to the Trump loses TX scenario where SC is only Trump +4 or whatever Graham will lose

Don't get me wrong I fully expect Graham to win, but not lining up to bet him at -386 price seems about right - if there's a polling error in Biden's favour Graham loses a ton etc obv that's usually not the case but it's within the realms of possible

https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp20...-carolina.html

I expect Graham wins 52-48 or something on average but i'm not sure it's worthy of -386
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10-31-2020 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingnite
Dunno who you are responding to, but I was comparing the polls of the 2018 midterms to the current polls in Florida.
Hard to compare midterms to presidential cycles such a hugely diff portion of the electorate, less low info voters, far lower turnout even in high turnout midterms like 2018 etc

2016 would probably be a better comparison point I would assume

I'd figure Rs exceed expectations in Fl more often than not due to controlling the governorship etc in the event it's close + last couple cycles polls missed in Rs favour, but it's far from guaranteed especially given the overall high turnout levels this cycle
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10-31-2020 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33
Is there any compelling reason as to why Lindsey Graham at -386 is a bad price? Holds the senate in a highly Republican state which hasn't flipped since 1992. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee which is more esteemed than an average senator, and leading significantly in all the polls that the dems in this thread weigh on so heavily with Biden. I dunno, I bet the max for the hell of it bc it seemed good and bookmaker laughed at me and didn't move the line.
538 has Graham winning 77%, which is basically -386.

Graham's approval rating in SC is lower than Trump's. Harrison has raised $86m, inc a record $57m in the final quarter.
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10-31-2020 , 10:58 AM
Graham is facing a lot of pushback from the right, I can't see a lot of trump voters choosing to vote for Harrison. Maybe the constitution party candidate can take a few % (Smart play by Harrison to push for it). But ultimately, Trump will probably win SC by 8-10 points. That's a lot of room to make up in an inelastic state that doesn't do a lot of ticket splitting.
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10-31-2020 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
I'd estimate more like 10% for the black vote for Trump he's increased his support slightly w male black voters and will get low double digits w black men but will still poll like 1% with female black voters. I wouldn't take the over til like 8% though
When I weighed in earlier, the data I found showed that Trump's support among black women was 4%, and closer to 15% for men. But black women voted in far greater numbers than men. To reach 15% overall, he needs a big surge in black women, or a veritable tidal wave of black men to flood towards the candidate who, in the last 4 years, has called black athletes protesting police brutality against black people "sons of bitches." Call me crazy but that seems like a pretty big lift.
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10-31-2020 , 11:17 AM
Honestly I hope either Biden wins and I lose my bet, or Trump absolutely crushes EVERYONE who bet against him. Literally winning Cali, Massachusetts, Colorado, states he was supposed to have no chance in. Winning electoral college by a 300 vote MARGIN, crushing that guy who was hammering NO at -1200, etc. Let's just have a bloodbath either way, boys.

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Seems perfectly reasonable. If Trump defends Texas, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio, though, I'll add that the election will be close enough that shenanigans with the electoral college could result in Trump being re-inaugurated, despite finishing with fewer than 270 electoral votes. I'm still interested to hear from other Trump bettors on how they'll feel about their bets being graded as losers if news media declares Biden won. The prospect freaked me enough to put wagers into action in FL, OH, GA, NC and TX. I could wind up close to even if Biden wins a tight race, at least.
I'd still be super happy, as gas prices won't go to $8 a gallon for my family, and the world will have some semblance of security at least.

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Originally Posted by SwoopAE
People always call it compulsory voting but it's compulsory attendance to vote, once your name is marked off you can throw your ballot in the trash if you want but almost everyone votes - there's typically a free sausage sizzle at the polling booth too. $133 fine (used to be smaller) for those who don't show but its usually waived if you have a legit excuse. Turnout ends up 90something % with 90%ish of ballots formal usually and as a result our political system functions pretty well, obv theres the usual corruption etc but a lot less of it than America
Right, the notoriously corrupt country of....*squints* America.

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10-31-2020 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by gmcarroll33
Is there any compelling reason as to why Lindsey Graham at -386 is a bad price? Holds the senate in a highly Republican state which hasn't flipped since 1992. Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee which is more esteemed than an average senator, and leading significantly in all the polls that the dems in this thread weigh on so heavily with Biden. I dunno, I bet the max for the hell of it bc it seemed good and bookmaker laughed at me and didn't move the line.
I think you're getting it in good at that price. I'd guess Harrison pulls the upset under 10% of the time. Maybe you lose if every Republican waited until Tuesday to vote and, on that very day, a hurricane slammed the state. And even then it'd be close.

Good luck.
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10-31-2020 , 11:49 AM
Does any bookie offer handicap bets for states? Or can anyone remember if this has previously been a thing?
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10-31-2020 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Does any bookie offer handicap bets for states? Or can anyone remember if this has previously been a thing?
I think mybookie does.
Lmk if you need a link.
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10-31-2020 , 12:32 PM
Contemplating betting on trump to take AZ. He’s ahead by .7% on realclearpolitics but slightly behind everywhere else. My friend lives in az and says there’s almost all trump signs. Thoughts? It’s +100
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10-31-2020 , 12:59 PM
what lines are available in vegas on this election? and what are limits?
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10-31-2020 , 01:17 PM
zero and zero
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10-31-2020 , 01:44 PM
So far more people have voted already in Texas than in 2016. I don't know what that bmeans. Any thoughts?
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10-31-2020 , 01:56 PM
If the polls are correct (for example, fivethirtyeight has Biden @90%), then the no-vig line would be -900, so why is it around -175? Is this a windmill slam dunk or am I missing something?
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10-31-2020 , 01:57 PM
Regarding Texas turnout, Nobody rly knows, but it’s obv not good for republicans cause more variance is bad in a state they had a stranglehold in. Don’t rly see biden winning even now, but it’s at least interesting for the dems
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10-31-2020 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackFr1day
If the polls are correct (for example, fivethirtyeight has Biden @90%), then the no-vig line would be -900, so why is it around -175? Is this a windmill slam dunk or am I missing something?
Buddy,welcome to this thread
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